The European Leagues & Competitions Thread V2

[Vesper 28,770]

4 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

What was the board supposed to do? KDB wanted to leave because Mou did not play him and KDB knew how good he was, so he asked the board to leave. You can´t force a player to stay when he does not want to play here. Mou wanted Frank to play as a starter, even though he was not even in his prime anymore. Mou fucked it up big time. I highly doubt that KDB would have improved under Mou any way because he completely lost his confidence in Mou era. I remember him playing after months of not playing in a Leage or FA Cup match against a low level team and he was really bad. He could not even make a normal pass due to the fact that he never played and had no match fitness. Coaches like Klopp or Pochettino would have made him world class players, but Mou wanted to play an experienced player like Frank instead of KDB

do you think Klopp and/or Poch could turn Bakayoko into a really decent player?

[Special Juan 27,424]

It won't be on TV in my house, I will be watching a documentary or something.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Yep, it hurts either way no matter who win it. Don't think I will bother to watch the match though. The match that 100% guaranteed to make you feel sick, better to skip that for your health. So I will just come back after the match to laugh at the loser one, regardless, hahaha. Good luck to Chelsea fans who dare to watch it. 

[killer1257 3,282]

Just now, Vesper said:

do you think Klopp and/or Poch could turn Bakayoko into a really decent player?

Actually, when I see some of the Pool players, I don´t think that players like Milner or Henderson are world class players, but when I see them play under Klopp, I think that they give 100 % of their passion and Klopp plays them in a system where they can shine and to be honest, they are really decent players. I never rated Milner nor Henderson, but they are class and extremly important to their team.I also think that Klopp makes them believe that they are world class players. He always motivates them and it paid off.

About Bakoyoko, football depends a lot about mentality and Klopp and Poch give their players confidence to believe in themselves. Coaches like Mou,Sarri and Conte often just bash their own players. Mou always criticised RLC for playing bad, Sarri criticised CHOs performances (he never criticisedWillian...) and Conte indirectly bashed Morata for not scoring enough. Morata for instance is not a bad player. He actually has almost every physical ability to be a top player apart from strenght. He is fast, has height and he has very good technical attributes, but he did not have confidence, so he fucked up every big chance he got. I don´t think that Morata in PL would have become world class, but he could have been a really decent player and could have scored way more und a coach like Klopp who would have made him believe that he is special. So I think that Bakoyoko could be a really decent player in a system where he runs his ass of, tackles everyone fairly and concentrates on making simple passes. He will never be Xavi as a player, but he can make sometimes his Monaco runs where he dribbled past three to four people and make a simple pass to Lemar etc. Under Sarri, Bakoyoko has no chance because Bakoyoko can not play as a Jorginho, but under Klopp or Pochettino, why not.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

4 hours ago, RoyalBlues said:

Depends on City result, if they manage to win the league, think my dark side would love to see Spurs win the CL just to see the scum ended up trophyless once again after all the international hype two days ago. It would shut the bunch of most arrogant living beings up and biased media all around. And yes think it will hurt us more, but the rest of the world is saved at least, as everybody know they are doing Porto there and won't repeat that ever again in decades. Fuck both of them though. And fuck me for wishing Spurs to win it. 

I feel for the UK based lads in here, but I'm on the same side as you and for my mental sanity I hope Spurs beat the Scouse scum. 

Spurs are irrelevant in Romania, I mean not even that, they simply do not exist, even sewer rats are higher in the pecking order than Spurs. 

Spurs won last night, ok they talked a bit about it and then went back to the miracle of Anfield and the marvelous Klopp and this Liverpool team full of serial winners blah blah 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Liverpool is a cult here, the media wankfest is similar to the UK one, all the pundits love them, their fans are all over the TV and now everybody hopes City fuck up vs Brightonat the week end so that Liverpool win the title because 'they deserve it'. The biggest Sports channel in Romania that does not even broadcast EPL (Eurosport does) can't stop licking Liverpool's arse since two nights ago. 

It's horrible, the cult created around this club, it would be insuferable if they win it. Should Spurs do it, they would probably write some news just for the sake of filling their air time and that is it. 

[Special Juan 27,424]

I refused to click any sport links yesterday, press on any relevant apps that would take me to reading anything football related to do with Liverpool, and the same applies today.

I will watch the mighty Chels tonight, but as far as football goes outside of that, it can go fuck itself.

 

 

[manpe 10,861]

It will suck whoever wins, so I'm just hoping for a good and exciting, dramatic match. If I had to choose now though, I'd pick Liverpool  Just so we'd stay the only team in London to have won it, plus pool have already won it before so it's nothing new, spurs however would stay trophyless  But as a fan of football first, I want a cracking game.

