Politics & Stuff

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Yes ridiculous - has he gone back into comedian mode ? It would be a nuclear holocaust. 

I would have thought Israel might help him out, but they havent even condemned the invasion

It could n't have been a nuclear holocaust.
Don't be silly.
However NATO let it be known in advance they were not going to intervene. That makes it strange why he did not agree to at least this Russian demand, to stay out of NATO.

Still, I wonder if NATO are scared kittens nowadays.
 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,326]

4 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Don't be silly.

Lol

 

4 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

It could n't have been a nuclear holocaust.

So NATO does what Zelensky wants and creates a No Fly Zone. The Russians ignore it. NATO shoots down Russian planes....which bit of escalation dont you understand ?

[cosmicway 1,333]

8 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Lol

 

So NATO does what Zelensky wants and creates a No Fly Zone. The Russians ignore it. NATO shoots down Russian planes....which bit of escalation dont you understand ?

Look there is one thing we say in Greece:
Liberty comes before peace.
What we have here resembles a Korea situation rather than nuclear war. We are not attacking Russia so the chance for that sort of escalation
is 0.00001% and Putin bluffed us with an empty hand.
On the other hand given that Biden stated from the beginning there was going to be no NATO intervention, I find it strane Zelensky did n't
drop his NATO plans (but maybe this was not going to avert the invasion).

Edited March 5, 2022 by cosmicway

[Fulham Broadway 17,326]

6 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Look there is one thing we say in Greece:
Liberty comes before peace.
What we have here resembles a Korea situation rather than nuclear war. We are not attacking Russia so the chance for that sort of escalation
is 0.00001% and Putin bluffed us with an empty hand.
On the other hand given that Biden stated from the beginning there was going to be no NATO intervention, I find it strane Zelensky did n't
drop his NATO plans (but maybe this was not going to avert the invasion).

I dont think you read the post I was replying to but never mind

[cosmicway 1,333]

2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I dont think you read the post I was replying to but never mind

We were bluffed.

[DH1988 1,348]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Yes ridiculous - has he gone back into comedian mode ? It would be a nuclear holocaust. 

I would have thought Israel might help him out, but they havent even condemned the invasion

The whole flirting with Nato prior to this should simply not have happened, I condemn what's happening today absolutely but I find it short sighted and a distasteful to champion Zelensky as a hero to be quite honest. Asking for whomever to stay and fight, no, leave and stay alive then at least its a chance to come back one day, who knows. Nato sold Ukraine down the river, and they were naive enough to believe otherwise prior to this.

[NikkiCFC 8,331]

Well done Elon. If there are more people like this. 

I tried to watch Russia Today last week and it does look like total propaganda but you cannot ban it. Just like Trump getting banned from Twitter was disgrace.

It does not matter if it is all lies you just cannot do it. Just like on this forum person was banned for sharing some YT videos about Covid and Fauci. Free speech over everything!

[Fernando 6,585]

17 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

The whole flirting with Nato prior to this should simply not have happened, I condemn what's happening today absolutely but I find it short sighted and a distasteful to champion Zelensky as a hero to be quite honest. Asking for whomever to stay and fight, no, leave and stay alive then at least its a chance to come back one day, who knows. Nato sold Ukraine down the river, and they were naive enough to believe otherwise prior to this.

I agree and there's nothing that can be done. Sadly Ukraine is another Syria. It will turn like that total heap of ruins. There's no way Ukraine can survive long like this. Maybe a month max. Leader should just call retreat and give up control because they will be slaughtered all of them. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,326]

1 hour ago, DH1988 said:

The whole flirting with Nato prior to this should simply not have happened, I condemn what's happening today absolutely but I find it short sighted and a distasteful to champion Zelensky as a hero to be quite honest. Asking for whomever to stay and fight, no, leave and stay alive then at least its a chance to come back one day, who knows. Nato sold Ukraine down the river, and they were naive enough to believe otherwise prior to this.

Zelensky, Trump, Johnson, Biden, Putin there seems a real deficit in all of them - time to get rid of 'leaders' ?

Autonomous Collective - Bing video

[Vesper 30,206]

 

 

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/03/05/a-pro-putin-trucker-convey-is-heading-for-the-white-house.html

QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine and that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories.

[Vesper 30,206]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Trump getting banned from Twitter was disgrace.

no, that was completely valid, he was trying to illegally overthrow the orderly transfer of power

The yank 1st Amendment is not a national suicide pact, sorry

Edited March 5, 2022 by Vesper

[Fulham Broadway 17,326]

Huge surge in Sino-Russian trade stocks as Russia does more and more trade deals with China.

