Eden Hazard

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

If you want to go into the meat and bones as to why Hazard is struggling, then that's fine. We can do that. But there's that and then there's you telling him to fuck off. No amount of red herrings (this is Hazard fc not CFC???) can change that .

[Special Juan 28,141]

Hazard has given everything to the club. He doesn't deserve to be told to "fuck" off. How difficult is that to grasp? The fact you're trying to defend this shit is ridiculous.

"If he want's to fuck off then so be it" That's the harsh reality of it. The meat and bones have already been laid on the table pal, you have claimed he was brilliant for the last two seasons but put this dip in form down to tiredness, been kicked and mentally tired, yet you also claim he's done more than his fair share. We can flip this on it's head and claim the same with Ivanovic, brilliant in the past, solid and scored vital goals and been part of our winning success. But let's talk about the now, let's talk about the short fallings of these players, that in parts of all done their bit for this club, but are they exempt from criticism? No chance. In your words 'He has given everything to this club' So has Ivanovic, but if Ivanovic want's to fuck off then so be it.

In another context, this isn't Ivanovic FC, this is Chelsea FC. Criticism isn't a jail sentence, it's merely part and parcel of everything that happens in the world, and football too.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

The way he's been playing this season, he'd be lucky to be playing in 'sunny' Sunderland!

yeah right. PSG has no problem shelling £50m on the much inferior and older Di Maria last season. Hazard would easily be the hottest commodity on the market if available.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

I do think he's both mentally and physically burnt out. Carrying Mourinho's Chelsea for 2 straight years has definitely done a number on him. A change of scenery in a less volatile environment like Chelsea would probably do him the world of good. Playing a style of football which is the very antithesis of your style of play or personal philosophy would drain anyone.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

I do think he's both mentally and physically burnt out. Carrying Mourinho's Chelsea for 2 straight years has definitely done a number on him. A change of scenery in a less volatile environment like Chelsea would probably do him the world of good. Playing a style of football which is the very antithesis of your style of play or personal philosophy would drain anyone.

Fabregas sucks now but he did almost break the assist record for the league last season.

Hazard has hardly been doing it alone.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

I do think he's both mentally and physically burnt out. Carrying Mourinho's Chelsea for 2 straight years has definitely done a number on him. A change of scenery in a less volatile environment like Chelsea would probably do him the world of good. Playing a style of football which is the very antithesis of your style of play or personal philosophy would drain anyone.

Are you for real? The whole team last season contributed one way or another. It was the whole front 6 in the first half, scoring/assisting like mad, and then the back 5 held us together for the remainder after we stopped scoring so many. Sure, Hazard scored some goals and secured us many 3 points but if we had the Man City back 4 last year we would not have won the league.

Hazard is replaceable. Nobody (nobody) wants to see him go - but Chelsea FC would not end if he were to go.

[Spike 12,049]

You'd be surprised at the high amount of people that don't think Hazard is all that he is hyped up to be. I've spoken to many that just don't care for Hazard or believe he would even make the cut at Real or Barca.

[Weckerz 3,781]

You'd be surprised at the high amount of people that don't think Hazard is all that he is hyped up to be. I've spoken to many that just don't care for Hazard or believe he would even make the cut at Real or Barca.

Your gooner friends?

[Spike 12,049]

Your gooner friends?

No, impartial friends.

[Weckerz 3,781]

No, impartial friends.

Because every gooner and a lot of mancs have been on his back solely because he chose us. Did they say he's overhyped last year or now that he is down?

[Spike 12,049]

Because every gooner and a lot of mancs have been on his back solely because he chose us. Did they say he's overhyped last year or now that he is down?

Since Lille and the Cristiano and Messi comparisons.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Since Lille.

Interesting.

[Spike 12,049]

Interesting.

I don't think there is a person alive that doesn't believe Hazard is an amazing player with incredible skill sets. I do believe however a lot of people don't believe he is a 'world class' player. In my mind there is only 11 'world class' players at any given moment. A 'world class' player is the person that is absolutely the best in their position(s). Let's face the music for a time; Hazard is closer to Ribery's level than Messi's. Not that is anything to be ashamed of, Ribery at one point was one of the best wingers alive.

I think most of the backlash Hazard receives is due to this odd aura surrounding him. A lot of people stated that he was the next Ballon d'or winner and the next player to reach Cristiano's and Messi's level. I think it is becoming clear that Hazard isn't that player and he is reaping the criticism for it. I think most of the criticism is unwarranted in this scenario as people are criticising him for being hyped as something he isn't.

I don't think he is world class right now nor do I believe would he improve at Barcelona or Real Madrid. He has no reason to move to these clubs. He isn't a nailed on starter as wouldn't be able to oust people like James, Cristiano, Bale, Neymar, Suarez and Messi from their starting berths. I think that moving to either of those clubs would be a mistake.

[Weckerz 3,781]

I don't think there is a person alive that doesn't believe Hazard is an amazing player with incredible skill sets. I do believe however a lot of people don't believe he is a 'world class' player. In my mind there is only 11 'world class' players at any given moment. A 'world class' player is the person that is absolutely the best in their position(s). Let's face the music for a time; Hazard is closer to Ribery's level than Messi's. Not that is anything to be ashamed of, Ribery at one point was one of the best wingers alive.

I think most of the backlash Hazard receives is due to this odd aura surrounding him. A lot of people stated that he was the next Ballon d'or winner and the next player to reach Cristiano's and Messi's level. I think it is becoming clear that Hazard isn't that player and he is reaping the criticism for it. I think most of the criticism is unwarranted in this scenario as people are criticising him for being hyped as something he isn't.

I fully agree, although I do think he's one of the best in his position. He'd slot in seamlessly into that Real or Barca line-up, I have no doubts.

I think it's ridiculous that you have reach Messi/Ronaldo level to be regarded world-class these days, it's an anomaly that we get to witness these 2 players at the same time in football.

It's a level I too very much doubt he'll ever reach, if by that sense he's overhyped, I agree.

[DYC. 7,542]

You'd be surprised at the high amount of people that don't think Hazard is all that he is hyped up to be. I've spoken to many that just don't care for Hazard or believe he would even make the cut at Real or Barca.

The same was said about Neymar, Suarez, Bale and James. I also remember a lot of doubts when Modric joined. Squad player under Mourinho, best player behind Ronaldo under Ancelotti. Same goes for Kroos, questions were asked about what he would add to Real. No more.

You really don't know until the player makes the move. Henry joined Barca but was forced in a wide role. Talk about an upside down world, moving from a striker role to the wing in your thirties.

Zlatan, with his clear superior technical ability compared to Eto'o, was supposed to fit Barca like a glove and do a much better job than Eto'o.

Isco was the Spanish golden child. It had been too long since Real had a Spanish star up front.

(Eto'o is incredibly underrated btw. He owned that striker role.)

Messi and Ronaldo are the only untouchables in football. Every player has plenty of doubters. Messi and Ronaldo have ruined football in a way. Their previously unheard of consistency has raised the bar to an unrealistic level. When they eventually drop off, everyone else will look better.