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[CHOULO19 24,332]

On a different note, and I know most don't care anymore because it wasn't Muslim extremist terror, but the Munich attack is turning out to be a terrorist attack after all. Apparently the kid was obsessed with Hitler, believed in the supremacy of the Aryan race and aimed his attack particularly against Turks and Muslims whom he hated: http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.733723?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter 

Clearly there was a political and ideological motivation behind the attack = Terrorism. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,342]

48 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

On a different note, and I know most don't care anymore because it wasn't Muslim extremist terror, but the Munich attack is turning out to be a terrorist attack after all. Apparently the kid was obsessed with Hitler, believed in the supremacy of the Aryan race and aimed his attack particularly against Turks and Muslims whom he hated: http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.733723?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter 

Clearly there was a political and ideological motivation behind the attack = Terrorism. 

Yeah it was terror -but he was half Iranian -what do you expect ? 

Unfortunately Western states don't have the wherewithall to deal with the psychology of ISIS inspired attacks, ie the ability to change hearts and minds or ideologies. Therefore I fear the ISIS Muslim extremists will get what they want as attacks increase, and there will be retaliatory attacks on Muslims.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

15 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Yeah it was terror -but he was half Iranian -what do you expect ? 

Unfortunately Western states don't have the wherewithall to deal with the psychology of ISIS inspired attacks, ie the ability to change hearts and minds or ideologies. Therefore I fear the ISIS Muslim extremists will get what they want as attacks increase, and there will be retaliatory attacks on Muslims.

To use Frankie Boyle's joke, "they say we're losing the battle for the hearts and minds but whenever I hear about Iraq in the news all I see are hearts and minds splattered all over the place!"

I remember reading that in 2015 there was something like 3 attacks per day on average on mosques and Arab/Muslim cultural centers in France alone which is exactly what ISIS and Al Qaeda want. That's not speculation or analysis, they say they clearly that that is what they want in their media: to eliminate the 'grey zones' in Europe and the US where Muslims live peace with Western culture.

Just like Bin Laden wrote in his notes that the aim of the 9/11 attacks was to drag Nato into an unwinnable war in Afghanistan. You'd think those would make NATO members take a moment to reconsider their foreign policies in the middle east, but I guess it's true that when you have a hammer in your hand everything looks like a nail. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,342]

26 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

To use Frankie Boyle's joke, "they say we're losing the battle for the hearts and minds but whenever I hear about Iraq in the news all I see are hearts and minds splattered all over the place!"

I remember reading that in 2015 there was something like 3 attacks per day on average on mosques and Arab/Muslim cultural centers in France alone which is exactly what ISIS and Al Qaeda want. That's not speculation or analysis, they say they clearly that that is what they want in their media: to eliminate the 'grey zones' in Europe and the US where Muslims live peace with Western culture.

Just like Bin Laden wrote in his notes that the aim of the 9/11 attacks was to drag Nato into an unwinnable war in Afghanistan. You'd think those would make NATO members take a moment to reconsider their foreign policies in the middle east, but I guess it's true that when you have a hammer in your hand everything looks like a nail. 

Frankie - superb

There were numerous retaliatory attacks (mainly graffiti etc) after Charlie Hebdo , didn't realise it was that many.

Poverty and ignorance are soooo much to blame. ie Frances Muslims make up a sixth of the population, yet most live in squalid conditions. Not an excuse, but if they want half an explanation....They need to look at their own history ie 1789 Revolution like most fuelled by poverty and inequality.

On a separate note -Trump has asked Putin to release the emails that the Russians encrypted from Hilareeeee. Hilarious if they do....

 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

There were numerous retaliatory attacks (mainly graffiti etc) after Charlie Hebdo , didn't realise it was that many.

Poverty and ignorance are soooo much to blame. ie Frances Muslims make up a sixth of the population, yet most live in squalid conditions. Not an excuse, but if they want half an explanation....They need to look at their own history ie 1789 Revolution like most fuelled by poverty and inequality.

