Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 why is there a Ramsey v Wilshere debate in the Hazard thread? both Ramsey and Wilshere are dog poo so who cares who is better.Back to Hazard, I think the Everton game on Saturday will be where he explodes back into form, I enjoy watching Hazard v Coleman, I think Hazard will give Seamus nightmares on Saturday. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Arsenal fans don't even want ramsey starting. They want a new cm and either ox or a new rw starting.Arsenal fans are displeased with jack because of his injuries and outside life, not jack wilshere football qualities.No believe me, when playing Arsenal fans feel he is very inconsistent. If they had a choice of Ramsey and Wilshere in the CM, they would want Ramsey. If Coquelin was injured, Ramsey would play in the CM, not Wilshere. Pre-season proved that. Wilshere played out wide IIRC. I just think that is ridiculous to laugh at someone saying Ramsey is better than Wilshere when most Arsenal fans think that.I agree that injuries have set back Wilshere but remember Ramsey had a serious injury too but the difference is that Ramsey came back stronger and is turning out in to the player Arsenal fans expected Wilshere to be.This was around this stage last season but it reflects what Ramsey gives more than Wilshere. Yeah he played more mins but it shows how good Ramsey's all round game is. This season you cannot really use those stats as he is being played out wide. Agree to disagree.http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2014/09/13/head-to-head-jack-wilshere-vs-aaron-ramsey-how-far-behind-his-ar/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 God it's always so boring in here during internationals. TheIceMan, Blue_Fox_ and Sir Mikel OBE 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 God it's always so boring in here during internationals.Look on the bright sideWe didnt drop any points this week Amblève. and The Mak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Why do people keep bringing up International form. The man in my avi is 10x better than Hazard at International level, guess he's the better player too.Neymar and Hazard are both World Class players with contrasting playing styles. Let's leave it at that. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Why are you showing me what an Arsenal fan says of Ramsey? That is so biased. My friend who is a massive Arsenal fan does not rate Wilshere at all and criticises him. Anyway I disagree with that. Ramsey is a quality CM for me but he just likes to go forward a bit too much. And yeah I don't get why Wenger plays Ramsey out wide but the fact he starts him in like every game says something. Same analogy you have been using to show why Brazil managers use Coutinho ahead of Oscar. Do me a favour, the same way you got the one quote from a fan about Ramsey, why don't you do a poll with Arsenal fans and find out who they think is the better CM/player and why they think that?Then we will see criticism about Wilshere but no you choose one quote which a fan said about Ramsey. Most Arsenal fans rate Ramsey over WIlshere. Please do that because I don't want to keep engaging about who is the better out out of 2 Arsenal players on a Chelsea forum thanks.Because if you ask an Arsenal fan who is their best cm, they will say Pogba. Will leave you clueless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo 2 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Back on topic: yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 interesting stats hope this is a good sign we need hazard at this best again Hamilton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 He normally causes some danger to defenses even if we are terrible but this season, his performances have been Stingray, yuvala and TheIceMan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Needs to be dropped againt Arsenal next weekend. And dont give me this crap that he is out star blah blah. thats the problem he knows he will be starting each game so why does he need to prove himself. Ill say again Him, Fabregas, Branna and matic need to be dropped and made to fight and prove them self's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 "The phantom of the bridge" TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Last Sicarius and iseah100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Hazard was slow every season he has been on the team, however, this season, due to our poor record, people ripping him apart....Hazard was definitely a key player last season, but so was Cesc, Costa, Matic, etc... This whole idea that Hazard carried Chelsea all throughout the season is complete nonsense. Second half, yes. Full season, I don't think so and especially not in cups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 What happend to him?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 it's more like playing with 11 Torres! Now that i think about it We're in bad form since Torres left for good. He was the only player who took all the bad form on his shoulders leaving the others free from the curse, now that he's gone the curse has spread to all the players. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted September 12, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted September 12, 2015 How he won the PFA Player of the Year...I don't know. He was invisible most parts last seasonWhat thé fuck did i just read ? iseah100, stroey, Tautvix and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 He has so much talent, some one needs to tell him to be more hungry, control the game, ask for the ball more, beat men and for gods sake shoot. He's too passive for my liking. He needs that swagger and spite to his game, for me he's just too nice. Imagine if Hazard had Suarez's mentality, he'll be on a different level. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Instead of posting a stupid response like that, why do you disagree...Even though you deliberately cut out the rest of my post so you can post your "WTF did I just read?!" Questioning Hazard's PFA player of the year award ( when he's won almost every individual award he could win in England last season ( the Barclays player of the season, FWA footballer of the year, PFA players, player of the year)Everyone was in agreement that Hazard was the best player in the PL.Describing Hazard's season as "He was invisible most parts last season, but I guess in return he had like 10 magical moments that were vital."This part makes me question if you've actually watched him last season. He was incredibly consistent. He was great from start to finish and he had a lot more then 10 magical moments.I just don't see the point though of debating this with you. If you genuinley think Hazard didn't deserve to win the PFA POTY and was invisible for most parts last season then i really don't know what i can say that's gonna change your mind.Only thing i could say would be to rewatch the games last season but we both know you're not gonna do that. Stingray, Essien19 and Stats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 He has so much talent, some one needs to tell him to be more hungry, control the game, ask for the ball more, beat men and for gods sake shoot. He's too passive for my liking. He needs that swagger and spite to his game, for me he's just too nice. Imagine if Hazard had Suarez's mentality, he'll be on a different level. You can't teach hunger though. You either have it or you don't. bababoom, robsblubot and The Chels 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Questioning Hazard's PFA player of the year award ( when he's won almost every individual award he could win in England last season ( the Barclays player of the season, FWA footballer of the year, PFA players, player of the year)Everyone was in agreement that Hazard was the best player in the PL.Describing Hazard's season as "He was invisible most parts last season, but I guess in return he had like 10 magical moments that were vital."This part makes me question if you've actually watched him last season. He was incredibly consistent. He was great from start to finish and he had a lot more then 10 magical moments.I just don't see the point though of debating this with you. If you genuinley think Hazard didn't deserve to win the PFA POTY and was invisible for most parts last season then i really don't know what i can say that's gonna change your mind.Only thing i could say would be to rewatch the games last season but we both know you're not gonna do that.awards mean nothing...Everyone has their own agenda. David Silva has been voted in the PFA TOTY once and Aguero 0x.Silva 0 PFA POTY, Aguero 0 POTY.Hazard was one of the top players last season, but I wouldn't take the fact he won PFA POTY as the reason he was the best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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