Not sure Putin is that bothered about Western sanctions

[Fernando 6,585]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Huge surge in Sino-Russian trade stocks as Russia does more and more trade deals with China.

Not sure Putin is that bothered about Western sanctions

Of course this was coming. Russia ain't stupid. They was not going to do a lone. And China is not stupid they was waiting for a while to see if anyone intervene military. 

Now that nothing happened China will start been more active. 

Like I said the people of Ukraine ain't going to survive this if they keep this up. They need to surrender and let all his people flee as much as they can. They will be slaughter and no one will su anything because they are all scared because of a potential "nuclear war" 

 

[DH1988 1,348]

Evacuate, Black Sea consolidation, power plant control and then push the refugees West-ward, let Europe deal with the fall out. Seems to be the picture at the moment.

One thing that I cannot stand is people speaking out on twitter and parliament etc if you're that bothered, off you pop onto your private jet to Ukraine. Ukraine is saying that US is obligated to use military support as part of security measures, unfortunately not the case, sold down the river. Once again, I condemn what is happening, there is shared blame here in terms of politics and civilian pawns caught up in it, same as is littered through our human history. I haven't seen Yemen in the news or the Premier league changing colours or supporting Yemeni.

The US, what a midas touch they have for foreign policy.

[Fernando 6,585]

42 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

Evacuate, Black Sea consolidation, power plant control and then push the refugees West-ward, let Europe deal with the fall out. Seems to be the picture at the moment.

One thing that I cannot stand is people speaking out on twitter and parliament etc if you're that bothered, off you pop onto your private jet to Ukraine. Ukraine is saying that US is obligated to use military support as part of security measures, unfortunately not the case, sold down the river. Once again, I condemn what is happening, there is shared blame here in terms of politics and civilian pawns caught up in it, same as is littered through our human history. I haven't seen Yemen in the news or the Premier league changing colours or supporting Yemeni.

The US, what a midas touch they have for foreign policy.

Not only that, but US as well Europe continues to buy oil. And last time I check it was 116 barrel. Meaning they are paying more to Russia for oil. 

The hipocrisy of the world with their righteous stand while dealing with the enemy under the table.....

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,326]

'I am sick and tired of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell.'

from the American Civil War General William Tecumseh Sherman 

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

Edited March 8, 2022 by Blues Forever

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

Chelsea Football Club was sanctioned and frozen, so that means the invasion in Ukraine is over right?

[Fernando 6,585]

Chevron CEO announces Israel gas pipeline could supply Europe

Europe’s natural gas shortage, which has propelled prices to multi-year highs, has renewed talk of the EastMed pipeline – a Mediterranean Sea pipeline that could carry gas from Israel to European customers, Chevron Chief Executive Michael Wirth said on Monday at the CERAWeek energy conference.

Wirth downplayed concerns over global oil supplies amid the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war and the subsequent potential for an energy crisis.

The EastMed pipeline, meant to transfer natural gas from Israeli waters to Europe via Greece and Cyprus, was announced in 2016, and several agreements have been signed between the three countries on the subject.

The three states aimed to complete the €6 billion project by 2025, but no financing has been attained for it.

Last January, the US informed Israel, Greece and Cyprus that they no longer favored the proposed EastMed natural-gas pipeline from Israel to Europe citing the need to “(allow) for future exports of electricity produced by renewable energy sources, benefiting nations in the region.”

The pipeline’s viability, however, could be reexamined amid worries that a new energy crisis is looming as Russian energy imports are sanctioned and even subject to being prohibited. Brent Crude breached $130 a barrel on Monday, having risen over 30% since mid-February.

The EastMed pipeline is not the only new energy initiative being developed in Israel.

The European Union committed 657 million euros ($732 million) to connect the electricity networks of Cyprus and Greece in January, which was panned as the first step in forming the EuroAsia interconnector – which will eventually link the power grids of Israel, Cyprus, Greece and Europe. Further, the Karish gas field will connect to the Israel National Gas Line, the CEO announced in March

 

https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/03/09/chevron-ceo-announces-israel-gas-pipeline-could-supply-europe/

 

This is interesting to me because this is what I speculated could happen. If the world stops buying from Russia, they will need another big time supplier. And that it would be Israel. 

I do expect this to happen and Israel to start supplying gas to Europe. 

This in turn will put Russia eye on Israel to eventually come and attack them for their natural resources. 

[Vesper 30,206]

Looks like Iran is very possibly attacking the yanks in Iraq to distract for Putin

 

BREAKING: Reported Ballistic Missile Attack Near U.S. Base in Erbil, Iraq

 

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44728/breaking-reported-ballistic-missile-attack-near-u-s-base-in-erbil-iraq

Edited March 13, 2022 by Vesper