On a separate note -Trump has asked Putin to release the emails that the Russians encrypted from Hilareeeee. Hilarious if they do....

Apparently 429 attacks in 2015, more than 200 in the first 3 months of the year. I thought it was just graffiti and bacon or something, but just google 'Anti-Muslim attack in France' and you get several bombings of Mosques and many people getting killed on the streets and even in their homes just for being Muslim. Amazing how those don't even get reported. But most attacks are assaults on women wearing hijab because obviously they are the easiest targets.

A lot, if not most, of people, particularly young, feel disenfranchised and excluded from society today and we don't even try to find out what we are doing wrong. Sure, poverty is a factor, and that's universal. Here in Lebanon, all of those who joined jihadists in Syria or committed attacks on Lebanese soil are poor and come from extremely impoverished areas. But there's more to it, there's a whole system that's not working. Surprisingly, if you isolate people to get them focused on individualism so they would consume more, they're not going to feel part of a community.

This isn't really the same thing, but it's a bit related to the point I'm making: I was reading today some stats about how people view their image in the US and it's just beyond shocking. 66% of underweight 12 year old girls think they are "too fat", 80% of girls aged 18 say they are unhappy with their appearance. Same for boys, 38% of boys between 13 and 18 use protein supplements. That's tragic. That's an epidemic of lack of self-esteem. Just to sell a few 'beauty products.. 

I think we're in a desperate need to rethink what being part of community means.

[Fulham Broadway 17,342]

1 hour ago, CHOULO19 said:

Apparently 429 attacks in 2015, more than 200 in the first 3 months of the year. I thought it was just graffiti and bacon or something, but just google 'Anti-Muslim attack in France' and you get several bombings of Mosques and many people getting killed on the streets and even in their homes just for being Muslim. Amazing how those don't even get reported. But most attacks are assaults on women wearing hijab because obviously they are the easiest targets.

A lot, if not most, of people, particularly young, feel disenfranchised and excluded from society today and we don't even try to find out what we are doing wrong. Sure, poverty is a factor, and that's universal. Here in Lebanon, all of those who joined jihadists in Syria or committed attacks on Lebanese soil are poor and come from extremely impoverished areas. But there's more to it, there's a whole system that's not working. Surprisingly, if you isolate people to get them focused on individualism so they would consume more, they're not going to feel part of a community.

This isn't really the same thing, but it's a bit related to the point I'm making: I was reading today some stats about how people view their image in the US and it's just beyond shocking. 66% of underweight 12 year old girls think they are "too fat", 80% of girls aged 18 say they are unhappy with their appearance. Same for boys, 38% of boys between 13 and 18 use protein supplements. That's tragic. That's an epidemic of lack of self-esteem. Just to sell a few 'beauty products.. 

I think we're in a desperate need to rethink what being part of community means.

And the TC community  -which could quite easily be a microcosm of the wider community, complete with bonding, one upmanship, rivalry, and petty squabbles -though the cyberspace communities are different in that they allow anonymity, and aren't truly representative.

Capitalism thrives on people being individual units of consumption to maximise profit  -it will do, via corporate media whatever it can to divide and isolate people. Just thinking of a few things in my lifetime in the UK to exemplify this. During the 1980s there was a thriving rave scene with loads of free parties. We're talking 10 000s of people all getting along, dancing, and having common bonds. The govt cracked down with the Criminal Justice bill where it was illegal for for more than 20 people to be gathered together to listen to 'repetitive beats'. Corporate media, again talking about the UK, does whatever it can to divide people on the colour of their skin, sexual orientation, football team, age, gender, religion, etc, etc. Divide and Rule and you have malleable, self conscious, paranoid 'atoms of consumption'. People usually have more in common than differences, once you eradicate pre judging, and the acknowledgement that we're mainly working class, fucked over by a minority. And the recognition that they want us to fight amongst ourselves, if not pacified by 'bread and circuses'.

[cosmicway 1,333]

Terrorism is caused by the marginalisation of people.
If the state hurts me I won't respond in this way, but what do I know about the others ?
The 6th-7th person who is unjustly hurt may as well become a criminal or terrorist.

