Ruben Loftus-Cheek

[Special Juan 28,124]

Sell him, so unbelievably over rated and lazy.

[bohops 7]

21 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Sell him, so unbelievably over rated and lazy

 

His best quality is carrying the ball from deep, but no manager will play him there because he's a liability on D. 

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Down the Shelvey path.

[DANILA 290]

He was so good under Sarri  Feel like he needs the right manager and system and he can excel

[Puliiszola 519]

5 hours ago, DANILA said:

He was so good under Sarri  Feel like he needs the right manager and system and he can excel

With Puli and Ziyech back, we will definitely revert to a 4-3-3. And formation and system will get the best out of him. I still have faith that RLC will come good.

Definitely wont judge him off a game where he was played as a 2nd striker whose main purpose was to win aerial balls and knock them down for werner. 

[Jase 43,479]

27 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

With Puli and Ziyech back, we will definitely revert to a 4-3-3. And formation and system will get the best out of him. I still have faith that RLC will come good.

Definitely wont judge him off a game where he was played as a 2nd striker whose main purpose was to win aerial balls and knock them down for werner. 

Am not sure if there's any guarantee we will play 4-3-3 in the long run. Lampard already has a penchant of constantly changing formation. 

He could have easily played 4-3-3 yesterday for example - had the players for it despite some absentees - but chose not to and went with 4-2-3-1 instead.

[Puliiszola 519]

47 minutes ago, Jason said:

Am not sure if there's any guarantee we will play 4-3-3 in the long run. Lampard already has a penchant of constantly changing formation. 

He could have easily played 4-3-3 yesterday for example - had the players for it despite some absentees - but chose not to and went with 4-2-3-1 instead.

I think the 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-4 rather might have had to do with having jorgi and alonso on the pitch at the same time. If we played 4-3-3 with Kante pushing up ahead and jorgi having to deal with troussard's pace while alonso against lamptey, we would have been burned. It would have been a case of "did not we learn anything from last season". RLC himself is not that good a defender (as a CM). I think 4-3-3 will be our primary formation, and RLC will come good (and this is based on nothing but faith - bordering on blind faith as he just has not shown anything to support that argument).

[Jase 43,479]

14 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

I think the 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-4 rather might have had to do with having jorgi and alonso on the pitch at the same time. If we played 4-3-3 with Kante pushing up ahead and jorgi having to deal with troussard's pace while alonso against lamptey, we would have been burned. It would have been a case of "did not we learn anything from last season". RLC himself is not that good a defender (as a CM). I think 4-3-3 will be our primary formation, and RLC will come good (and this is based on nothing but faith - bordering on blind faith as he just has not shown anything to support that argument).

If everyone is fit and available, will Loftus-Cheek even be in the starting XI, even if we play 4-3-3? This is not on you but rather making a general point - I know he came back from a serious injury last season but that was some months ago already. At what point do we say "he has to perform now or he can't be in the XI"? I don't think he has done anything whatsoever since he returned to suggest "yeah, he needs to be in the starting XI". Last night's formation may not have helped his cause, for example, but he was totally useless off the ball, barely tracked back, and did zilch when he had the ball. Even Havertz, who is hardly known for his workrate, showed more desire and actually did more to track back. Also starting to wonder that managers must have had (have in Lampard's case) a good reason to constantly shift Loftus-Cheek around and/or not play him in midfield in the past. 

[killer1257 3,282]

Just loan him out and see if he gets better after one season.

Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk

[Unionjack 7,531]

I was hoping he had sharpened his ice skates but the lad looks totally broken. I was watching him and he was looking round as if to way WTF is going on? Looked like hed been hitting the balloons! Why did he come back out in 2nd half? Just so FL didn't upset him? Maybe he needs upsetting? Or at least getting some home truthes. Like you need to pull yer bloody sox up lad!.

[Atomiswave 6,117]

Loan him out, he aint getting better like this. Was supremely frustrating last night.....imo he is done at top level, he aint 19 anymore, now is the chance to prove yourself.

[Special Juan 28,124]

He needs to be out of FL thinking for the foreseeable future or until we at least play Carabao Cup again.

[NikkiCFC 8,294]

2 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Loan him out, he aint getting better like this. Was supremely frustrating last night.....imo he is done at top level, he aint 19 anymore, now is the chance to prove yourself.

No point in loan imo. One of RLC or Barkley was always extra now with Kai. If we get good offer for one of them just sell. We can probably get 35m.

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

Would sell him and keep Barkley (never thought Id say that). That's how bad he was the other night. I know its one game but even last season and looking at this squad, he just doesnt fit. Is he a 10? No. He played in a 3 with Sarri and looked good but had Kante and Jorginho doing the other side for him. 

[!Hazard! 3,394]

I'd keep him at least until January just to see where his level really is. Hard to judge it based on Brighton game which was essentially our second pre-season game, nearly everyone was rusty.

That being said, he looked absolutely hopeless (even his touch was gone) so he better roll up his sleeves or else his Chelsea career is as good as over