lucio 5,418 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Marriage gay now legal in all of USA.I wonder what will happen now to churches that don't believe in this?What will happen to them? Get closed down? Fine?probably gay couples wont get married in churches. but i cant see the problem with letting them be married there. it shouldnt be the church's concern if people are gay, just encourage fidelity. i dont recall anything in the gospels opposing gay relations (i could be wrong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 i dont recall anything in the gospels opposing gay relations (i could be wrong)There clearly is. And that's why they won't be marrying in churches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 probably gay couples wont get married in churches. but i cant see the problem with letting them be married there. it shouldnt be the church's concern if people are gay, just encourage fidelity. i dont recall anything in the gospels opposing gay relations (i could be wrong)Of course they will want to married at a church!Check this out.Not from a church but from a couple:Alliance Defending Freedom and one of its allied attorneys filed their opening brief Thursday in an appeal of a New York State Division of Human Rights decision against the owners of an upstate farm.The agency ruled that Cynthia and Robert Gifford were guilty of "sexual orientation discrimination" for declining to host and coordinate a same-sex ceremony on their property. As punishment, the government fined them $10,000 plus $3,000 in damages and ordered them to implement staff re-education training classes that teach the state's viewpoint on marriage."All Americans should be free to live and work according to their beliefs," said ADF Senior Counsel Byron Babione. "Our government was formed to be freedom's greatest protector, not its greatest threat. In this case, however, the government is coming after both this couple's freedom and their ability to make a living."This is the beginning. lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 There clearly is. And that's why they won't be marrying in churches.I don't think so , its mentioned in the ot , and by church writers in history , but nothing directly quoted from jesus as far as I know. I don't know why they treat it so seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I don't think so , its mentioned in the ot , and by church writers in history , but nothing directly quoted from jesus as far as I know. I don't know why they treat it so seriouslyJesus had many other problems to deal with ?But seriously if it's in the Bible, they take it seriously, regardless of who said it. lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 #LoveWins. Huge day in America's history. Days like today make me proud of this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Jesus had many other problems to deal with But seriously if it's in the Bible, they take it seriously, regardless of who said it.Only because it suits their intolerance and insecurity, it's in the same section as noting eating pork , not cutting you're beard and countless other things they probably haven't even read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Only because it suits their intolerance and insecurity, it's in the same section as noting eating pork , not cutting you're beard and countless other things they probably haven't even read.Your confusing ceremonial law vs morale law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidEU 2,023 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 #LoveWins. Huge day in America's history. Days like today make me proud of this country.Well done America. Now for the rest of the world. One day. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Feels so weird when people win...so not used to positive happy feelings when it comes to politics... iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Feels so weird when people win...so not used to positive happy feelings when it comes to politics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUMB 189 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 wow, not a single post about terrorist attacks in France, Tunis and Kuwait... Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 wow, not a single post about terrorist attacks in France, Tunis and Kuwait...Sadly there's so much terrorist attacks these days, that it has become normal news. So some happy news for former scrutinized people for a change iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 wow, not a single post about terrorist attacks in France, Tunis and Kuwait...Sometimes, people rather talk about what is good in the world as opposed to the what is wrong. There is so much focus on the wrong that sometimes people need to take a break.It is a monumentous day. 380,000,000 people all have the exact right and freedom to express their love for whomever they love. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUMB 189 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Sadly there's so much terrorist attacks these days, that it has become normal news. So some happy news for former scrutinized people for a change Sometimes, people rather talk about what is good in the world as opposed to the what is wrong. There is so much focus on the wrong that sometimes people need to take a break.It is a monumentous day. 380,000,000 people all have the exact right and freedom to express their love for whomever they love.Yeah, I can understand that, but I just can't ignore such tragedies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Yeah, I can understand that, but I just can't ignore such tragedies...In a sense, those are not 'events' anymore because it is an ongoing state of the world right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Shocked that there are people here who are actually cheering the result of the legalisation of gay marriage by the court. Regardless of whether you support it or not, the real concern here is how they've yet again undermined the value of democracy! They are basically robbing people of the freedom to govern themselves! The court shouldn't be deciding whether to legalise it or not but instead it should be the state governments that look after it themselves and vote on it! If anything you could also argue that by doing this you are undermining the 1st amendment which protects religious freedom.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeleryFC 373 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Shocked that there are people here who are actually cheering the result of the legalisation of gay marriage by the court. Regardless of whether you support it or not, the real concern here is how they've yet again undermined the value of democracy! They are basically robbing people of the freedom to govern themselves! The court shouldn't be deciding whether to legalise it or not but instead it should be the state governments that look after it themselves and vote on it! If anything you could also argue that by doing this you are undermining the 1st amendment which protects religious freedom....A pretty overwhelming majority of Americans support gay marriage though, and they're not really encroaching on anyone's freedoms. Straight people are still free to not get gay married. Stingray and iseah100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito 459 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Shocked that there are people here who are actually cheering the result of the legalisation of gay marriage by the court. Regardless of whether you support it or not, the real concern here is how they've yet again undermined the value of democracy! They are basically robbing people of the freedom to govern themselves! The court shouldn't be deciding whether to legalise it or not but instead it should be the state governments that look after it themselves and vote on it! If anything you could also argue that by doing this you are undermining the 1st amendment which protects religious freedom....How does it undermine the 1st amendment? That is separation of church and state. If the reason you believe that gay marriage should be illegal for everyone is because it's against your religion, then that is the opposite of separation of church and state. (That is the reason I've heard most often as to why it shouldn't be legal). I believe gay people should have the same rights as me no matter what. Even if the majority of people in the USA were against its legalization, that doesn't mean that's what the government should do. That's called tyranny of the majority. All people deserve equal rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 wow, not a single post about terrorist attacks in France, Tunis and Kuwait...Yes. The religions of peace, Islam and Christianity .If it were Americans, Australians killed would be more posts I think. dUMB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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