The islamic terror succeded but the left wing terror failed. No more "red brigades", RAF etc,etc but in the case of the islamists they had a very strong background - the Palestinian terror organisation. It's their offspring.

That's is what's happening, if you are not politically blinded.

Of course extreme measures are called for. Otherwise it's like attacking the enemy forces in a battle with flowers instead of guns.

But how are the home-grown nationalists handling it ?
They call for more race discrimination, directed against all and sundry.
There will be more violence as a result and evidently more repression in the next stage.
They say "let's go after the Mexicans". Mexico is a few tens of thousands of miles away from the M.E., they don't have a single Muslim citizen, but ... "now it's the chance to get them". Similar utterings are heard from the European counterparts against innocent-unconnected parties.
Don't say "come on, get off it" because it happens everyday, everywhere.
You supported "remain" and not "Brexit" ? You are in danger of losing your job and also be labelled a suspect.
It's just like I say and I won't take no for an answer.

In parallel, we have the leftist extremists.
Those are making plans for their own dictatorships, Venezuela style.

Both right wing extremists and left wing extremists are having a party when something like Nice happens.





 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,342]

You know there is no democracy when 324 million people have the stark choice between multi-millionaire serial liar Hilary, and a billionaire crooked orange murder clown....

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

On 7/27/2016 at 8:52 PM, Fulham Broadway said:

And the TC community  -which could quite easily be a microcosm of the wider community, complete with bonding, one upmanship, rivalry, and petty squabbles -though the cyberspace communities are different in that they allow anonymity, and aren't truly representative.

Capitalism thrives on people being individual units of consumption to maximise profit  -it will do, via corporate media whatever it can to divide and isolate people. Just thinking of a few things in my lifetime in the UK to exemplify this. During the 1980s there was a thriving rave scene with loads of free parties. We're talking 10 000s of people all getting along, dancing, and having common bonds. The govt cracked down with the Criminal Justice bill where it was illegal for for more than 20 people to be gathered together to listen to 'repetitive beats'. Corporate media, again talking about the UK, does whatever it can to divide people on the colour of their skin, sexual orientation, football team, age, gender, religion, etc, etc. Divide and Rule and you have malleable, self conscious, paranoid 'atoms of consumption'. People usually have more in common than differences, once you eradicate pre judging, and the acknowledgement that we're mainly working class, fucked over by a minority. And the recognition that they want us to fight amongst ourselves, if not pacified by 'bread and circuses'.

Superb post F.B.. The Tories did the same with picket lines where all your allowed is three or four official pickets which makes it look a bit like this.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

THE EU (EUROPEAN UNION) ANTICHRIST WEBSITE

THE ANTICHRIST - FALSE MESSIAH KINGDOM GOVERNANCE SYSTEM. 

[THE UNITED STATES OF EUROPE]

[THE ROMAN EMPIRE]

http://www.theeuantichrist.com/

this is why you are seeing the THE EU doing these massive changes in European Region.

the number 666 [18] is The Number of a Man (Human/Humans)

the number 616 [13] is The Number of the Beast/Mark of The Beast/MicroChip implantable RFID Chip (AntiChrist/False Messiah/Fallen Angels/Maitreya)

 

this is a screenshot of the website front page.

 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Fisk can be 'erratic' to say the least, but he sometimes absolutely nails it. This is one of those times (regarding Syria and Aleppo): http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/aleppo-siege-syria-assad-isis-srebrenica-kosovo-robert-fisk-west-won-t-go-to-war-a7171466.html 

[Fulham Broadway 17,342]

Just watched Corbyn v Smith hustings.

While Corbyn was fighting in Parliament against the Iraq war, Smith couldn’t make up his mind. While Jeremy Corbyn was fighting in Parliament to save the NHS from privatisation, Smith was pushing it from the other side of the corporate fence. While Jeremy Corbyn presented uncompromising opposition to austerity during the last Parliament, Smith wondered and wavered aloud whether it might be necessary.

