Eden Hazard

[Henrique 9,133]

Funny reaction coming from you.

Everytime someone says a bad word about Oscar your also immediately there defending him.

So don't come in here and act all high and mighty. Your guilty of the same thing.

Yes i'm a Hazard fan AND a Chelsea fan. So when i feel someone is criticizing him wrongfully then i will react and defend him as i see fit. If you've got a problem with that then tough luck.

You must be crazy, I barely post in Oscar topic, and I dont rememer one single time when I defended Hazard.

[ChelseaChelsea 37]

I have seen that very very insulting remarks have been directed towards me, a die hard Chelsea fan, by die hard Hazard fans. Ironically, they even started questioning my loyalty just because I said two other players currently playing better than him!!

I will respond to the comments later on.

[ChelseaChelsea 37]

You must be crazy, I barely post in Oscar topic, and I dont rememer one single time when I defended Hazard.

You mean Oscar, right?

[Muzchap 8,966]

You also should shut the fuck up, and learn how to write our nationality, its not BraSilian, its BraZilians. I'm far from delusional, I've been here for quite a long time, I'm criticize everyone I believe is not playing well or on pair with the hype.

Right now I think that Hazard is not playing that well, and while I like belgian fans I get the feeling many of them joined the forum to support Hazard. When started to follow Chelsea, there was no brazilian playing here, and by the time I joined this forum there were only Alex and Beletti.

You should respect a TC Legend, dude.

In his defence, some countries spell it as Brasil whilst in England it's always been Brazil...

Like Vienna and Wien.... Vienna to non German speakers and Wien to German speakers.

Think you were singled out unnecessarily tho

That's what happens when you're a TC legend

[Henrique 9,133]

You mean Oscar, right?

right.

[manpe 10,861]

@Henrique, your avatar is cool as hell

[RamiCFC9 258]

Yes indeed Reus and Willian are playing better right now, but patience ! I would pick Hazard over them both any day of the week.RDM's deep defending was very dire for Hazard and I fully understand him, now let's see how we'll do under Rafa.RDM's tactics needed players that are clinical and that imo comes with maturing (Drogba).I don't expect at the age of 21 Hazard to be as clinical its virtually impossible.Look at Shakhtar and Dortmund, they create far more chances per game compred to us, if Hazard was in one of these teams, god help.

[Chelsea? 892]

That's not what i said.

"He's 21. In his first season at a new club, new country, new league, new system, new language.

In 12 games he's scored 3 times, assisted 5, gave 27 keypasses, won 2 penalties and should have had a couple more.

That's not bad for a 21 y old in his first season PL."

What i meant with that is that when someone criticises Hazard it should be taken into consideration that he's 21 and in his first season. I posted the stats to proof that while he isn't having the best of games lately he was still important and productive in the games he's played.

I then gave examples of Hazard being important in games this season as "ChelseaChelsea" said he still had to come out at the times we needed him.

"He's yet to come at times when we need him? Did you like miss the beginning of the season where he won us the first games ?

Or his assist against Tottenham for Mata which gave us the lead ? Or his cool penalty and his assist against Man united in the league cup ? In 13 games(12 PL+1 LC) he's played a major role in 5 of them."

And then i responded to "ChelseaChelsea" saying Hazard missed 3 big chances. While he did indeed miss 3 big chances i made the argument that 2 of them were saved and wit another the ball bounced just before he made contact.

"The 3 missed chances: The first the goalkeeper saves well. Hazard had to take it with his left foot. The second the ball bounces just before he hit it. The third Buffon gets lucky he deflectes it with the inside of his heel."

The remarks about Willian and Reus playing better are imo just stupid. With that he implied that we better had gone for them.

At the moment i could name a bunch of players that are playing better then our players atm. but that's just stupid. Every player has got a run of bad form. (especially a young player who's playing his first season in another team and another league) To then make comments about how it would be better to buy player "A" or "B" because they're playing better at the moment is just plain retarded and simply uncalled for.

All the arguments i posted are valid ones. Everyone has the right to an opinion but i have the right aswell to disagree with them aslong as i post arguments to why i disagree with them. I have done that with my post.

perfect logic. I thought I was gonna get a FT9 type responds. Lol. Eden has done pretty good for a 21 year old. U shouldn't have to be Chelsea's 2nd best player on your first month but he's done a pretty good job at it.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

Rather have Hazard than all the other drab other clubs have. Should we get Downing instead?

He's a fantastic footballer.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Rather have Hazard than all the other drab other clubs have. Should we get Downing instead?

He's a fantastic footballer.

Would love to have whatever your on, it sounds good..

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Would love to have whatever your on, it sounds good..

He's being sarcastic...

[ChelseaChelsea 37]

@ChelseaChelsea Fuck off. I can't even begin to tell you how much you pissed me off.

Very bad behaviour. I expect better from next time.

He's 21. In his first season at a new club, new country, new league, new system, new language.

In 12 games he's scored 3 times, assisted 5, gave 27 keypasses, won 2 penalties and should have had a couple more.

That's not bad for a 21 y old in his first season PL.

