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[Justin_3d 1,140]

The only reason I dont think Hulk will be good here is because of his brasilian thinking. Lot of brasilian players lose their play in EPL.

Lucas is not even half mature as Hulk.

Dzagoev, Ayew or Gotze if Hulk wont come

Why no one wants Ayew? He is decent size, bit bulky, realy fast, good with head and both legs. Also as second striker and has some experience in CL. He was quite good this year in France.

Not sure with that thinking when we got David Luiz, Ramires, and in the past Alex!

Not to mention that Lucas Leiva for Liverpool was the best player form them till he got injured.

Surely such fairy tale does not hold truth any more. Like the myth of being lightweight be put to rest with players like Mata, Silva and such.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Because he doesn't really play on the right. Hulk is so much more direct that Ayew or Gotze or Dzagoev. Dzagoev shouldn't even be in the mix tbh, he'd be behind Mata and Hazard for his in the hole spot in the team.

Ayew and Gotze are also more naturally on the left if I'm correct. The point I'm trying to make is that Hulk offers more when it comes to a physical, direct presence in attack. In my opinion we need someone direct in attack to force things if the likes of Hazard and Mata are getting shut down, or if we're on the counter perhaps. Ramires and Hulk on the counter would be devistating.

Dzagoev is right winger for Cska and Russia national team, while Ayew (you were right) is left winger. But in that case, we can just put Hazard to right, since he is good on both flanks. Ayew is younger and half cheaper, He scored around 20 goals this year, made 40 apps for Ghana and looks very certain to suceed despite his young age. He has that factor 'I will prove myself', is worker and not like Hazard, who is more a star himself.

And just harsh comparison, Ayew scored 3 goals less this year (while playing in harder league for a club in crisis) than Hulk, 3 years younger, 177cm, 73kg, both play on wing or as second striker, speed, stamina, pace dribbling, while it is more possible that Ayew would evolve better than Hulk at Chelsea and play here for longer time.

I realy want to see Hulk here, but perhaps he is overrated, and I dont want to see another 50mil spent for air...A new Robben we need...

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

BlueLyon we're not getting Ayew so you might as well stop.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Not sure with that thinking when we got David Luiz, Ramires, and in the past Alex!

Not to mention that Lucas Leiva for Liverpool was the best player form them till he got injured.

Surely such fairy tale does not hold truth any more. Like the myth of being lightweight be put to rest with players like Mata, Silva and such.

It depends on type of player, defenders nowdays have no real problems, same with prospects, but

brasilian superstars wonder me, Hulk is much more hyped than Ramires or Leiva, but if he can handle that 50mil pressure than fine...

[BlueLyon 9,359]

BlueLyon we're not getting Ayew so you might as well stop.

At one point you want Hulk, then not because of his price and looking for alternatives like Muniain, and we have never been linked with him, while in winter, there was interest in Ayew...

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

At one point you want Hulk, then not because of his price and looking for alternatives like Muniain, and we have never been linked with him, while in winter, there was interest in Ayew...

I don't want Muniain......He is nothing special.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

It depends on type of player, defenders nowdays have no real problems, same with prospects, but

brasilian superstars wonder me, Hulk is much more hyped than Ramires or Leiva, but if he can handle that 50mil pressure than fine...

50 mill pressure?

You don't need to be from Brazil to feel that pressure!

Ask a certain Mr. Fernando Torres from Spain to see how that feels?

[The Skipper 20,609]

Dzagoev is right winger for Cska and Russia national team, while Ayew (you were right) is left winger. But in that case, we can just put Hazard to right, since he is good on both flanks. Ayew is younger and half cheaper, He scored around 20 goals this year, made 40 apps for Ghana and looks very certain to suceed despite his young age. He has that factor 'I will prove myself', is worker and not like Hazard, who is more a star himself.

