Atomiswave 6,119 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fernando said: Yes I think Iran was also smart. They did attack but made it so no casualty happens, as they don't want a war right now. Now the last problem remains, if Iran does go ahead full speed with the nuclear weapons? If they are smart again they will wait till Trump and Netanyahu are out of the view.... YEs I think it was a warning to not do this again or this time full scale war is coming. That they will bite back and can bite back. Iran will of course go nuclear now unless they all sit down like human beings and figure some kind of pact. Lift the sanctions and Peace will come. Iran has been more than willing to adhere but Trump threw it to the wind and here we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,589 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: YEs I think it was a warning to not do this again or this time full scale war is coming. That they will bite back and can bite back. Iran will of course go nuclear now unless they all sit down like human beings and figure some kind of pact. Lift the sanctions and Peace will come. Iran has been more than willing to adhere but Trump threw it to the wind and here we are. Apparently not going to happen, the sanctions more incoming: US knew Iranian missiles were coming ahead of strike; Trump announces new sanctions https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/01/08/us-officials-warned-missile-launch-iraq-bases-troops/2842200001/ Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, Fernando said: Apparently not going to happen: US knew Iranian missiles were coming ahead of strike; Trump announces new sanctions https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/01/08/us-officials-warned-missile-launch-iraq-bases-troops/2842200001/ Of course they knew and expected it, foolish otherwise. But intercepting them is another ball game. Iran also developed hypersonic missiles, there are videos of it if you search, those will be even harder to stop. Yup I heard he said new sanctions. Who is he since he decides whom gets sanctioned? When will US get sanctioned for ll the lives they have ruined through false flags and bogus wars? Both sides are fucking crazy. Despite Trumps claims of "Defence mechanism" THAAD and Patriot failed to stop a single missile, all targets got hit. i see most "US Hawks" call Trumps reaction (his speech calling now for diplomacy with Iran) after strike on its Military Base "weak" (allowed iran to ballistic missile strike US military bases) US ahead 1 general but Soleimani had very high US kill count (thousands of US troops according TRUMP) Trump now offers all those deaths forgotten for the price of soleimani. in his statement he called for "Partnership and diplomacy with the Iranian leaders" its clear he wants now a new start which is very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Iran acted smartly, and now both nations seem to have taken a step back and calmed down. Seems there will not be a full on war which is great news. Atomiswave, 11Drogba, Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 15 hours ago, manpe said: Iran acted smartly, and now both nations seem to have taken a step back and calmed down. Seems there will not be a full on war which is great news. Very good indeed, nothing but misery and contempt war. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,367 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 08/01/2020 at 11:43 AM, Vesper said: Boeing 737 plane bound for Kyiv crashes minutes after takeoff in Iran, killing all 180 on board https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/08/boeing-737-passenger-plane-crashes-in-iran-state-news-agencies-report.html And Trudeau just said they have a proof Iranian missile took plane down Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,367 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 What a revenge by Iran that was! First many died in stampede on funeral and now they killed their own citizens on the Ukrainian plane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,266 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: What a revenge by Iran that was! First many died in stampede on funeral and now they killed their own citizens on the Ukrainian plane yes, they are saying it was unintentional though still a horrid tragedy remember the US shot an Iranian passenger jet down years ago Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai via Bandar Abbas that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided-missile cruiser of the United States Navy. Wikipedia Date: July 3, 1988 Fatalities: 290 Survivor: 0 Operator: Iran Air Locations: Iran, Strait of Hormuz Atomiswave and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 What a clusterfuck They probably had their defenses on high alert after the attacks on US bases and it caused this mistake, is my theory. No way would they be stupid enough to do this deliberately I hope. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Vesper said: yes, they are saying it was unintentional though still a horrid tragedy remember the US shot an Iranian passenger jet down years ago Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai via Bandar Abbas that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided-missile cruiser of the United States Navy. Wikipedia Date: July 3, 1988 Fatalities: 290 Survivor: 0 Operator: Iran Air Locations: Iran, Strait of Hormuz And the US afterwards paid homage to those shooting the plane down. They got shiny new emblems etc, no regrets at all. I still have have doubt a rocket took the plane down in Iran, but you never know. Lets see what the blackbox reveals. But so so sad nonetheless, so avoidable. Trump played the almighty Card promising revenge if even 1 base was touched, Iran burned them up and now he wants diplomacy anf figuring something out.......why not this to begin with then? Tehy even gave the Iraqi's a heads.up that the attack was coming, cuz they respect their sovereignty.......thank god no more happened and RIP to those in the plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,266 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Iran admits shooting down Ukrainian airliner 'unintentionally' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/11/iran-admits-shooting-down-ukrainian-airliner-unintentionally Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Vesper said: Iran admits shooting down Ukrainian airliner 'unintentionally' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/11/iran-admits-shooting-down-ukrainian-airliner-unintentionally Lol @ still blaming USA for this. This retaliation campaign has been nothing but disastrous for Iran's global image, reinforcing their fame as terror state with the funeral stampede and downing a civilian plane. Horror show. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,589 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Vesper said: Iran admits shooting down Ukrainian airliner 'unintentionally' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/11/iran-admits-shooting-down-ukrainian-airliner-unintentionally So it's interesting that Trump said this way before Iran came to that conclusion. So how could Trump know that before hand? kellzfresh and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 now we know the reason, I demand SWIFT AND STRONG Punishment against the AA crew and the officer who OK´ed it. USA shot down our passenger plane in the past, so i could not believe it the same shit would happen to us..... very sad day I do not accept "Human error"..... this error is horrible and heads must roll ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, manpe said: Iran's global image What global image? It has its Allies thats it. The western powers and media sought to that. And if you take this horrible plane disaster away it was a good response. Trump promised if any bases were touched 52 targest would be hit, he did nothing of sorts and actually went 180....which is fantastic for everyone make no mistake. All this coud have been so avoidable man.........its like fucking age of empires. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 i just saw our respected Chief of staff and our useless politicians ( i fucking hate politicians ) made another statement. "Iran’s vows to ‘identify & prosecute’ all responsible for ‘disastrous mistake’ that led to Ukrainian jet downing" "Investigations continue to identify and prosecute this great tragedy and unforgivable mistake." “My thoughts and prayers go to all the mourning families,” the president said in another post, offering “sincerest condolences” over the tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 So it's interesting that Trump said this way before Iran came to that conclusion. So how could Trump know that before hand? I think they said that America has some weird satellite Pictures of the incident that showed that the airplane got hit by a Rocket or something like thatGesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 ISIS puppets thanking their Zionist overlords. (Trump and his Lord Netanyahu) "ISIS welcomes the death of Iran's Qaseem Soleimani and declare it an act of 'divine intervention' that will let them regroup in Iraq" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... eimani.htm Christians in Iraq and Syria are very angry about Soleimanis death by the way according Syrian and Iraqi christian leaders + Russian orthodox church and gov. "Iran Forces under Soleimani saved the lifes of up to 3 million Christians" + ofcourse the Nations of Iraq and Syria itself and its millions of Citizens. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,266 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 the US is fucked they are headed down the path to an eventual split-up by 2040 or sooner if certain things happen the the hyper-partisanship is now past levels where it can be walked back there is a crazed violence in most all of the rhetoric being used lead by the poison that is Trump you now have the POTUS pushing this type of hate for years the centre will not hold I have talked to hundreds (online and a few dozen in person) of his supporters they are beyond reason tens of millions of brainwashed and potentially ultra-violent dupes, shills, and rubes Fulham Broadway and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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