You contradict yourself. If he was having so much problem with new club, new country, new league, new system, new language, he would not make such a good start. And stats does not give the complete picture of his form so far. Having three assists against weaker teams in one match and then almost invisible in many other matches is not portrayed in stats. Oscar, Michu are also at a new club, new country, new league, new system, new language

And I never said he is playing very poorly for Chelsea. His performances are not so good either.

He's yet to come at times when we need him? Did you like miss the beginning of the season where he won us the first games ?

Or his assist against Tottenham for Mata which gave us the lead ? Or his cool penalty and his assist against Man united in the league cup ?

That's what I am saying. He should try to use his skills more against big team opponents. I thank him for his assists against Spurs and Man Utd. He should have tried to help his team more in the UCL like Oscar, Moses have done. And penalty takers are generally the favourites against Goalkeepers.

In 13 games(12 PL+1 LC) he's played a major role in 5 of them.

You have skillfully avoided his UCl record. We are in terrible position in UCl. We needed at least one match winning performance from him

The 3 missed chances: The first the goalkeeper saves well. Hazard had to take it with his left foot. The second the ball bounces just before he hit it. The third Buffon gets lucky he deflectes it with the inside of his heel.

For first, he should not have given the GK chance to save. Professional players should be able to hit with both foot. For second, he should have applied better technique. I have seen many players scoring those. For third, again, he should not have given Buffon the chance. I am not saying he should have finished all of them. At least one of them especially the one in Turin.

Willian and Reus playing a lot better ? Well go support Shaktar or Dortmund then.

Sorry to say. I am not like you. I support Chelsea just for sake of Chelsea. I will support Shakthar against Juventus though. And presence Wilian has got nothing to do with my decision .

[kellzfresh 7,229]

He's being sarcastic...

Lol....

Topic change was needed from the hazard bashin though

[kellzfresh 7,229]

He's lost form because he's a little exausted. Coming from a slower tempo league to the premier league is never easy anyways. I thinks he's done well in my opinion.

[Stingray 9,441]

@chelseachelsea

Enough with the fighting I say. Arguments like 'i am not like you. I support Chelsea just for the sake of chelsea' is playing the man, not the ball. This is an ad hominem argument and should be dimissed as invalid and not to the point.

Furthermore: you have every right to give criticism to a player, bu you are more than just doing that.

Hazard is doing ok, even though he could (and will - I believe) do better. Give the guy a chance for fucks sake before writing him off and turning this thread into a Hazard bashing session.

Also, you really ooze Chelsea supportership when your Avatar is an equally aggressive dismissal of one of our players (disregarding his performance).

So, mister 'I supporter Chelsea for Chelsea while bahing their player', I would love to say with all my heart and for the first and hopeully last time on this forum: go stick your head up the shithole where it belongs - your ass.

Ps: you are one too btw for making this thread so annoying to read.

[ResteZen17 0]

I think that is one reason that zenden has been brought in. Apparently he speaks 5 languages which is very useful to have round a diverse dressing room. I don't know if that includes french but you would think so...

Yes he speaks french fluently ... So this should help Eden to undersand Benitez ;-)

I have found an interview in french :

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv2ik5_om-zenden-marseille-c-est-le-feu_sport

[ChelseaChelsea 37]

@chelseachelsea

Enough with the fighting I say. Arguments like 'i am not like you. I support Chelsea just for the sake of chelsea' is playing the man, not the ball. This is an ad hominem argument and should be dimissed as invalid and not to the point.

I will use this part for later part of your post.

Furthermore: you have every right to give criticism to a player, bu you are more than just doing that.

Hazard is doing ok, even though he could (and will - I believe) do better. Give the guy a chance for fucks sake before writing him off and turning this thread into a Hazard bashing session.

I never said that he is playing very poorly. I was just saying he should have been more clinical and helped us more. And I never said that he can not improve and/or I do not want to give him a chance.

Also, you really ooze Chelsea supportership when your Avatar is an equally aggressive dismissal of one of our players (disregarding his performance).

Club comes before player. If a defender does not want to defend in so many matches, he deserves even harsher comment.

So, mister 'I supporter Chelsea for Chelsea while bahing their player', I would love to say with all my heart and for the first and hopeully last time on this forum: go stick your head up the shithole where it belongs - your ass.

Ps: you are one too btw for making this thread so annoying to read.

Look at your first part of the comment. Use your own advice. This is an ad hominem argument and should be dimissed as invalid and not to the point.

[Stingray 9,441]

I will use this part for later part of your post.

I never said that he is playing very poorly. I was just saying he should have been more clinical and helped us more. And I never said that he can not improve and/or I do not want to give him a chance.

Club comes before player. If a defender does not want to defend in so many matches, he deserves even harsher comment.

Look at your first part of the comment. Use your own advice. This is an ad hominem argument and should be dimissed as invalid and not to the point.

Ow, so when I play the rules count, and when you play they don't? The tennis net is up when I serve and goes down when it's your turn?

That double standard will serve you well, I guess.

Bye bye. I strongly suspect you have alterior motives for going at Hazard.