And just harsh comparison, Ayew scored 3 goals less this year (while playing in harder league for a club in crisis) than Hulk, 3 years younger, 177cm, 73kg, both play on wing or as second striker, speed, stamina, pace dribbling, while it is more possible that Ayew would evolve better than Hulk at Chelsea and play here for longer time.

I realy want to see Hulk here, but perhaps he is overrated, and I dont want to see another 50mil spent for air...A new Robben we need...

My mum's from Ghana so I know quite a lot about Ayew's talent. He really is a class act, but not what we need IMO. He's not as direct as Hulk and while he could work, I think Hulk is more suitable to the PL. We've already got two similar players like Ayew in Hazard and Mata.

You're right though, we shouldn't be looking to sign Hulk anywhere near 50mil. The CFC board know this as well, so we really need to stick to our guns and not let Porto mug us off. Hulk is trying to push it through in the most sentimental way but I think he's going to have to do more.

We'll see. It's only a matter of time.

[silkycuts 19]

How can Hulk (a reserve player for the brazilian team) cost more than a player who has won 'the best player in France' title for the last 2 years, and is a few years younger as well... am I missing somthing?

[The Skipper 20,609]

How can Hulk (a reserve player for the brazilian team) cost more than a player who has won 'the best player in France' title for the last 2 years, and is a few years younger as well... am I missing somthing?

Hulk isn't a "reserve" player for Brazil. Hulk has been the best player in Portugal for several years now.

That's what you're missing.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

How can Hulk (a reserve player for the brazilian team) cost more than a player who has won 'the best player in France' title for the last 2 years, and is a few years younger as well... am I missing somthing?

I think it's safe to say that Menes is not the brightest of coaches.

[termninja 5,290]

How can Hulk (a reserve player for the brazilian team) cost more than a player who has won 'the best player in France' title for the last 2 years, and is a few years younger as well... am I missing somthing?

If the best player in France was playing for Porto he would cost more since they always sell their players for hefty prices, especially to us though technically he would be the best player in Portugal then

It's really down for the people leading the clubs. What they want and what kind of person they are.

And some of you should wait for some more credible source to post the fees rather then going all nuts with millions thrown in our faces.

[Waterfall 893]

If the best player in France was playing for Porto he would cost more since they always sell their players for hefty prices, especially to us though technically he would be the best player in Portugal then

It's really down for the people leading the clubs. What they want and what kind of person they are.

And some of you should wait for some more credible source to post the fees rather then going all nuts with millions thrown in our faces.

Looks like they might have jumped the gun, but Guardian is usually more credible than most

[Severinb 309]

Have we officialy lost interest in him?source?

[Superblue 6,372]

How can Hulk (a reserve player for the brazilian team) cost more than a player who has won 'the best player in France' title for the last 2 years, and is a few years younger as well... am I missing somthing?

I think you'll find Hulk has started the last few matches for Brazil and is starting to prove himself as a first choice.

And anyway this is the same Brazil that can't even find a place for Ramires in their squad, let alone the first team, and I don't think he has done too shabby for us!

[The Skipper 20,609]

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First Portuguese source I've seen that doesn't quote the Daily Mail or The Times. Hopefully we're getting closer to a decent deal.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

seeems like were going back to old ways, and stretchin out transfers. i think i'd rather see us buy the rb first, always feels more secure. so if porto want to play tough let them, he's there player and only denying the inevitable, try and wrap it up last week of june.

alsoooo, where the fuk is our manager, that being said that first, then azpili then hulk or other world class rw.

[Chelsea_Fan 227]

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[The Big Drog 1,110]

What does the Abola article say?

[magic weeds 446]

http://www.abola.pt/....aspx?id=335841

What does the Abola article say?

It says that:

"All is clear for Hulk to negotiate his deal to chelsea. He is free from interntional duty and should start pushing for a deal to go through. He had a a very good tour after scoring 3 in 4 games. This should prove his value and Chelsea should be able to conclude a deal with Porto soon."