Apart from that Smith comes across as an insincere fraud.

[Fulham Broadway 17,342]

1 hour ago, CHOULO19 said:

Fisk can be 'erratic' to say the least, but he sometimes absolutely nails it. This is one of those times (regarding Syria and Aleppo): http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/aleppo-siege-syria-assad-isis-srebrenica-kosovo-robert-fisk-west-won-t-go-to-war-a7171466.html 

Maidstone is a bit of a shit hole, but has produced a couple of gems, Fisk and even John Harley

[Fulham Broadway 17,342]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/15/man-dies-taser-shooting-by-police-in-telford-west-mercia

Now the cops killing black footballers...

[CHOULO19 24,332]

14 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/15/man-dies-taser-shooting-by-police-in-telford-west-mercia

Now the cops killing black footballers...

Ever notice how police are always murdered but ethnic minorities just 'die after an encounter with police'? 

[Fulham Broadway 17,342]

1 hour ago, CHOULO19 said:

Ever notice how police are always murdered but ethnic minorities just 'die after an encounter with police'? 

Witness said he was tasered several times, then the police just kept kicking him on the ground - yes ''encounter with the police''

Scored Goal of the Season

 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Witness said he was tasered several times, then the police just kept kicking him on the ground - yes ''encounter with the police''

Scored Goal of the Season

 

I remember that goal; used to be in a lot of adverts for the EPL in the late 90s.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

20 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/15/man-dies-taser-shooting-by-police-in-telford-west-mercia

Now the cops killing black footballers...

When we played Villa away in 1993 me and my mate (Villa fan from work) couldn't get in the Chelsea end it was packed and there was a massive crush so we thought fuck it lets go in the Holte End. By the time we got in Villa were one up I said to this kid '' Who scored the goal son?'' he said in the thickest Brummie accent I've ever heard Dalian Atkinson. The kid spent the next twenty minutes looking at me knowing full well I was Chelsea but didn't know whether to grass me up or not.

[Fulham Broadway 17,342]

1 hour ago, Iggy Doonican said:

When we played Villa away in 1993 me and my mate (Villa fan from work) couldn't get in the Chelsea end it was packed and there was a massive crush so we thought fuck it lets go in the Holte End. By the time we got in Villa were one up I said to this kid '' Who scored the goal son?'' he said in the thickest Brummie accent I've ever heard Dalian Atkinson. The kid spent the next twenty minutes looking at me knowing full well I was Chelsea but didn't know whether to grass me up or not.

Had a similar experience @1979-80 we lost 2-1 and about 80 of us were escorted out of the Holte along the pitch to the Chels mob

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

• Date 21.08.2016
• Related Subjects Germany
• Keywords Germany, war, disaster, interior ministry
•  
• Report: Germany to require citizens to stockpile supplies in case of catastrophe

A civil defense plan to be debated by the cabinet would require citizens to stockpile supplies in case of a catastrophe. The plan says people should prepare for an unlikely event that "could threaten our existence."

http://www.dw.com/en/report-germany-to-require-citizens-to-stockpile-supplies-in-case-of-catastrophe/a-19491176

 

For the first time since the end of the Cold War, the German government plans to encourage its citizens to prepare for a catastrophe or armed attack by stockpiling food, water and other supplies, the "Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung" reported on Sunday.

Citing the government's "Concept for Civil Defense" paper to be discussed by the cabinet on Wednesday, the government will require people to stock 10 days worth of food and five days of worth of drinking water.

The civil defense strategy would require citizens to have a sufficient supply of food, water, energy, money and medicine to wait out a period until the state would be able to initiate a response to a catastrophe or attack.

A spokesperson from the interior ministry declined to comment on the contents of the paper until a Wednesday press conference.

 

guys just incase something happens on Tuesday 30 August 2016 the Antichrist/False Messiah shows up on the world stage or a Live tv event broadcast Live.

I have known about this for many months but just incase something bad happens in the next week or so.

 

 

30 august 2016 antichrist

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=30+august+2016+antichrist