Eden Hazard

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

11 hours ago, MCM4PR3Z said:

What do you mean?

De Bruyne in the Premier League:

17-18: 14 assists and counting

16-17: 21 assists

De Bruyne in the Bundes Liga:

14-15: 21 assists

Who mentioned De Bruyne are you blind? De Bruyne takes set pieces for his team which factors into assists. Players like Lampard, Beckham, Leighton Baines and Gerrard had more assists than the likes of Zidane, Xavi, Iniesta, Silva and Pirlo but I don't believe they're more creative players, they were great set piece takers and good playmakers but they weren't great playmakers like those other names.

When Hazard was given the set piece duties for Lille his assists numbers blew up. I don't like these sort of debates because its me arguing with people who don't know much about the game and its a waste of time. 

[Tomo 21,733]

26 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

We're at a point where people are just defending him regardless of his lack of contribution in umpteenth games that have a notable significance to others. I'd loved to see those two stats in regards to our games against Barcelona, City, Utd, Arsenal & Tottenham. These are the games where he is supposed to be showing the drastic difference in class amongst our squad, let alone the best in European football.

Getting tired of hearing the same things from certain individuals about him deserving better, too good for the club or being exempt from criticism.

No one's saying he's excempt from criticism, but when he's getting criticised for not doing enough after games he created more chances than the rest of the team put together and he's getting talked about like he's SWP then it gets to beyond ridiculous territotry.

Like i have already said no other club in the world seem so intent on playing down their best players like this.

[LAM09 6,777]

No one's saying he's excempt from criticism, but when he's getting criticised for not doing enough after games he created more chances than the rest of the team put together and he's getting talked about like he's SWP then it gets to beyond ridiculous territotry.
Like i have already said no other club in the world seem so intent on playing down their best players like this.

Read my reply above about those stats in significant games and I'll rethink my argument. 45 chances created against WBA & 5 over two legs against Barca would emphasize my point even more (figuratively speaking).

I presume you never heard Madrid fans slate Ronaldo for his poor end to 2017.

[DDA 9,691]

3 hours ago, Tomo said:

Are you saying he wasn't fantastic in those above games i mentioned? 

Yh he has been good in a handfull of games. We are talking about a player who has the ability to become the very best in the World. He should be 10/10 in every game and when having a 8-9/10 game, he should still be winning the game for us. 

[DDA 9,691]

3 hours ago, Tomo said:

No one's saying he's excempt from criticism, but when he's getting criticised for not doing enough after games he created more chances than the rest of the team put together and he's getting talked about like he's SWP then it gets to beyond ridiculous territotry.

Like i have already said no other club in the world seem so intent on playing down their best players like this.

The Madristas boo Ronaldo bro. Our criticism of Eden not doing enough to warrant the heaps of endless praise he gets from the fans is fuck all in comparison.

[Tomo 21,733]

7 minutes ago, DDA said:

Yh he has been good in a handfull of games. We are talking about a player who has the ability to become the very best in the World. He should be 10/10 in every game and when having a 8-9/10 game, he should still be winning the game for us. 

Those games in a long period is enough to disprove he's had a shit season.

6 minutes ago, DDA said:

The Madristas boo Ronaldo bro. Our criticism of Eden not doing enough to warrant the heaps of endless praise he gets from the fans is fuck all in comparison.

I forgot about Madrid, but in general the best players never divide fanbases to this extent.

[Tomo 21,733]

26 minutes ago, Mana said:

And let's not pretend he only scored 1 goal (penalty) against top 6 this season AND let's not pretend that freaking tweet is old and no longer 1st (or 2nd) place.

He scored at The Emirates again a few weeks later.

He's been good in lots of big games this season. Leti twice, Roma, United, Liverpool and he only scored in one of those games. Hazard doesn't have to score or assist to have god like games.

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

7 hours ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Who mentioned De Bruyne are you blind? De Bruyne takes set pieces for his team which factors into assists. Players like Lampard, Beckham, Leighton Baines and Gerrard had more assists than the likes of Zidane, Xavi, Iniesta, Silva and Pirlo but I don't believe they're more creative players, they were great set piece takers and good playmakers but they weren't great playmakers like those other names.

What are you talking about? When Hazard was given the set piece duties for Lille his assists numbers blew up. I don't like these sort of debates because its me arguing with people who don't know much about the game and its a waste of time. 

