KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 To put it simply, what that QPR game showed and what we will continue to see if we play Ramires and Bertrand on the wing is that Hazard is too fluid to be tied down. He is best when drifting in from/out to the left. With Bertrand and Rambo on the wings it tied Hazard down into the Attacking Midfield position, which although he likes playing, he needs more creative freedom to roam. Rambo and Bertrand obviously won't switch wings, drift around and interchange as they are rigid and functional wingers. Hazard looks more threatning when he is roaming around as his movement is hard to track. He can also be great on the wings. Anyone seeing the trend here? When Hazard is asked to play Solely as an AM or winger he isn't quite as good. When he is allowed the freedom to do both he can be jaw droppingly brilliant. Much like how Oscar drifts around central midfield, Eden drifts around the final third in order to get amongst the action or find different ways and angles of attack. Which defenders to get at. (Do not tie him down, but rather, release the Kraken!)This is why to get the best out of Hazard, 2, even 3 attacking players need to be playing together. It would be desirable if we had a threatning Striker with great movement. I don't think Torres quite brings that so if we got a Cavani/Falcao it would help our attacking players like Hazard quite a lot. At the beginning of the season we were talking about a Hazard and Mata partnership and I think we are realising how important they will both be to one another in order to play at their best. With Oscar (especially), Marin or Moses it would help even more. The fluid movement will make it almost impossible to mark them and Hazard out of the game. chelseathebest, Stingray and RamiCFC9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 On this one, I will agree with you. His finishing is not his strongest point but I think he will improve.He will be in more situations like that here than at Lille.From what i've seen, he seems to enjoy himself a lot more here with the faster pace of the game than at Lille where they would play many passes backwards or between the defenders and at times would get bored by it, or making runs in the intervals and not receiving passes because the other players would not read the play quickly. At Lille he would have to overdo things many times for things to happen on the pitch.Well sometimes we can forget just how young Hazard is, he's still 21, it's amazing how young he is and how good he is for his age. And then we are going on about Sturridge's potential and he's 2 years older, still love Sturridge though and i think they will be two awesome players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 You might think this is odd, but i thought this was Hazard best game for us so far. He was class every time he got the ball, should've had a penalty but never mind. Besides his finishing he was awesome, anyone see when he took on about two players then played Torres through?, he had THREE PLAYERS ON HIM, THREE!. So Torres manage to run into space, but unlucky for him i think the other centre back, not Anton, covered Torres. Great play from Hazard though. And he was doing this all game. CHOULO19, mediator and Stingray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseathebest 150 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 At the beginning of the season we were talking about a Hazard and Mata partnership and I think we are realising how important they will both be to one another in order to play at their best. With Oscar (especially), Marin or Moses it would help even more. The fluid movement will make it almost impossible to mark them and Hazard out of the game.True. Barcelona will be pussy smoke for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 You might think this is odd, but i thought this was Hazard best game for us so far. He was class every time he got the ball, should've had a penalty but never mind. Besides his finishing he was awesome, anyone see when he took on about two players then played Torres through?, he had THREE PLAYERS ON HIM, THREE!. So Torres manage to run into space, but unlucky for him i think the other centre back, not Anton, covered Torres. Great play from Hazard though. And he was doing this all game.I've seen only the first 70 minutes of the game but I agree with you.I thought he was moving a lot more and defensively especially in the first half, I thought he was closing well the passing lane to their defensive midfielder.I think that he's just more fit than in the beginning of the season, he lost some fat and can move longer.When you look at the end of the youtube video when he is shirtless, he seemed to have lost some pounds.In the first games, he had good moments but alo quite sloppy passes and he was standing still a lot more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I've seen only the first 70 minutes of the game but I agree with you.I thought he was moving a lot more and defensively especially in the first half, I thought he was closing well the passing lane to their defensive midfielder.I think that he's just more fit than in the beginning of the season, he lost some fat and can move longer.When you look at the end of the youtube video when he is shirtless, he seemed to have lost some pounds.In the first games, he had good moments but alo quite sloppy passes and he was standing still a lot more often.The one thing what really impressed me with Hazard since first coming here, is his link up play. Seems to have a great eye for a one two pass what are so quick and cause defenders problems. If we build chemistry over a few seasons with the likes of Mata, Oscar and Hazard, the types of fast, quick small passes they could do would just be so threatening for other teams.Like Barcelona with Xavi, Messi and Iniesta, that triangle is one of the best triangles in world football, they all have that little link up play and one twos what can end up beating about 4 players once every 2 minutes. Really hard to play against.But what impressed me with Hazard was his creativity in last game, i think he could be better in that area, he's a good passer in technical terms. But doesn't seem to have the eye to pick one out, where last game he did. So it's nice to see, It's good to add more to your game and be much more dangerous. