Blue Traveler 256 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I tried to stay cool but this is just too much. I might -and probably will- say too much myself and I'm doing it knowingly so I'll take any blame moderator think I deserve. I'm sorry about that in advance.So WHO the hell are YOU to judge people ? People on any forum might hide behind pseudonym but in no way does it means that they haven't done MORE for the community and the world than anyone will ever do and even less does it means they do not deserve RESPECT. Stop acting like you know anyone just because they're some " anonymous " on the web.People like you do more harm than any good they'll ever bring to Mourinho's name. As shameful as it could get from a supposed fan.Blah blah blah.....Live in you "anonymous" world & leave the real one!You can have my "anonymous" cyber RESPECT but Jose has my real one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 This is funny. This thread has like 30+ pages of posts since Wednesday and because Hazard is involved, quite a number here have overreacted or pressed the panic button. Bet if it was another player, nobody would care much and they would probably agree with Mourinho from start to finish.. Stingray, Roquila, AndersonBLUE and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Traveler 256 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 This is funny. This thread has like 30+ pages of posts since Wednesday and because Hazard is involved, quite a number here have overreacted or pressed the panic button. Bet if it was another player, nobody would care much and they would probably agree with Mourinho from start to finish..This not about Hazard any more! It's about Jose. Some people just got the opportunity to come out their closet and slate Jose!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I also think we should look to the possibility of playing a flat 4-4-2 next season as an alternative formation next season. Certainly, the arrival of Matic gives us more flexibilty from a tactical point of view. The amount of kilometres he covers in a game, blocks and interceptions, and his general reading of the game is what makes him a fantastically reliable player in this system. I seem to remember Jorge Jesus even using a 4-4-2 when Matic's influence on the side began to grow.Just look at the teams that have scored the most goals this season. Man City play with two up top, Aguero and Dzeko/Negredo. Liverpool play with two up, Suarez and Sturridge regardless of the system, be it 4-3-3, 4-4-2 (diamond), or the 3-5-2 Rodgers was using earlier this season. These are the two highest scoring teams in the league. During our double season under Carlo, when we broke the goal-scoring record, we played many games with both Drogba and Anelka up top, with Lamps at the tip of the diamond. Drogba and Lampard had their best seasons ever that year. Ferguson's great Man United sides played with two strikers. Either with Cantona/Hughes, Andy Cole/Yorke, Rooney/van Horseface and so on.Those sides were almost always the highest scoring team in the division. Nowadays, a lot of teams have gotten to conservative with it and want to overcrowd the midfield area. Perhaps it's time we use this system as an alternative (or even the main system) against ultra-defensive teams at The Bridge.We can do that to, especially with the personnel we (potentially) have. Can you imagine a 4-4-2 with Costa and Lukaku up front, Hazard on the left, Willian right and Matic holding midfielder? That screams power, pace, skill, technique, we can go long, we can go short...... we can score more goals and win more matches. Yeah but generaly both City and Lpool have one of worst defenses among top teams...just look at amount of goals conceded by Barca; Real, Bayern, Chelsea (who all play with one striker) and compare with City/Lpool (who play with two strikers)The best would be to play either 4:2:3:1 or 4:3:3 (if we get proper players) in CL and PL big games, while we go for 4:4:2 in smaller games, against teams that park bus. But for 4:4:2 to be effective, we would need two high quality strikers (Costa + Benzema/... and 3rd choice Etoo/Lukaku/Bony). Meaning we would have to spend big time on strikers alone (two high quality strikers). Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Hazard "offered" himself to Barcelona a few months ago because he is frustrated with the manager.http://www.mundodeportivo.com/index.htmlhttp://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/chelseas-eden-hazard-wants-barcelona-move-after-reaching-point-of-no-return-with-mourinho-mundo-deportivo/#.U2YbaUSxx00.twitter These bastards are capitalizing on the situation. I don't even like posting this type of shit because it disgusts me but just for the sake of putting it out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Yeah but generaly both City and Lpool have one of worst defenses among top teams...just look at amount of goals conceded by Barca; Real, Bayern, Chelsea (who all play with one striker) and compare with City/Lpool (who play with two strikers)The best would be to play either 4:2:3:1 or 4:3:3 (if we get proper players) in CL and PL big games, while we go for 4:4:2 in smaller games, against teams that park bus.But for 4:4:2 to be effective, we would need two high quality strikers (Costa + Benzema/... and 3rd choice Etoo/Lukaku/Bony). Meaning we would have to spend big time on strikers alone (two high quality strikers).Yeah, that's exactly what I typed. We could do it with Costa and Lukaku. That's more than good enough. Lukaku on his own isn't but with a partner like Costa, it would be menacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Are you for real?!!Your statement is ludicrous on the face of it.That's a very simple comment i made if it's baffles you so much there is no point continuing this argument.Jose, AS A MANAGER, MANAGED ALL OVER THE EUROPE - WON ALL KIND OF TROPHY THERE IS ERGO HAS THE CREDENTIALS! THE