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[Hutcho 8,443]

Hmm.. I was totally blown away by the Hulk youtube compilations... i was so eager for him to join chelsea i bought tickets for the Bra vs Arg game last weekend and watched the game..

My first live game and was totally blown away by ... not Hulk.. but Messi !! Superb hattrick from him.. just WOW... anyways back to topic.. Hulk though he scored a goal off a corner.. was made to look very average by Zabaleta !!! He did not dribble past him even once.. Got 2 one on one chances and blew them both... Maybe it was just a off day and he failed to turn up.. or maybe it was a friendly and he wanted to take it easy... either ways he wasn't convincing enough for 38m price tag... Neymar on the other hand was totally world class... i had always doubted his you tube bits.. but was totally impressed with his play.. very good awareness.. nice touches.. excellent turn of speed, good dribbles.. only difference between him and messi was finishing.. guess he will get that with age... Lucas Moura another palyer linked with us came on for the last 10 mins and rarely had a touch.. So cannot comment on him...

But on this game's eveidence.. Neymar over Hulk anytime !!

Neymar is mainly a ST... I rate him as well, but the problem we will have is he probably doesn't want to play RW, meaning he would play ST. Torres doesn't like RW at all meaning we would have the same problem at RW.... Though please correct me if im wrong as i admit i dont follow the brazilian league... And if in fact he loves to play RW then i take it back...

Also would neymar even leave... And if he does he would probably cost a hell of a lot more than 30 mil.... As in they would probably ask for like 50/60 mil, based on what we paid for Fernando.

[Madmax 9,219]

Not value for money. Not even close.

[MGuerreiro 252]

Neymar is mainly a ST... I rate him as well, but the problem we will have is he probably doesn't want to play RW, meaning he would play ST. Torres doesn't like RW at all meaning we would have the same problem at RW.... Though please correct me if im wrong as i admit i dont follow the brazilian league... And if in fact he loves to play RW then i take it back...

Also would neymar even leave... And if he does he would probably cost a hell of a lot more than 30 mil.... As in they would probably ask for like 50/60 mil, based on what we paid for Fernando.

I think Neymar is bound to go to Spain.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Hulk interest hots up

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7809010/

What kinda of shit is this?

The Guardian reported that the deal was done, and now nothing is done?

Guardian has now gone into my unreliable list!

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

His agent is just trying to get more money. Situation is the same as it was last week.

[apexbbq 2]

His agent is just trying to get more money. Situation is the same as it was last week.

Exactly. That sky sports quote from the agent was definitely a power play. He has no reason to tell the press about how many teams are involved except to pressure Chelsea into paying a higher price.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Why is everyone so insistent on Chelsea needing a RW? Has everyone become Roy Hodgson and become obsessed with formation discipline? What you need on a squad are roles. Chelsea have Hazard and Mata to create up front and Lampard to create from deeper. Teams don't have or need four players setting up the attack. In fact, that becomes a problem because when you have too many people wanting the ball, it leaves others unhappy. That is, unless you play the Barcelona ball control type of games, but Hulk is not that kind of player anyway. He loves to shoot from distance. People act as if it's a mathematical equation. "We scored 65 goals last season and Torres will be much better so he should double his tally and Hazard should score 10-15 and Hulk should score 15 etc...so we should score 120 goals!!!". Football doesn't work that way. There are a limited number of chances, a limited number of shots available and a limited number of touches. There comes a point when if you keep adding playmakers and keep adding scorers, it makes no difference because they are just taking away touches from other players.

I thought Ramires was overrated by many supporters last season, but I actually really like him in this formation because he doesn't have to touch the ball to be successful. If Chelsea had Ramires, Mata, and Hazard behind the striker, Ramires' movement and speed would allow Hazard and Mata to create space and chances for themselves and the striker. And it's not like these players are forced to stick in one position. You let them have freedom with the cover of Lampard and Mikel and the back 4. Mata played all over the pitch last season and Hazard can do the same. If there is space on the right hand side, either one of them can move into that position and let Ramires make his runs up the middle. If you want to play a more attacking 4-3-3, then Sturridge can provide you with another scorer with Lampard, Mata, and Hazard all supporting him and Torres.

