Politics & Stuff

[Unionjack 7,531]

So is impeachment a real possibility?

 

ELECTION BOMBSHELL: Trump 'could face criminal charges and removal from White House'

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/561047/donald-trump-criminal-charges-removal-from-white-house

[11Drogba 2,000]

[Yeboii 1,844]

9 hours ago, 11Drogba said:

Yeah like he is the first person in the world to change his opinion on something after 4 years...

[Captain Ahmed 528]

Hotwall Bling

[11Drogba 2,000]

2 hours ago, Yeboii said:

Yes he wants to be the first person in the world who has changed his opinion on everything.

Corrected.

[Yeboii 1,844]

1 minute ago, 11Drogba said:

Corrected.

lol this was nothing about Trump in particular. I was just pointing out how stupid it is to hold someone accountable for changing his opinion on something after 4 years.

[Spike 12,049]

The wall is ultimately a stupid idea but at least it'll bring a small economic bubble with all the manufacturing jobs and manual labour needed to build it. At the end of the day if it helps foster in more legal immigration over illegal immigration, then I suppose it has done it's job.

[kmk108 1,186]

5 minutes ago, Spike said:

The wall is ultimately a stupid idea but at least it'll bring a small economic bubble with all the manufacturing jobs and manual labour needed to build it. At the end of the day if it helps foster in more legal immigration over illegal immigration, then I suppose it has done it's job.

The wall is not going to be built. The cost to result ratio just doesn't work out. People will find a way into the country. Runners make too much money smuggling to just say, "Crap, a wall. I guess we're done." There's plenty of tunnels that drug smugglers use and if you find and close those, more will be dug.

People are estimating that it would cost, at minimum, $25 billion. Regardless of how big of a problem you think illegal immigration is, that is just way too much money that needs to be spent elsewhere.

And then there's this:

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Is a border wall is even necessary in the first place?

According to Pew Research, the undocumented immigrant population has been stable at just over 11 million for the last decade and has actually dropped since a peak of 12.2 million in 2007. “The unauthorized immigrant population rose rapidly during the 1990s and early 2000s, from an estimated 3.5 million in 1990 to a peak of 12.2 million in 2007. It then dropped sharply during the Great Recession of 2007-09, mainly because of a decrease in unauthorized immigrants from Mexico,” Pew Research says. 

While the U.S. has a better handle on illegal border crossings than Trump lets on or understands, he is also dead on wrong on how undocumented immigrants arrive in the U.S. in the first place. According to Politifact as well as The National Review, nearly half of all undocumented immigrants come by plane and overstay their visas. So, while everyone argues whether Trump will build his wall and who will pay for it, we should discuss whether it will make a difference in the first place.

https://www.good.is/articles/what-trumps-wall-looks-like

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

Looks like the Trump Swamp will need to be drained - all his family and pets given positions, in a  level of patronage not seen since ancient Rome or The Sopranos.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Cornel West is one the brightest minds around. This is so brilliant and spot on:

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The Bush and Clinton dynasties were destroyed by the media-saturated lure of the pseudo-populist billionaire with narcissist sensibilities and ugly, fascist proclivities. The monumental election of Trump was a desperate and xenophobic cry of human hearts for a way out from under the devastation of a disintegrating neoliberal order – a nostalgic return to an imaginary past of greatness.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/17/american-neoliberalism-cornel-west-2016-election

[iseah100 5,612]

 someone i know just sent me this, do people really believe immigration can solve poverty?

[lucio 5,418]

15 minutes ago, iseah100 said:

 someone i know just sent me this, do people really believe immigration can solve poverty?

all mass immigration will do , is make things worse in the host country.

it makes countries over crowded, over urban, nightmare for the enviroment.

best we can do is try to help them build up. as well as getting our own homeless into housing.

also some immigrant groups really don't fit in , and behave very badly. I got punched coming home from the library last night, and due to the situation, couldnt really do anything

but this is for europe, maybe things can be done diffrently in america

[lucio 5,418]

seriously fuck off, we don't need your "enrichment". Secure a job and come over fine, but  don't flood the country, and please leave your retarded desert religion and agressive behaviour behind

[Spike 12,049]

13 hours ago, iseah100 said:

 someone i know just sent me this, do people really believe immigration can solve poverty?

It's why a lot of people are pro-immigration. They don't realise that brain-drains affect a country adversely and they don't realise that nations have limited resources and can't handle massive population influx. Take your ancestral country for example; would it be better off with a doctor in Mexico, or a doctor in USA sending money to their family in Mexico. The latter is fantastic because there is a very skilled individual working hard, the latter is fantastic because it provides a higher income to a family that otherwise wouldn't. Really what is the better pay-off?

Immigration is a far more complex issue than a lot of people realise and simply packing bags and leaving can often be terrible. 

[cosmicway 1,333]

Well, if your country is captured by enemy forces or if a communist regime takes it over what else can you do ?
The passengers of St Louis in 1939 were turned back by the Americans and only those who made it to England in the end survived the war. Those who went to Belgium-Holland-France were captured later by the nazis and perished in the concentration camps.
But to the "John Birch society" types in America this was a small matter.
It's exactly the same in today's world.
There are some more who become immigrants because there are international agreements that allow them to do that.
When and if those agreements are placed in doubt and no longer hold -e.g. the NATO alliance- these people find themselves in a vacuum and are hounded by both sides.