Eden Hazard

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Hazard needs to improve his finishing. It's quite annoying how he misses good chances.

[klopfzeichen 78]

This guy isn't showing enough substance IMO. To many tricks that don't come to something.

[zolayes 14,489]

Hazard was a 32m signing but right now he is still a player for the future, along with Oscar they are promissing players, but unproven in a higher stage. The problem is they believed both were ready to lead this team.

not only they believed it ,many on here thought they would be an instant success

[Land 331]

They actually were an instant success,but people expect them to perform at a high level consistently even though thats tough when you are 21.Oscar just came to Europe for example.About the price tag, thats based on potential.Xavi and iniesta were nobodies at 21, hazard was huge in ligue 1 and Oscar is Brazil's 10 while tearing CL apart.Im a bit concerned about Mata though, I expected him to improve his consistency this season.He ghosts too much

[communicate 2,703]

They actually were an instant success,but people expect them to perform at a high level consistently even though thats tough when you are 21.Oscar just came to Europe for example.About the price tag, thats based on potential.Xavi and iniesta were nobodies at 21, hazard was huge in ligue 1 and Oscar is Brazil's 10 while tearing CL apart.Im a bit concerned about Mata though, I expected him to improve his consistency this season.He ghosts too much

Nah mata was also nowhere in last year final because his game is about possesion. We were completely outplayed by juve so he does not have chance to assert his game.

So there is nothing to be worried about mata

[communicate 2,703]

Hazard needs to improve his finishing. It's quite annoying how he misses good chances.

Today he missed only one chance, that can happen to anyone.

[communicate 2,703]

Hazard was a 32m signing but right now he is still a player for the future, along with Oscar they are promissing players, but unproven in a higher stage. The problem is they believed both were ready to lead this team.

I think they are both for now and the future. They are already fantastic players but they need possession to play their games, against Juve where we were outplayed practically everywhere, they are not the same player

[Henrique 9,133]

not only they believed it ,many on here thought they would be an instant success

There were some weird formations where even Marin was on the starting XI team, instead of Ramires. Its a shame that some people here believed Lampard was no longer needed, or that Ramires should sit on the bench for unproven u21 guys.

[Henrique 9,133]

They actually were an instant success,but people expect them to perform at a high level consistently even though thats tough when you are 21.Oscar just came to Europe for example.About the price tag, thats based on potential.Xavi and iniesta were nobodies at 21, hazard was huge in ligue 1 and Oscar is Brazil's 10 while tearing CL apart.Im a bit concerned about Mata though, I expected him to improve his consistency this season.He ghosts too much

It depends what you call success. About Xavi and Iniesta, as you said they were nobodies. What is hapenning with Chelsea, is the same thing hapenning you brazilian national team. They got rid of the old players, and then suddenly Neymar, only 19 years old then, became the man. The other players that people were talking about were Ganso, Lucas and now Oscar, all of them are u23 guys.

They discovered that despite the young talent, those guys lacked experience. Brazil lost all big matches, and now they are asking Kaká again, and the talk is that Ronaldinho should return as well.

About Hazard, yes, he gave some assists, he has some good games, but nothing close to the hype around him before he joined. There were talk about him being our captain, and this kind of weird thing.

[Reddish-Blue 2,370]

It depends what you call success. About Xavi and Iniesta, as you said they were nobodies. What is hapenning with Chelsea, is the same thing hapenning you brazilian national team. They got rid of the old players, and then suddenly Neymar, only 19 years old then, became the man. The other players that people were talking about were Ganso, Lucas and now Oscar, all of them are u23 guys.

They discovered that despite the young talent, those guys lacked experience. Brazil lost all big matches, and now they are asking Kaká again, and the talk is that Ronaldinho should return as well.

About Hazard, yes, he gave some assists, he has some good games, but nothing close to the hype around him before he joined. There were talk about him being our captain, and this kind of weird thing.

I think Chelsea are suffering from a culture shock in the first team.

I mean we've been used to our experienced players (Lamps, Drogba, JT, Essien) coming up with outstanding performances in big matches for so many years...and then suddenly, this season, we have no leadership, no big game experience left on the pitch.

Hazard and Oscar should become 2 awesome players in the next 3-5 years but at the moment, they are still learning the team's tactics and they are still getting used to each others style of play.

You can't just let go of all your experienced players and suddenly expect the young players to step up in big matches. Look at Man United, Fergie still uses Giggs, Scholes in big games because he knows experienced players can keep coolheads in pressurised situations and thus, they can help the youngsters stay calm throughout the match.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Today he missed only one chance, that can happen to anyone.

I was talking over the course of the season. In fact all of the 3 Amigos need to work on their finishing.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

His movement was good for a false 9, but for a player to play false (personally I never liked this idea and hope we don't use it again) he has to have better finishing. Not saying in any way that it's his that the tactics didn't work, of course.

[Jack Uzzi 54]

Don't think he's the man for this role. Think Chelsea was a bit too stretched and when not having a lot of ball possession, there's no point in playing without a striker. Yesterday I believe Torres was actually necessary, however bad his form may be.

[Jase 43,479]

If we are to judge him on his effectiveness playing as a 'False 9', we need to have him being tried there several more times before effectively passing judgment on him. Yesterday was only the first time we played him there and it was never gonna be an instant success immediately. Additionally, it was always gonna be tough against Juventus 3 CBs and 3 physical ones at that! Even if Hazard drops deep and float around elsewhere, 1 CB could still man mark and follow him around with Juventus then still having 2 spare men to cover the space vacated by that CB and prevent any of our runners to get clean through on goal.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

If we are to judge him on his effectiveness playing as a 'False 9', we need to have him being tried there several more times before effectively passing judgment on him. Yesterday was only the first time we played him there and it was never gonna be an instant success immediately. Additionally, it was always gonna be tough against Juventus 3 CBs and 3 physical ones at that! Even if Hazard drops deep and float around elsewhere, 1 CB could still man mark and follow him around with Juventus then still having 2 spare men to cover the space vacated by that CB and prevent any of our runners to get clean through on goal.

I agree. I think It could work given the right guidance and if he works on his shooting.

The way we played did make it difficult for a false 9 to work. We didn't retain possesion enough. The amount of times Hazard received a proper ball last night could be counted on 1 hand.

About his finishing. He's just not used to getting into goalscoring positions. At Lille he was always the player that gave the assist or pre assist. Rarely was he the one who got on the end of chances because there just wasn't anyone good enough in his team to regulary put him in goalscoring positions.

Don't worry his finishing will improve as he gets into these positions more and more. Imo experience plays a big factor.

[mediator 2,026]

Don't forget that yesterday the whole team was shit. Mata was invisible and Azpi isn't a RW.

I won't blame him, he tried along with oscar, the rest was sleeping

[Peppi85 110]

I agree. I think It could work given the right guidance and if he works on his shooting.

The way we played did make it difficult for a false 9 to work. We didn't retain possesion enough. The amount of times Hazard received a proper ball last night could be counted on 1 hand.

About his finishing. He's just not used to getting into goalscoring positions. At Lille he was always the player that gave the assist or pre assist. Rarely was he the one who got on the end of chances because there just wasn't anyone good enough in his team to regulary put him in goalscoring positions.

Don't worry his finishing will improve as he gets into these positions more and more. Imo experience plays a big factor.

He made 12 field goals last year?! When he got in front of the goal he always kept cool & finished...

He just had some bad luck with his finishing lately! How lucky was Buffon yesterday? Lets be honest on this one...

Juve's goals got deviated in the goal & Hazard's ball gets deviated out of it...

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Edit : Wrong thread, sorry.