kellzfresh 7,229 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Top 5 is a stretch....Top 5 in Epl definitely.(Aguero, silva, yaya, hazard, Sanchez)Hazard at his best is top 8 in the world. But he's not consistent enough to maintain that level or consistently score/assist while the whole team is playing shit like he finally did recently for Belgium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted September 9, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted September 9, 2015 The only thing Hazard has done wrong was not be born ten years earlier, if he came along in the 00s he would have been universally adored and appreciated.Pre Messi/Ronaldo could you imagine anyone critisising a winger who regularly and consistently hits the late teens in the scoring, creates an unreal amount of chances for teammates and often carries his club for not doing enough? Mufassir08, Essien19, The Skipper and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 The only thing Hazard has done wrong was not be born ten years earlier, if he came along in the 00s he would have been universally adored and appreciated.Pre Messi/Ronaldo could you imagine anyone critisising a winger who regularly and consistently hits the late teens in the scoring, creates an unreal amount of chances for teammates and often carries his club for not doing enough?eden hazard won POTY for Chelsea and EPL last season.Young POTY the season before that and EPL team of the year every season so far.EDEN is universally adored and appreciated, I have no clue where you guys get this nonsense that Eden isn'tNeither silva nor Aguero won poty and silva only has one EPL team of the season while aguero has 0..... It's complete nonsense to think that hazard is being underappreciated. Hazard scored 19 goals last season, with 6 being pks (6/8)...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,226 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 eden hazard won POTY for Chelsea and EPL last season.Young POTY the season before that and EPL team of the year every season so far.EDEN is universally adored and appreciated, I have no clue where you guys get this nonsense that Eden isn'tNeither silva nor Aguero won poty and silva only has one EPL team of the season while aguero has 0..... It's complete nonsense to think that hazard is being underappreciated. Hazard scored 19 goals last season, with 6 being pks (6/8)......Yeah and he probably earned all 8 penalties if that was a dig at him. If you get fouled in the box like he does, that is a skill and he has every right for those penalties to be included as a personal achievement as he earns majority of them. Just imagine if Suarez was the penalty taker at Liverpool. He would of had over 40 league goals and that would have been fully justified, like Hazard's pens because majroity of them he earns due to his great skill on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Yeah and he probably earned all 8 penalties if that was a dig at him. If you get fouled in the box like he does, that is a skill and he has every right for those penalties to be included as a personal achievement as he earns majority of them. Just imagine if Suarez was the penalty taker at Liverpool. He would of had over 40 league goals and that would have been fully justified, like Hazard's pens because majroity of them he earns due to his great skill on the ball.AND?He actually won only half the pks (3/6), not all of them. Also, he scored 7 goals technically from pks if you count the rebound header against CP, so I guess 4/7..Point is that Hazard is well respected by his peers based on individual accolades given to him since he has played professional football...Guys like David Silva and Aguero are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 less productive? messi ronaldo and neymar are miles more productive. the lad needs to stop screwing up these arsenal and man city chances, if he wants a raise. for now he will have to settle for two hundred thousand pounds every 7 days.Can't even imagine what makes you guys think that Neymar is at the same level or even higher than Hazard. Neymar is the most overrated player in this world (Except James Rodriguez of course) . Hazard is a great passer, great dribbler and a team player while Neymar is just a goal poacher nothing more but i guess these players are more recognised nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Can't even imagine what makes you guys think that Neymar is at the same level or even higher than Hazard. Neymar is the most overrated player in this world (Except James Rodriguez of course) . Hazard is a great passer, great dribbler and a team player while Neymar is just a goal poacher nothing more but i guess these players are more recognised nowadays."Neymar has now scored (236) and assisted (108) a combined total of 344 goals in 384 official matches #fcblive [via @champ_ian]" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hazard has better lower body and close control dribble. I can't think of anything else Hazard is better than neymar in (MAYBE PKs?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hazard has better lower body and close control dribble. I can't think of anything else Hazard is better than neymar in (MAYBE PKs?)He's definitely more creative than Neymar as well. Eden creates a lot with his dribbles and can pick out a pass quite well.Everything else is pretty close, apart from finishing. That's where Neymar has the clear upper hand. Stats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,226 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 AND?He actually won only half the pks (3/6), not all of them. Also, he scored 7 goals technically from pks if you count the rebound header against CP, so I guess 4/7..Point is that Hazard is well respected by his peers based on individual accolades given to him since he has played professional football...Guys like David Silva and Aguero are not. Well out of the 8 penalties he took, 5 of them he earned himself. Silva and Aguero are respected and admired amongst many. I think most people regard Aguero as the best striker in the league. If both of them stayed fit over the course of the season they would definitely receive individual accolades. That is something Hazard has managed to do. And no top 5 is not a stretch to put Hazard in. But let me guess, you probably are going to look at goals and assists to say why Hazard is not.