[killer1257 3,282]

3 minutes ago, Mana said:

Spuds winning the CL will end our "The only London club to win the top European title/CL". We can't say that no more. It'll be the end. Spuds will also equal the number of CL wins with us. Winning the CL for Spuds will also boost their fanbase across the world. Their first trophy in over a decade, and to bring that trophy home in their new stadium they just launched. The parades (it'll be worse for Arsenal though). They will no longer be seen as a small club.

They cannot win that CL under any circumstances.

They deserve it more than Pool. Pochettino made zero investmens and made it into the CL  final. It is not their fault that we, as Chelsea, do not perform any more.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

11 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Wouldn't be at all surprised if Liverpool fans get English teams banned from Europe for five years again.

Got to say FB I despise both teams but if Spurs lose past history tells us that it's their fans who will cause trouble. I've posted about this before but I grew up a couple of miles from Wembley and went to school in Harlesden so everytime there was a big game we'd bunk in it was a piece of piss.

Spurs played Liverpool in the Milk Cup final and for once security was tight and we could only get in when they opened the gates 15 minutes before the end the game went to extra time Liverpool winning 3-1. Obviously the scousers stayed in the ground celebrating but outside anyone and I mean anyone who happened to be wearing just red not Liverpool tops or scarves were set upon by hundreds of yids and that's not an exaggeration. As you know mate Chelsea had a terrible reputation but they would never stoop so low to attack lone fans and families.

As we were walking back to the tube station one of my mates was about 30 yards in front of us he had a wedge haircut very popular with Scousers. He called me over and said have you got a light for these blokes who were sitting in a car when they heard our accents one of them said '' It's ok lads we thought you were scousers if you see any of them give them some of this'' and this bloke in the back pulled out a massive blade. We were 15 years old what sort of fucking animals think it's ok to carve up schoolboys wherever their from. Hated Tottenham then despised them ever since especially when they knocked us out of the cup the following year.

[killer1257 3,282]

Just now, Mana said:

I don't care?

Liverpool winning it will be much better for Chelsea Football Club. Even though that is also bad, but the biggest puddle of poison will happen at Merseyside and not in London.

And Pool winning it would make world wide media sooo happy and I don´t want that to happen. You can ask 99.9 % of germans that watch football  and they will tell you that they love Pool and I fucking hate that. They don´´t even watch that much PL, but they love them still because they believe that they have culture etc. In german DAZN, the german commentators wanted to win Pool so bad in the first leg and they did not want Barcelona to win.

Nobody cares about Spurs in Germany and probably more or less world wide, but they did world class job at building a world class team in recent years. It is more or less Pochettino´s work and it has to get more credit. Spending zero money in players and instead investing into a top stadium and still going to the CL final just shows that a world class coach that stands for longevity can do to a  club.Chelsea should learn a lot and maybe copy some of the things Spurs did in recent years. They want longevity. We want short term success.

 

 

[killer1257 3,282]

Just now, Mana said:

Liverpool has built its fanbase over the years. This is always going to happen. Liverpool are too strong right now. If they don't win it this year, they'll have another chance next year with the league or CL. This is the 2nd season in a row they reached the final. 

Errrr? That's because currently Spuds are a bunch of nobodies? And you wanna know why? Because they haven't won a European trophy or title for over 50 years! Like I earlier, with the new stadium and them having that CL trophy will feel like a "relaunch" of Spuds. That trophy will send a message across the world that you should start supporting Spuds. Top players will start looking at Spuds. You'll see Spuds fans slowly grow in your country. FFS, our fanbase grew larger with our CL win. You don't think the same won't happen to Spuds?!

Anyway, again I don't give a flying monkeys about Poch's hard work. He works for Spuds. If this was United, City, Everton or Wolves you have a case but this is fecking Spuds. You do know most Chelsea fans hate Spuds right? Why do we keep chanting "We hate Tottenham" every game?!

I hate Tottenham too, but I would love to have players like Son (way better than Willian), Lucas (way better than Willian) or Eriksen (way better than Jorginho). I hate their club, but some of their players and especially their coach deserve it. I would fucking love to have Pochettino here instead of Sarri. When Spurs start having more money, they will be a new force in PL and we will struggle with that.

World wide, their fan base will grow regardless because of that night yesterday and the fact that they stand in the final. Our Fan base probably grew when we won CL, but not in Germany because everyone supports Bayern .We are probably the most hated PL team in Germany, maybe in the world, even though Pool or City invest as much and sometimes even more than we do...

