Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted April 25, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 25, 2015 Fanboys.Hazard is enjoying an incredible season for me. His class would be more obvious if he were to play in a more dominant team, with better teammates (in offence). Whether he can keep it up and improve remains to be seen.Lionsden is right about the tendency of fans to overrate their own (the same can be said about overrating players of other teams btw). But fans also overrate past greats. Big moments on the big stage define careers. People talk about the likes of Zidane, Ronaldo, Figo, Carlos, Del Piero etc. as if they were these magical players, producing top performances on a weekly basis, every single season. And that's a lie. The good is remembered and the bad is forgotten. Zidane's CL final goal alone skyrocketed his stock to infinity and beyond. And we will do the same with the current generation. I can already imagine everybody reminiscing about Iniesta's goal vs Chelsea in 10-20 years. Or what about Messi, possibly the tiniest player on the pitch, leaping into the air, almost levitating, and heading that ball in like Batitusta in the 2009 CL final. Because that's we do.But then you hear Zidane talk about Hazard for example, or Romario about Neymar, and you see how these past greats recognise greatness in the new boys. But Hazard lacks big moments in his career. That one highlight that you will always remember, one brilliant piece of play with the whole world watching. Or something like a devastating performance in the semi-final of the CL. I think Hazard's biggest moment was his goal against Bayern. But that was just the Supercup, and the goal wasn't really special. He's only 24 though, so he still has time.And that's why ultimately all the comparisons with other superstars aren't fair to Hazard in my opinion. No disrespect to our guys but they just aren't comparable with some of the all-star lineups that these other teams have. Neymar, Suarez and Messi is a fucking ridiculous front-line for example; that's pure fantasy football. You pair up Hazard with players of comparable skill and talent and I'm sure he'd be an even bigger threat than he is now. MrExcalibur100, Blue Colored Sky, Stats and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhanaBoy 104 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 And that's why ultimately all the comparisons with other superstars aren't fair to Hazard in my opinion. No disrespect to our guys but they just aren't comparable with some of the all-star lineups that these other teams have. Neymar, Suarez and Messi is a fucking ridiculous front-line for example; that's pure fantasy football. You pair up Hazard with players of comparable skill and talent and I'm sure he'd be an even bigger threat than he is now.but are there superstars available of such caliber on the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 but are there superstars available of such caliber on the market?Yup. Do we look for them or for more functional role-players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted April 25, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 25, 2015 Fanboys.Hazard is enjoying an incredible season for me. His class would be more obvious if he were to play in a more dominant team, with better teammates (in offence). Whether he can keep it up and improve remains to be seen.Lionsden is right about the tendency of fans to overrate their own (the same can be said about overrating players of other teams btw). But fans also overrate past greats. Big moments on the big stage define careers. People talk about the likes of Zidane, Ronaldo, Figo, Carlos, Del Piero etc. as if they were these magical players, producing top performances on a weekly basis, every single season. And that's a lie. The good is remembered and the bad is forgotten. Zidane's CL final goal alone skyrocketed his stock to infinity and beyond. And we will do the same with the current generation. I can already imagine everybody reminiscing about Iniesta's goal vs Chelsea in 10-20 years. Or what about Messi, possibly the tiniest player on the pitch, leaping into the air, almost levitating, and heading that ball in like Batitusta in the 2009 CL final. Because that's we do.But then you hear Zidane talk about Hazard for example, or Romario about Neymar, and you see how these past greats recognise greatness in the new boys. But Hazard lacks big moments in his career. That one highlight that you will always remember, one brilliant piece of play with the whole world watching. Or something like a devastating performance in the semi-final of the CL. I think Hazard's biggest moment was his goal against Bayern. But that was just the Supercup, and the goal wasn't really special. He's only 24 though, so he still has time.ITAThe thing is I think that's just next in his development, and it's going to be quite natural, not something he will develop, but will just happen. For the kid to start influencing big matches, he needs to influence matches in a consistent basis, something he didn't do yet until this season. He would influence a match or two and be a non-factor in the following one or two. A few times last season when we needed him the most in matches we couldn't break down the opponents' defense, he'd dribble without influencing or would just disappear (and I mean league games, not even UCL). This changed completely and now he's taking matters into his own hands match after match. And then which kind of match that is won't be relevant anymore, because he's developed into just making things happen when the whole team depends on his geniality, it's becoming second nature to him, and that's something people don't think much. Influencing matches is like a habit someone develops and once they start doing