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 A lot think Aguero is the best 9 in the world (with Suarez). Stats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 He's definitely more creative than Neymar as well. Eden creates a lot with his dribbles and can pick out a pass quite well.Everything else is pretty close, apart from finishing. That's where Neymar has the clear upper hand.Well out of the 8 penalties he took, 5 of them he earned himself. Silva and Aguero are respected and admired amongst many. I think most people regard Aguero as the best striker in the league. If both of them stayed fit over the course of the season they would definitely receive individual accolades. That is something Hazard has managed to do. And no top 5 is not a stretch to put Hazard in. But let me guess, you probably are going to look at goals and assists to say why Hazard is not....Neymar role is not the same as Hazard. Watch neymar for brazil and hazard for belgium, and tell me who the better "creator" is...... Neymar has terrific vision, however, he's a selfish prick more often than not cause he wants Pele record.TOP 5 is a stretch....Messi, suarez, neymar, cristiano, james, modric, bale, benzema, etc. Thats only the big 2 in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 "Neymar has now scored (236) and assisted (108) a combined total of 344 goals in 384 official matches #fcblive [via @champ_ian]"Maybe you didn't read my comment, i said he was a goal poacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Maybe you didn't read my comment, i said he was a goal poacherneymar is more than a goal poacher...However, you seem to rate mr ramsey aka I do nothing all game and score a random goal over Jack Wilshere, a terrific balance CM... The irony and biased mindset in your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 neymar is more than a goal poacher...However, you seem to rate mr ramsey aka I do nothing all game and score a random goal over Jack Wilshere, a terrific balance CM... The irony and biased mindset in your statement. And maybe Mr. Ramsey scores terrific goals and also good at passing , while Neymar just uses his speed to get into a good position to be set up by Messi to score a Tap in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,226 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 neymar is more than a goal poacher...However, you seem to rate mr ramsey aka I do nothing all game and score a random goal over Jack Wilshere, a terrific balance CM... The irony and biased mindset in your statement. Ramsey is better than Wilshere. He is playing out wide but he needs to play CM. He is one of the best athletic midfielders around. Good balance, excellent footwork, agility and all round play. cfcs most wanted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Ramsey is better than Wilshere. He is playing out wide but he needs to play CM. He is one of the best athletic midfielders around. Good balance, excellent footwork, agility and all round play.And maybe Mr. Ramsey scores terrific goals and also good at passing , while Neymar just uses his speed to get into a good position to be set up by Messi to score a Tap in Neymar scored 46 goals for brazil without messi and suarez playing with hulk, everyone's favorite enemy, oscar and according to people here, no end product Willian. HAHAHA, ramsey a better player than Jack is the funniest thing i heard. When healthy, Jack has everything, except ideal height/body strength for a cm. Ramsey is a goal poacher that does jack shit all game and score a random goal. All those things you mentioned ramsey did well in, wilshere is better than him at.Balance, footwork, speed/agility and all around play MefiX19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Neymar scored 46 goals for brazil without messi and suarez playing with hulk, everyone's favorite enemy, oscar and according to people here, no end product Willian. HAHAHA, ramsey a better player than Jack is the funniest thing i heard. When healthy, Jack has everything, except ideal height/body strength for a cm. Ramsey is a goal poacher that does jack shit all game and score a random goal. All those things you mentioned ramsey did well in, wilshere is better than him at.Balance, footwork, speed/agility and all around playSpeed and footwork is nowhere close to Wilshere's game, he is a good player in many aspects but Ramsey is a better player Stats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 When did Ramsey become fast all of a sudden. Ramsey is such a good CM, that Santi Cazolra plays CM for arsenal now The irony in that people rate hazard over neymar, yet the same rate ramsey over jack wilshere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hazard has better lower body and close control dribble. I can't think of anything else Hazard is better than neymar in (MAYBE PKs?)Vision. Passing and general linkup play. Defensive work.Neymar is far superior in finishing, off the ball runs and slightly in technique. Essien19, The Skipper and Despiadado.Maleante 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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