Then you have the same opinion as me

[Thor 2,434]

6 hours ago, Tomo said:

He scored at The Emirates again a few weeks later.

He's been good in lots of big games this season. Leti twice, Roma, United, Liverpool and he only scored in one of those games. Hazard doesn't have to score or assist to have god like games.

People just don't get this anymore. Football is becoming infested with stat nerds now instead of folks actually focusing on what is going on in the game. Iniesta and Figo are average players going by stats. Guess most would rather have Mahrez aye? 

[manpe 10,861]

57 minutes ago, Thor said:

Football is becoming infested with stat nerds now instead of folks actually focusing on what is going on in the game.

THIS! WORD!

It's a shame you can like a post only once.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

1 hour ago, Thor said:

People just don't get this anymore. Football is becoming infested with stat nerds now instead of folks actually focusing on what is going on in the game. Iniesta and Figo are average players going by stats. Guess most would rather have Mahrez aye? 

Well said mate the most stupid stat is passes completed when half of these will be back and square passes. Football is a simple game that gets totally over analyzed. The average footballer is as thick as shit but fans hang on there every word yet all they do is talk in cliches and soundbites. People think Jamie Carragher is a top pundit but look at the sort of man he is spitting at a young girl because his team lost it's pathetic.

[The Skipper 20,593]

On 02/04/2018 at 11:21 AM, DDA said:

I can unserstand people defending his ability but to defend his performances this season is madness. I guess if you feel completing 3 out of 6 backheels on the spin is an acheivement.. then yh he has been immense.

What? Let’s not introduce a false narrative just because Hazard hasn’t been on point for a few weeks... before these few weeks he was easily our best performer this season. 

Hazard is honestly the least of our problems...

[Atholy 1,293]

I just cannot understand people start critisizing the best player in our squad for many many years!! It's been since Zola that we had such a gem.

The only fact you're basing on is that he doesn't have the stats like Messi/Ronaldo AND that he should have because he should be as good as them. 

This is just ridiculous. Enjoy the fact we have a brilliant player as Hazard in our Squad as long as we can instead of whining! 

 

Time for Eden to move on! Surrounded with players of better quality, I'm pretty sure he will deliver better STATS (for those who only tend to watch this instead of in Stadium delight!!).

ps: oh yes I'm Belgian. So probably will get those BIAS remarks. But I don't think this flag is needed to see what a great player Eden is. It will always be our loss if he leaves. 

[Superblue 6,372]

17 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

What? Let’s not introduce a false narrative just because Hazard hasn’t been on point for a few weeks... before these few weeks he was easily our best performer this season. 

Hazard is honestly the least of our problems...

I don't think people consider him a 'problem' (I certainly don't) and I've said a number of times I'd be more than happy with Hazard committing long term to Chelsea and us keeping him.

But it has to be brought into question that in a period which has easily been the most important of our season with so many big games (and longer term ramifications for those results) he hasn't performed anyway near the level that he should be. That has been an issue because he is our most naturally gifted player and our most potent attacking threat when playing well. 

People are discussing stats and that's all fine and well, but I can see just watching the game that he isn't playing to his usual level. When he's playing well, he will go searching for space and the ball and will be far more direct in his general play and that hasn't been happening recently.

People aren't saying let's get rid of him like with 75% of the other players pages but I think people are simply questioning his recent performances and why there are inconsistencies to his game where he can go a stretch of games not playing very well. Unfortunately it appears on this forum that this isn't possible.

[manpe 10,861]

Calm down fellas, next time he gets back to form everybody will be singing his praises again. The usual TC knee-jerk nonsense at work again.

[Fernando 6,484]

I don't care about his dip in form. 

I still want him to stay. 

Hopefully Real Madrid don't want him this summer and he signs a new contract

[DDA 9,691]

4 hours ago, The Skipper said:

What? Let’s not introduce a false narrative just because Hazard hasn’t been on point for a few weeks... before these few weeks he was easily our best performer this season. 

Hazard is honestly the least of our problems...

Yea listen, Eden is by far our best player and I appreciate every gane we see him wearing our colours. All I am getting at, is that he isn't performing as well as he has done in the past in my opinion and has alot more to do before he can be considered top 5 in the World.

[Special Juan 27,439]

I'd be more inclined to argue the point about him being our best player to be honest. Kante is both more consistent and produces more expected performances than Hazard IMO, I also think Hazard has had a very middle of the road season.