robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 That goal was due to a world class cross, but if you're gonna blame players then do it fairly and properly.Ashley allowed the cross to be whipped in, Terry lost the header and Luiz didn't reach the follow up. All 3 are to blame. but that's football, it's a game of goals.agreed. In truth the defense got overwhelmed, which raises the question about the midfield, but if we go by the defensive mistakes alone, Terry lost the first header and then put David in on the wrong side of the striker. That type of ball is very difficult to defend against, but I wouldn't blame Terry either, because the cross was perfect.On other areas, I thought he was pretty good and Norwich manager obviously asked their striker to try and prevent David's runs.Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think every player in our defense was 1x1 against his marker. That's just asking to concede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 That goal was due to a world class cross, but if you're gonna blame players then do it fairly and properly.Ashley allowed the cross to be whipped in, Terry lost the header and Luiz didn't reach the follow up. All 3 are to blame. but that's football, it's a game of goals.Agree, but I'm pretty sure the cross came from the right, meaning Iva and not Ashley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Agree, but I'm pretty sure the cross came from the right, meaning Iva and not Ashley. My bad, it was such a sucker punch of a goal. The point still stands though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Agree, but I'm pretty sure the cross came from the right, meaning Iva and not Ashley. That goal was due to a world class cross, but if you're gonna blame players then do it fairly and properly.Ashley allowed the cross to be whipped in, Terry lost the header and Luiz didn't reach the follow up. All 3 are to blame. but that's football, it's a game of goals.Yes, it came from the right but Ivanovic was in the penalty box then and one of Mata or Oscar was tracking Olsson and didn't really put enough pressure on the cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Yes, it came from the right but Ivanovic was in the penalty box then and one of Mata or Oscar was tracking Olsson and didn't really put enough pressure on the cross.Yeah, it was Oscar: http://vimeo.com/76277491 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Yeah, it was Oscar: http://vimeo.com/76277491 Seems like it having looked at the players running on the near side. Couldn't tell before as that fella was running like Mata but look slight in frame like Oscar. And Mourinho won't like that from Oscar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 He was really good defensively today. People may argue but he is clearly the best defender when he is on his game like today and against steau bacharest for chelsea and it shows almost to the point of intimidating attackers to unforced errors. He is really aggressive on the pitch for a nice guy. The Skipper and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 He looked frightening today, Mourinho is making him a very very tough lad to play against. Never mind row z, he'll boot it out of the stadium if he needs to now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 I said under Jose this lad could be anything he wants, I still stand by that. I honestly think this lad will be one of the best centre backs in the world in the next two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Kinol 337 Posted October 12, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted October 12, 2013 DAAAAAAAAMMMMNNNN!!! Barbara, Beigl, vergil_sparda and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 World Class performance against S. Korea (friendly). Absolutely dominant with great interceptions. Dante looked like a simple good defender next to Luiz. Nothing wrong with that, but the difference in quality is evident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone 290 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 World Class performance against S. Korea (friendly). Absolutely dominant with great interceptions. Dante looked like a simple good defender next to Luiz. Nothing wrong with that, but the difference in quality is evident.Exactly what I thought. I don't wanna talk down on Dante because he's a great player but he looked average next to Luiz. David was intercepting every Korean attack. All these pundits can talk as much shit as they want, while he's out there captaining Brazil like a fucking boss. Beigl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lover Lover 18 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 DAAAAAAAAMMMMNNNN!!! Poor Neymar, reminds me of what Mata did to Raul Albiol lol Beigl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Dion, Jusek and James 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 At some point we are going to need to think about a long term partner in defense for David. Terry is playing very well this season, but eventually he is going to hit father time, we have to prepare for that eventuality and not wait for it to happen like we did for the likes of Malouda, Drogba and Anelka.Cahill is nothing more than a squad player and also add the fact his partnership with Luiz is horrific, so i guess it's down to how well Kalas does when he finally get game's, could he be the solution? do we bit by bit bleed JT out while bleeding Kalas in? or is the answer someone like Managla or Subotic? The Skipper and semiller1313 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 At some point we are going to need to think about a long term partner in defense for David. Terry is playing very well this season, but eventually he is going to hit father time, we have to prepare for that eventuality and not wait for it to happen like we did for the likes of Malouda, Drogba and Anelka.Cahill is nothing more than a squad player and also add the fact his partnership with Luiz is horrific, so i guess it's down to how well Kalas does when he finally get game's, could he be the solution? do we bit by bit bleed JT out while bleeding Kalas in? or is the answer someone like Managla or Subotic?We have time. We should give Kalas and Omerue a chance before we go and buy a top defender..not that there are many of those in the market, atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose M 140 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 At some point we are going to need to think about a long term partner in defense for David. Terry is playing very well this season, but eventually he is going to hit father time, we have to prepare for that eventuality and not wait for it to happen like we did for the likes of Malouda, Drogba and Anelka.Cahill is nothing more than a squad player and also add the fact his partnership with Luiz is horrific, so i guess it's down to how well Kalas does when he finally get game's, could he be the solution? do we bit by bit bleed JT out while bleeding Kalas in? or is the answer someone like Managla or Subotic?No need to worry Jose will get VARANE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 What's so funny? At some point we are going to need to think about a long term partner in defense for David. Terry is playing very well this season, but eventually he is going to hit father time, we have to prepare for that eventuality and not wait for it to happen like we did for the likes of Malouda, Drogba and Anelka.Cahill is nothing more than a squad player and also add the fact his partnership with Luiz is horrific, so i guess it's down to how well Kalas does when he finally get game's, could he be the solution? do we bit by bit bleed JT out while bleeding Kalas in? or is the answer someone like Managla or Subotic?We have time. We should give Kalas and Omerue a chance before we go and buy a top defender..not that there are many of those in the market, atm. We could move Ivanovic to CB then and provide time for Kalas and/or Omeruo to come through, though I doubt Mourinho is thinking of that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 We could move Ivanovic to CB then and provide time for Kalas and/or Omeruo to come through, though I doubt Mourinho is thinking of that..I have always preferred Ivanovic as a right back, like with Luiz in midfield, their is just something about Ivanovic as centre half that just doesn't sit right for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I have always preferred Ivanovic as a right back, like with Luiz in midfield, their is just something about Ivanovic as centre half that just doesn't sit right for me. Except Iva is originally a CB and was later moved to right back.Last season Luiz-Iva was our best CB pairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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