🇧🇷 David Luiz

[Blue Armour 4,439]

For all those who say luiz could be a good DM....

I think his forward runs have made people think that he'd make a great midfielder by default, but I disagree after seeing Phil jones performance against scousers because in my opinion, the thing that allows him to make those runs out of defence is that as soon as he steps out of defence, he gives us a man advantage in the opposition half. That's because the striker isn't going to track back and follow him all the way back. That means that he is given a free run in the opposition half as confusion arises among the defending team and nobody knows who's supposed to pick him up and track the run.

When he plays in midfield he's going to be up against an opposing midfielder who will mark and track him, and therefore his surging runs will be much tougher to pull off when he plays in midfield and has a man on him all the time.

Agreed

Good CDM also means he will need to pick passes on a consistent basis. There's no reason why he shouldn't be tried there like Mourinho did with Pepe, but I don't think it'll work well against the better sides..

[manpe 10,861]

For all those who say luiz could be a good DM....

I think his forward runs have made people think that he'd make a great midfielder by default, but I disagree after seeing Phil jones performance against scousers because in my opinion, the thing that allows him to make those runs out of defence is that as soon as he steps out of defence, he gives us a man advantage in the opposition half. That's because the striker isn't going to track back and follow him all the way back. That means that he is given a free run in the opposition half as confusion arises among the defending team and nobody knows who's supposed to pick him up and track the run.

When he plays in midfield he's going to be up against an opposing midfielder who will mark and track him, and therefore his surging runs will be much tougher to pull off when he plays in midfield and has a man on him all the time.

That's the point I've tried to make earlier. Granted, we could be wrong, but I trust in AVB to know what suits him the most... and we saw no sign from Ancelotti and haven't seen a sign from AVB to even think about it, nor did the staff at Benfica if I'm not wrong. I wonder if Ray Wilkins had been around after new year, because in commentary I think he said that he looks good to be a midfielder.. so he might have actually tried to persuade Ancelotti, but it wasn't to be. I still maintain he's the best as a flamboyant CB.

[Term-X 7,891]

Only just realised the club are selling these lmao, I thought the fans were just buying them from a wig store or something.

[Kojo 4,676]

It was a definite penalty, doesn't matter how soft it is, if you would give a free kick for it then it should be given as a penalty.

Just like last season with Zhirkov and Smalling, when we beat them 2-1, people said it wasn't a penalty but it was, it's soft but its a foul. People now days have it in there heads that you have to be injured in the box and there kegs brutally hacked for it to be a penalty, Luiz shouldn't if done it and hopefully he learns from it.

[Bear-Felix 16]

so is nobody going to point out that's ANOTHER rock solid performance by him in an against the odds type situation.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

My argument is - if that push is a foul, why wasn't Helguson's identical barge five seconds beforehand given as a foul first?

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I thought he was no better than average, and at fault for their goal, personally.

[warnie_666 1,081]

He is a liability at the back.

Failed to clear the ball that led to the penalty as turnbull couldn't do much

[LDN Blue 7,903]

He is a liability at the back.

Failed to clear the ball that led to the penalty as turnbull couldn't do much

I think Alex should've won it first. Caught Luiz by surprise..

[termninja 5,290]

He was alright. Solid is the word. Still, could've done better at the goal we conceded. His runs from defense are very good though. There was one awesome through ball to Ivanovic which he couldn't reach.

[Peace. 4,352]

^ Yes. Alex should have cleared the ball in the first time.

[blueblood22 50]

and the goal of saha from the head

[BlueLion. 21,491]

This thread should be renamed 'The List of Good Things and Bad Things by David Luiz,' which is what it has descended to.

[Henrique 9,133]

And now?

5 goals at home?

Is Terry - Ivanovic our best defence partnership? What about Terry stupid mistake when the game was 3-3?

[Peace. 4,352]

So far this season :

- 15 games played.

- Only 4 clean sheets ; against Stoke, Leverkusen, Fulham and Genk.

- 17 goals conceeded.

-> So, is Luiz the liability, is he clumsy ? No. The liability is our whole defense. And I still believe he is our best defender.

[Tomo 21,751]

Now can you all see the importance to David Luiz in our team?

[Hysteria 159]

Luiz should have played today.

[Henrique 9,133]

So far this season :

- 15 games played.

- Only 4 clean sheets ; against Stoke, Leverkusen, Fulham and Genk.

- 17 goals conceeded.

-> So, is Luiz the liability, is he clumsy ? No. The liability is our whole defense. And I still believe he is our best defender.

And only one in PL.

For me its not a coincidence that it happened when VB decided Terry-Ivanovic is our main defence.

Ivanovic should be right back. Terry-Ivanovic is an awful partnership, specially now that Terry keeps playing because of his name.

[Peace. 4,352]

Now can you all see the importance to David Luiz in our team?

Come on Tomo, he granted 5 goals to Arsenal today.

[Peace. 4,352]

Now can you all see the importance to David Luiz in our team?

On a serious note. He might give away stupid foul every now and then, but he is the best defender in our squad at the moment. The only problem, it is how he makes his fouls, indeed they are quite spectacular because of his enthusiams ; while other defender's fouls are "normal", I would say... Hence, people memorize his fouls more than other defenders' fouls, since they are more noticable.

But even if he is a bit clumsy, we should be ready to give away one goal because of him every now and then, in purpose to be rock solid 90% of the time. We should be ready to make some sacrifice. That's a bit similar with the stock market, you have to be ready to lose a bit of money to win more afterward.