In a perfect world, Barcelona or Ajax would have won the CL final, but now it is a match between two clubs I hate. BUT I hate Pool more than Spurs. Nobody cares when Pool spends millions of pounds. Everyone hates when we spend 150 mio. in a season. Pool will be a completely new force and will be the new Real Madrid/Barcelona of the world. I don´t want that to happen. I hated it when Real won the CL three times in a row and Pool has the potential to go on that streak too. I don´t want that to happen...

[Fulham Broadway 16,831]

46 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Got to say FB I despise both teams but if Spurs lose past history tells us that it's their fans who will cause trouble. I've posted about this before but I grew up a couple of miles from Wembley and went to school in Harlesden so everytime there was a big game we'd bunk in it was a piece of piss.

Spurs played Liverpool in the Milk Cup final and for once security was tight and we could only get in when they opened the gates 15 minutes before the end the game went to extra time Liverpool winning 3-1. Obviously the scousers stayed in the ground celebrating but outside anyone and I mean anyone who happened to be wearing just red not Liverpool tops or scarves were set upon by hundreds of yids and that's not an exaggeration. As you know mate Chelsea had a terrible reputation but they would never stoop so low to attack lone fans and families.

As we were walking back to the tube station one of my mates was about 30 yards in front of us he had a wedge haircut very popular with Scousers. He called me over and said have you got a light for these blokes who were sitting in a car when they heard our accents one of them said '' It's ok lads we thought you were scousers if you see any of them give them some of this'' and this bloke in the back pulled out a massive blade. We were 15 years old what sort of fucking animals think it's ok to carve up schoolboys wherever their from. Hated Tottenham then despised them ever since especially when they knocked us out of the cup the following year.

Yes Iggy agree we were no angels, but Sp*rs and scousers seemed to reach new depths of depravity attacking little kids and even OAPs. Think I told you about Sp*rs Chelsea in the 80s when walking along Seven sisters Road there was a father and his little kid bedecked in scarves and some brave Sp*rs fans stood outside a pub decided to pour beer over the six year olds head then punch the dad when he protested.

With this final I suppose we have to look on the positive and think one of the horrible cunts will lose. If I had a gun to my head I would want the dippers, purely because it means we are still the only LONDON club to win it.

[Atomiswave 6,072]

13 hours ago, Tomo said:

If there's one positive that can come out of this from our side is that a team one game away from finishing below us has made the final.

So this team with a top quality LB and ST should be looking at making a deep run in the CL next year.

Sadly it never ever works that way.

12 hours ago, milka said:

Yep 

Come back 

Just look at that freaking first 11 man.....all World class, passion and fight. That team right there would eat Liverpool up if the refs are fair.

Barca are useless......Ajax bottled it with their tactics in second half and showed they are too young to have the balls needed to see the game out. I will not watch the final, why the fuck would I , I detest both with a passion. Fuck both these cunts and fuck our board for letting us go so backwards that we have to endure such travesty.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Im afraid from sunday...

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

44 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Yes Iggy agree we were no angels, but Sp*rs and scousers seemed to reach new depths of depravity attacking little kids and even OAPs. Think I told you about Sp*rs Chelsea in the 80s when walking along Seven sisters Road there was a father and his little kid bedecked in scarves and some brave Sp*rs fans stood outside a pub decided to pour beer over the six year olds head then punch the dad when he protested.

With this final I suppose we have to look on the positive and think one of the horrible cunts will lose. If I had a gun to my head I would want the dippers, purely because it means we are still the only LONDON club to win it.

Same as mate Liverpool for me Hobson's choice I'm afraid 

[Tomo 21,733]

28 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Sadly it never ever works that way.

Unfortunately the two best teams in Europe right now are City and Liverpool, and we competed well with both four times out of five this season.

With good signings and the right loanees brought back we should be looking at a good run in the tournament, the quality in the competition isn't half as daunting as a few years ago.

[Laylabelle 9,351]

8 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Unfortunately the two best teams in Europe right now are City and Liverpool, and we competed well with both four times out of five this season.

With good signings and the right loanees brought back we should be looking at a good run in the tournament, the quality in the competition isn't half as daunting as a few years ago.

Let's just hope we can make those signings....cause if we play the way we have this season so many times it'll be short and sweet. Quality may be daunting but our quality at times is woeful. 

Need to go furthur then the last 16! Haven't managed that since 2014.

Be nice hearing the music again... 

[Atomiswave 6,072]

26 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Unfortunately the two best teams in Europe right now are City and Liverpool, and we competed well with both four times out of five this season.

With good signings and the right loanees brought back we should be looking at a good run in the tournament, the quality in the competition isn't half as daunting as a few years ago.

Yeah the overall quality has been not so good, but you can be sure the big Clubs will for sure be back stronger next season. We need alot to compete......if the ban allows us that is, otherwise we will be fucked.