[The Skipper 20,593]

I don't think anyone is obsessed with getting a "RW" strictly. Most people want a natural right sided attacker, as we don't have a single one in the squad.

[Leif 6,006]

Ramires has been a breakout player this season (and on the right wing, too), so I see no reason why he should be dropped or put in a less influential deep role.

I absolutely love watching him tear defenders a new bumhole on that right side.

He's also been scoring quite a bit, including that goal vs. Barcelona.

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

As much as I like Ramires, he isn't the solution for our right wing in my opinion. Although he has scored a few, his finishing can be somewhat erratic. He was merely a temporary solution to our lack of width/defensive balance. I hope he can adapt to the double pivot in our 4-2-3-1 because it doesn't seem likely that he'll be the first choice right winger next season, if we sign Hulk or not.

[bloody 209]

another short player?

[bloody 209]

we really need a tall player like cech in our midfield, not another midget midfielder/winger when our current squad is full of them.

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

we really need a tall player like cech in our midfield, not another midget when our current squad is full of them.

Unfortunately there aren't many 6'5" wingers in world football. In terms of aerial ability we won't be anything near what we were last season with Drogba up top, what we will be, however, is faster/sharper/more intricate. Hopefully we'll start to see the development of a new style of Chelsea play next term.

[bloody 209]

Unfortunately there aren't many 6'5" wingers in world football. In terms of aerial ability we won't be anything near what we were last season with Drogba up top, what we will be, however, is faster/sharper/more intricate. Hopefully we'll start to see the development of a new style of Chelsea play next term.

true, the only player that tall and might be good enough for us is fellaini

fair enough, we'll be faster/sharper/more intricate. but we also need a plan b if that don't work.

we're playing in england, not in spain. midgets will be pushed off the ball much more often here.

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

true, the only player that tall and might be good enough for us is fellaini

fair enough, we'll be faster/sharper/more intricate. but we also need a plan b if that don't work.

we're playing in england, not in spain. midgets will be pushed off the ball more often here.

Not sure what qualifies as 'midget' in your eyes, but Zola was notoriously difficult to push off the ball despite being small/short. I see very similar qualities in Hazard as well. Aguero is the same. Mata is somewhat weaker on the ball but is much more clever in terms of his play/touches. Don't worry about Hulk's height, theres not many that can push him off the ball

[bloody 209]

Not sure what qualifies as 'midget' in your eyes, but Zola was notoriously difficult to push off the ball despite being small/short. I see very similar qualities in Hazard as well. Aguero is the same. Mata is somewhat weaker on the ball but is much more clever in terms of his play/touches. Don't worry about Hulk's height, theres not many that can push him off the ball

not many can push hulk off the ball in portugal.

i don't think it'd be the same in england.

[pachman40 357]

Fernando

Cardozo

Aimar

Gaitan

Patricio

Capel

Gomes

Lima

All equal-ish to Hulk. (I'm aware they play in different positions most of them, but they're to their position as what Hulk is to his position.)

This comment is wrong on so many levels. Gomes? Lima? Cardozo? Dear God there is no credibility left after reading that list. I'm sorry, but Hulk is not getting enough credit from you. When he is in the line-up playing at right wing instead of centre forward, Porto are a completely different and almost unbeatable team. The only people on that list that can have nearly the same impact to their team are Aimar and Patricio. I'm not saying Hulk is king of the world Golden Ball winner quality, but to name these guys and say Hulk is equal-ish may go down as the least truthful misleading statement I have ever heard or read in my life. Am I exaggerating? You guys decide.

[The Skipper 20,593]

not many can push hulk off the ball in portugal.

i don't think it'd be the same in england.

This ridiculous mentality of the Portuguese league being soooo inferior to the PL needs to stop. Some talk about the Portuguese league as if it's comparable to League 2 in Scotland.