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Well, I'm glad that you compare him to the likes of Iniesta.As one of my first post on this topic was to say that I hated the press comparing him to Messi.As for me he was more like an Iniesta, for his link-up play and the ability to create space for others as he often moves players with him.And I don't blame you if you could get a wrong impression watching the last game of Lille as they were not playing very good, Hazard scored quite a lot in the last games for them but he was playing behind the striker and they were using him for his pace.Their team was tired, were sitting deep and would only count on the pace of Hazard in counter-attacks. He was not as involved in their play.They were playing a lot better in the beginning of the season and without silly errors and more firepower upfront, they could have been easily in first place in the first half of the season.He was pulling the strings in the midfield then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Lille's president Michel Seydoux said this today on L'Equipe...http://www.sport360.com/article/chelseas-eden-hazard-destined-barcelona-says-lille-chief"Hazard will end his career at Barcelona," he said. "At one point he, and nobody else, will succeed Lionel Messi. Hazard is simply a phenomenon." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 To put it simply, what that QPR game showed and what we will continue to see if we play Ramires and Bertrand on the wing is that Hazard is too fluid to be tied down. He is best when drifting in from/out to the left.With Bertrand and Rambo on the wings it tied Hazard down into the Attacking Midfield position, which although he likes playing, he needs more creative freedom to roam. Rambo and Bertrand obviously won't switch wings, drift around and interchange as they are rigid and functional wingers.Hazard looks more threatning when he is roaming around as his movement is hard to track. He can also be great on the wings. Anyone seeing the trend here? When Hazard is asked to play Solely as an AM or winger he isn't quite as good. When he is allowed the freedom to do both he can be jaw droppingly brilliant. Much like how Oscar drifts around central midfield, Eden drifts around the final third in order to get amongst the action or find different ways and angles of attack. Which defenders to get at. (Do not tie him down, but rather, release the Kraken!)This is why to get the best out of Hazard, 2, even 3 attacking players need to be playing together. It would be desirable if we had a threatning Striker with great movement. I don't think Torres quite brings that so if we got a Cavani/Falcao it would help our attacking players like Hazard quite a lot.At the beginning of the season we were talking about a Hazard and Mata partnership and I think we are realising how important they will both be to one another in order to play at their best. With Oscar (especially), Marin or Moses it would help even more. The fluid movement will make it almost impossible to mark them and Hazard out of the game.Well. I actually love everything about this comment, so much. Hole in one :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I wish people that he actually listens to (I mean his ex-coaches and peers) would stop praising him so much. Too often have I seen this, too often have I seen this kind of stuff backfire eventually. He needs to keep his feet down, and these kind of comments don't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I wish people that he actually listens to (I mean his ex-coaches and peers) would stop praising him so much. Too often have I seen this, too often have I seen this kind of stuff backfire eventually. He needs to keep his feet down, and these kind of comments don't help.Understand what you mean but he's been getting praise like that since he was 16y old and performed well in the u17 tournament for Belgium. He's already used to it so i wouldn't worry to much about it. He's very level head and he handles pressure very well. Thats actually 1 of the reasons why i have no doubts he will succeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Guess this is what @manpe, wanted to see.http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/912469-chelsea-boss-roberto-di-matteo-plays-down-media-hype-over-eden-hazardHazard, a £32 million signing from Lille during the summer, has already established himself as one of the most exciting attacking players in the country, scoring once and picking up six assists in his four matches so far.The 21-year-old is now preparing to show his best on the European stage, as Chelsea kick off the defence of their Champions League title with a group stage opener against Italian champions Juventus this evening.However, despite admitting that the impressive Belgian will play a key part in his side, Chelsea boss Di Matteo is angry at the media for praising the player and increasing the expectations on his young shoulders:'The media play a major role in the glorification of Hazard,' Di Matteo told reporters.'Let the boy just play and do not write about him. He needs to concentrate on his game.'The comments will do little to quell the hype over Hazard, especially after Di Matteo himself suggested the Belgian winger could replicate the success of Blues great Gianfranco Zola last month:'Gianfranco was a wonderful talent, an artist I would say. Eden can become an artist as well,' Di Matteo told Sky.Hyped or not, Hazard will start on the left of an attack minded midfield for Chelsea this evening, with Juan Mata shaking off a knock to occupy the opposite flank. manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hazard on the left, Mata on the opposite flank... sounds like a 4-3-3 lineup.Guess then could have something like ramires - mikel - lampard on the midfield.That looks good to me^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Guess this is what @manpe, wanted to see.http://www.metro.co....ver-eden-hazardRobbie is a hero We think alike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hazard on the left, Mata on the opposite flank... sounds like a 4-3-3 lineup.Guess then could have something like ramires - mikel - lampard on the midfield.That looks good to me^^I was confused by that. It was not RDM who said that Hazard would start on the left wing though, rather the writer from Metro. Given that he said that Mata was injured rather than being rested, it's possible he just doesn't know what he's talking about. I'd be fine with that 4-3-3 as well but my worry is that Hazard and Mata both like to drift to the middle which would leave our wings very vulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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