REAL ONE! you per se WATCH football on regular bases never played it never managed it no pedigree whatsoever ergo......!It's really that simple.Only as ludicrous as your statement.See, you've got it all wrong. Again, I'll tell you, you don't know anyone personally on here to even say stuff like that. There really is no point arguing with you as you obviously believe that anything Mourinho says and does is 200% the right thing, and that everyone on here does not have any sort of credentials on football or have not watched/played the sport for a long time at all. You might as well not be on the forum then and just listen to Jose's press conferences if you think everyone on here basically has no knowledge about football.Good day sir. zolayes and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Traveler 256 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Only as ludicrous as your statement.See, you've got it all wrong. Again, I'll tell you, you don't know anyone personally on here to even say stuff like that. There really is no point arguing with you as you obviously believe that anything Mourinho says and does is 200% the right thing, and that everyone on here does not have any sort of credentials on football or have not watched/played the sport for a long time at all. You might as well not be on the forum then and just listen to Jose's press conferences if you think everyone on here basically have no knowledge about football.Good day sir.No.Generally speaking, we all can have opinions on football or any other field BUT we must understand that it doesn't make us a certified football manager!Then again not so hard understand.Good day to you too sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 So I think Eden starts today and does everything he is asked including creating a few goals all will be forgotten... Can we talk about the talent of Hazard and not about comments made 4 days ago ppl.. The pop shots at Hazard or Mourinho are not needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 No.Generally speaking, we all can have opinions on football or any other field BUT we must understand that it doesn't make us a certified football manager!Then again not so hard understand.Good day to you too sir!And certified football managers, like the mere mortals that they are, constantly prove on a weekly basis that they are not without flaws and are prone to judgmental errors and poor decision making.How often do teams fail to reach their objectives due to bad judgement and decision making in the transfer market, poor tactics and team selections, inability to make the right adjustments during a game and so on. I see it happen quite a lot to know that managers, even the best of them, are not above criticism and should be criticised when its merited. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Traveler 256 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 And certified football managers, like the mere mortals that they are, constantly prove on a weekly basis that they are not without flaws and are prone to judgmental errors and poor decision making.I don't recall saying they don't make mistakes. of course they do, yet their put on the matter is more eligible than the ones out side of it.I rather go for the one with the proper pedigree than random people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 So I think Eden starts today and does everything he is asked including creating a few goals all will be forgotten... Can we talk about the talent of Hazard and not about comments made 4 days ago ppl.. The pop shots at Hazard or Mourinho are not neededLol no way he was gonna start today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I don't recall saying they don't make mistakes. of course they do, yet their put on the matter is more eligible than the ones out side of it.I rather go for the one with the proper pedigree than random people.But you are saying people "without pedigree" are not at liberty to criticise the mistakes you admitted these managers do make? The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Not starting, didn't even warm up with team mates along with Torres and Eto'o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry33 234 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 This is so fucking bad. Would be awfull to lose Hazard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Traveler 256 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 But you are saying people "without pedigree" are not at liberty to criticise the mistakes you admitted these managers do make?It's like i caught up in loop!Read the previous pages and see where it all started.There is difference between constructive critique and slating. There is difference between "football manager" and an actual football. problem is when some think or want to believe they know better than a real proven football manager it get worsen when they insist on their false criticism! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Hazard in the bench = to papers tomorrow, Hazard gone to psg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,472 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Shocking reaction from Hazard, due to being dropped, after only playing one match after being back from injury.On his way to PSG? Tomo, The only place to be and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Shocking reaction from Hazard, due to being dropped, after only playing one match after being back from injury.On his way to PSG?Yes the papers will say that. They will also say how hazard is dreaming of being in Paris. They are psychics, don't you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Mourinho should of done a better job rotating Hazard and keeping him fresh this season when he had Schurrle available and Willian.No surprise he got injured/burnout towards the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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