it constantly, it's only a matter of time (and occasion coming) for them to influence big, knock-out matches. If it's a habit, you just do it because you have the tools and skills and I think that's the point Eden just reached.It's only a matter of a time for those matches to be here and he start to impact them as well. He's been nearly flawless in the last few months and I'm completely happy and proud of how he developed this season. I won't be surprised at all if next season because of a goal scored by him, an assist or a play he created by himself we take higher flights in UCL. He's ready for that now imo, which is why I don't worry if he will do it or not. I think up until last season he didn't have the ability to do it consistently and could do it once by luck or something - which I was okay with, the kid is still developing. I think he's now ready to influence any and every Chelsea match and it'll be a joy to watch (which doesn't mean he won't have an off day once in a while, or even a small/short bad patch of form, even the myths people love to mention in this thread have failed to influence important matches. With the amount of talent Argentina has had the last few years, it's criminal that Messi didn't take matters into his own hands and led them to win a WC - which will always be a dent in his claim to be the best player ever. He may be the best club player ever, with a system and a team built around him, with every single player brought and developed with the skills to offer him the best chances to shine with his incredible and rare talent, but he failed with a generation that wasn't that bad (8 years ago yes, but the last generation of Argentinean is a very good one).So yeah, I'm happy with Eden. It doesn't really matter if he's better, equal or worse to Robben, Neymar, Ribery and who else people want to compare. The only thing that matters is that he's progressed immensely this season, he wears Blue, just got a new contract and will be even more deadly comes next season. All those players - from present and past that people mention on this thread are or were great in their own way. Some will value certain things/skills over others and that's why there are so many different opinions. I'm just happy we have such a special player playing for us and I don't see him leaving any time soon (if not at all). Adnane, Tiwaz, mediator and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 And that's why ultimately all the comparisons with other superstars aren't fair to Hazard in my opinion. No disrespect to our guys but they just aren't comparable with some of the all-star lineups that these other teams have. Neymar, Suarez and Messi is a fucking ridiculous front-line for example; that's pure fantasy football. You pair up Hazard with players of comparable skill and talent and I'm sure he'd be an even bigger threat than he is now.Did you just see Barca's goal? Oh man..... that goal almost brought tears to my eyes. I can't believe it. Magical, magnificent football. Barca is giving away a demonstration right now. kellzfresh and Styles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 25, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 25, 2015 This is awesome, lol. Blue Armour, Roquila, Blue-in-me-Veins and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 The JM-Eden Hazard relationship is like father & son. iceman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 It's like having Drogba with a better arse on the wing, the way he forcefully drags defenders away from their position leaving space for our other players to exploit. I don't think another player has done this since Messi many years ago, which makes it impossible to accurately compare Hazard to any player.In today's market he would be impossible to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 200m for Hazard plus Bale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illmatic 901 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 200m for Hazard plus Bale.And Varane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Tomorrow, Hazard will most definitely be announced player of the year at the awards ceremony in London, after the Arsenal vs Chelsea game. They've probably already told him he's won it, as they tell the winners prior, so that they can get ready. Lamps will be there also to receive an honorary award from the PFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Not for sale dude Barbara and Styles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Great interview with Sky. Add it to the wank bank!http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9820870/eden-hazard-extended-interview? Coop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Honestly, this kicks the ass of that feroze vid, and not just because our name is on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwLD3BEH0xA Stingray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Honestly, this kicks the ass of that feroze vid, and not just because our name is on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwLD3BEH0xA top video indeed,gave me goosebumbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 That guy makes class video's.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 That guy makes class video's..He is the best out there for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,997 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Given the SkySports exclusive, I get a feeling they know why they are publishing it - the interview with the PFA Player of the Year. Open 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 came here to celebrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 BBC website visitors voted him poty with 34% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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