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We do not deserve this guy. Being made to play with donkeys with a slow football brain and lack of technical ability. The mere fact people are slating our only creative focal from last night's game is killing me. 

 

Why I am susprised, though? We don't want James, so yeah, better replace Hazard with Berahino. Then we could really be a force. And he'd come on a free. 

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24 minutes ago, LondonsFinest said:

Being made to play with donkeys with a slow football brain and lack of technical ability

That is a valid point, but only till a certain extent IMO. It can't be used to justify of how he goes from being very good in one game to being very ineffective or quiet the next (e.g the Bournemouth and Stoke games last week). We aren't great on the technical side of things but we aren't the worst either. People criticized Gary Neville when he said but if Hazard truly wants to be one of the greats in football, then he needs to do it week in week out.

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

That is a valid point, but only till a certain extent IMO. It can't be used to justify of how he goes from being very good in one game to being very ineffective or quiet the next (e.g the Bournemouth and Stoke games last week). We aren't great on the technical side of things but we aren't the worst either. People criticized Gary Neville when he said but if Hazard truly wants to be one of the greats in football, then he needs to do it week in week out.

While I agree, I can hold my hands and say he wasn't great at some points of our season, BUT in these big games he tries so hard to actually do something. The epitoment of his troubles was when Pedro twice tried to put a through ball, one when he was vs Toby and the second being way off target. Add to that, Alonso being poor attacking wise, Matic being able to play the odd pass and Costa not having a great game and it was summed up. Hazard isn't to blame.

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6 hours ago, Weckerz said:

You won't realize what we have until he leaves, 'bored' of the most talented player this club ever had. Crazy comment.

Crazy comments indeed He had one bad game most the lads on his forum calling for His head fs 

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20 hours ago, Jason said:

That is a valid point, but only till a certain extent IMO. It can't be used to justify of how he goes from being very good in one game to being very ineffective or quiet the next (e.g the Bournemouth and Stoke games last week). We aren't great on the technical side of things but we aren't the worst either. People criticized Gary Neville when he said but if Hazard truly wants to be one of the greats in football, then he needs to do it week in week out.

I agree that Hazard need to be more consistent but in most game he is our only creator especially when Fab is not playing.  Asking him to do that every game especially when the team is not playing well is asking too much imo. Even Messi cannot do that every game.

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53 minutes ago, communicate said:

I agree that Hazard need to be more consistent but in most game he is our only creator especially when Fab is not playing.  Asking him to do that every game especially when the team is not playing well is asking too much imo. Even Messi cannot do that every game.

That's just an excuse really. Like I said, we aren't the greatest creative or technical side out there but we aren't the worst either. Hazard already showed he can play well without Fabregas in the XI. So there's no reason why he can't do it and there's no reason for him to play well in one game and then go completely quiet in the next.

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The overreaction. Two games where he didn't set the world alight and suddenly he isn't a top player anymore. Come on a little dip in form is normal, he played very well since September and now he is a little bit tired like the rest of our team. Even on Redcafe or Bluemoon he is labelled as the best PL player this season, so some people need to get some perspective.

He gets a good rest of 10 days before we face Leicester and then I am sure he will be on fire again.

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7 hours ago, Beigl said:

The overreaction. Two games where he didn't set the world alight and suddenly he isn't a top player anymore. Come on a little dip in form is normal, he played very well since September and now he is a little bit tired like the rest of our team. Even on Redcafe or Bluemoon he is labelled as the best PL player this season, so some people need to get some perspective.

He gets a good rest of 10 days before we face Leicester and then I am sure he will be on fire again.

In my defence, I don't think it's overreaction. Just a case of dissatisfied with our better/best player not stepping up in the big games (that's not to say he hasn't done that previously) and Spurs away was a big one. It's also annoying to see Hazard not performing consistently, when we know he can and he's reached the age where he should be doing so. As mentioned, he can be absolutely brilliant in one game and then go completely quiet the next and to say he's been playing very well since September might be stretching it. We may have won 13 of our last 14 league games but there were games where he was brilliant and quiet during that run.

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

In my defence, I don't think it's overreaction. Just a case of dissatisfied with our better/best player not stepping up in the big games (that's not to say he hasn't done that previously) and Spurs away was a big one. It's also annoying to see Hazard not performing consistently, when we know he can and he's reached the age where he should be doing so. As mentioned, he can be absolutely brilliant in one game and then go completely quiet the next and to say he's been playing very well since September might be stretching it. We may have won 13 of our last 14 league games but there were games where he was brilliant and quiet during that run.

My post wasn´t aimed at you, as you have been level headed in this discussion.

Yes, we all know he isn´t consistent enough to be a top 3 player in the world as it stands now, but he still played a big part in our unbeaten run. What bothers me most about him isn´t his consistency(or lack of), but rather his poor finishing. I think he has got more lethal this season under Conte, but for a player of his calibre its still underwhelming.

Against Tottenham he had two great chances he failed to convert which could have changed the game. If he scored those two goals no one would have complained that he had an average game overall. I know it´s silly to compare him to Ronaldo and Messi, but those are good examples (Ronaldo in particular) of players who overshadow their bad games with a couple of goals, a trait that Hazard doesn´t have yet.

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2 hours ago, Beigl said:

My post wasn´t aimed at you, as you have been level headed in this discussion.

Yes, we all know he isn´t consistent enough to be a top 3 player in the world as it stands now, but he still played a big part in our unbeaten run. What bothers me most about him isn´t his consistency(or lack of), but rather his poor finishing. I think he has got more lethal this season under Conte, but for a player of his calibre its still underwhelming.

Against Tottenham he had two great chances he failed to convert which could have changed the game. If he scored those two goals no one would have complained that he had an average game overall. I know it´s silly to compare him to Ronaldo and Messi, but those are good examples (Ronaldo in particular) of players who overshadow their bad games with a couple of goals, a trait that Hazard doesn´t have yet.

Can never be too sure. People get very sensitive about Hazard. :P

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If you support Chelsea theres not one that would ever say get rid of him. But the ones who are calling him out on some things are confusing it with not being involved enough.

Yes he has had 3 or 4 games that hes been very quiet and as he is unfortunately one of our only true creative players then whewn he has a quiet game then the whole team suffers.

When the games happen where Eden gets marked out of the game or they make it so we cant get the ball to him then we need to come up with a plan to do so.

We never came up with a plan B or plan C against Spuds. Thats not Edens fault.

But when hes not getting corners across then thats down to him.

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