Wilson 358 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 So who is the better player?GERRARDLiverpoolFA Cup: (2): 2000–01, 2005–06League Cup: (2): 2000–01, 2002–03FA Community Shield: (2): 2001, 2006UEFA Champions League: (1): 2004–05UEFA Cup: (1): 2000–01UEFA Super Cup: (2): 2001, 2005IndividualFWA Footballer of the Year: 2009PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2006PFA Young Player of the Year: 2001PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2001, 2009PFA Team of the Year: 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009FA Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009Liverpool top goalscorer: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2005UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007FIFA/FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009[105]FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2006Goal of the Season: 2006England Player of the Year: 2007Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE): 2007Honorary Fellowship from Liverpool John Moores University: 2008BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award 3rd place: 2005LAMPARDChelseaWest Ham UnitedUEFA Intertoto Cup (1): 1999ChelseaPremier League (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10FA Cup (3): 2007, 2009, 2010League Cup (2): 2005, 2007FA Community Shield (2): 2005, 2009World Football Challenge (1): 2009Barclays Asia Trophy (2): 2003, 2011InternationalEnglandFA Summer Tournament (1): 2004Individual2005 FIFA World Player of the Year - Silver Award2005 Ballon d'Or - Silver AwardFWA Footballer of the Year - 2005UEFA Club Midfielder of the Year - 2008World XI - 2005PFA Fans' Player of the Year - 2005Premier League : Player of the Decade, (2000–2009) according to official statistics[11]Premier League : Best player (2) - 2004–05, 2005–06England Player of the Year - 2004, 2005UEFA Euro 2004 Team of the Tournament2006 FIFA World Cup : Man of the match vs ParaguayPremier League Player of the Month - September 2003, April 2005, October 2005, October 2008Premier League Player of the Season - 2004-05, 2005–06Chelsea Player of the Year - 2004, 2005, 2009PFA Premier League Team of the Year - 2004, 2005, 2006Premier League : 2004–05 Barclays Merit Award (for 164 consecutive appearances)ESM Team of the Year - 2004/2005, 2005/2006, 2009/2010FWA Tribute Award - 2010Premier League : leader in assists - 2004–05 : 16 assists, 2009–10 : 17 assistsFA Cup: Best player - 2006–07, 2008–09, 2009–10FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2007Carling Cup : Best player - 2004–05, 2006–07Premier League : Midfielder with the most goals in premier league history - 145 goalsChelsea F.C. : Top goalscorer - 2004–05, 2005–06, 2007–08Goal of the Month - April 20102011 Barclays Asia Trophy - player of tournament2003 FA Premier League Asia Cup - player of tournamentonly player to score at least 10 goals in nine consecutive seasons in the Premier League.Top Scorer2006–07 FA Cup : 6 goalsOfficial stats from Wikipedia. Lampard made history yesterday so let's add;-183 goals in all competitions. (add appearances if you can)-Joint level with Jimmy Greaves as Chelsea's all time 3rd highest goalscorer.- Only player in PL history to score 10 or more goals for 9 seasons running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Lampard wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklyFrank 103 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Lampard for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Can't go by awards on who is better to be honest, not even individual ones.I think Gerrard has been generally the better player, but Lampard in his prime was much better than Gerrard in his prime, Lampard had a great technical abillity, could cross, shoot, pass, huge key player, but also has to rely on players, where as Gerrard doesn't have to rely on players as much and can create stuff by himself more than Lampard can, also Lampard was also more consistent (obviously not now), i think Gerrard had the better vision, but Lampard was more creative and had much better movement, where as Gerrard was a better long distance shooter. Play Lampard deep with bad players around him he wont play well, but Gerrard will play well, they play in the same position but play way differently, i really cannot tell.But to be honest i hate the comparison, because it affects both of the players, it's like i hate the Mata and Silva comparsion, because Silva is the better player, but now everyone doesn't even bother with how good Mata is because of Silva, cause he's better anyway... but the comparsion with Gerrard and Lampard has just gone on, and Liverpool fans actually hate him and always try and find ways to criticise him just because of that comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Lamps. No contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEssien 127 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Gerrard gets attention for being a big fish in a small pond, he stands out amongst the likes of Skrtel, Henderson, Maxi Rodriguez etc. Lampard has shone even when competing in a team full of world class superstars for countless numbers of years. His superiority in goals and assists is just the tip of the iceberg as to why Lampard is a better player than Gerrard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson 358 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Equal.Lamps is miles ahead. Gerrard can't even win a Premiership title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Gerrard the more talented player, Lampard clearly the better career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson 358 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Forgot to add KING LAMPARD-183 goals.-Joint level with Jimmy Greaves as Chelsea's all time 3rd highest goalscorer.- Only player in PL history to score 10 or more goals for 9 seasons running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Lamps is miles ahead. Gerrard can't even win a Premiership title.That's because Lampard has been in a much better team, Chelsea have been a much better team than Liverpool in the past years, unfotunately it's not the case at the moment because liverpool are a better team at the moment. You can't just do stats like that according to team awards, it's a TEAM!, game, not individual, no one wins the premier league by themselves, where's the logic in that?...so lets just say, Cristiano Ronaldo plays for Wolves, and Emile Heskey plays for Manchester United, Man United win the title 3 times in a row, Wolves just scrape relegation, you're gonna say Heskey is the better player now are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 LOL.. as if were a unbiased poll on a Chelsea forum What's the point of this? We all know who's gonna win here.. and we know who would win in a red forum. aaah screw it - LAMPARD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 LOL.. as if it were an unbiased poll with a shock outcome on a Chelsea forum We all know who's gonna win here.. and we know who would win in a red forum. aaah screw it - LAMPARDE: sorry for double post, dunno how it happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I think Gerard is much better than Lampard, he is better defensively, have much better skill with the ball, have really2 good passing accuracy and range. Lampard is probabaly slightly better in term of off the ball movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue out west 27 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 gerrard is inconsistent, picks terrible passes most of the time, and is glorified for the 30% of the time he doesn't make an unnecessary mistake. he is the best looking player i've ever seen in highlights in comparison to how he actually plays a whole 90. a great way to see how seriously someone watches football is to ask them about gerrard. everyone can appreciate a 32 meter laser beam to the top corner. lampard does all the small things. he keeps team shape, makes incisive runs for his teammates' space and to provide goal threat, finishes like a CF, can put it in with any kind of shot there is (and has done it against the best clubs and in the best competitions in the world), he's a winner who scores pivotal goals and crucial moments, he's just as dangerous from set pieces and simply scores way more goals than gerrard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wilson 358 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 That's because Lampard has been in a much better team, Chelsea have been a much better team than Liverpool in the past years, unfotunately it's not the case at the moment because liverpool are a better team at the moment. You can't just do stats like that according to team awards, it's a TEAM!, game, not individual, no one wins the premier league by themselves, where's the logic in that?...so lets just say, Cristiano Ronaldo plays for Wolves, and Emile Heskey plays for Manchester United, Man United win the title 3 times in a row, Wolves just scrape relegation, you're gonna say Heskey is the better player now are you?I see your point but its been questioned before.....Are you a Chelsea fan!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I see your point but its been questioned before.....Are you a Chelsea fan!? What's been questioned?, that's the first time i've been questioned if i'm a chelsea fan.Mate grow up, just because i think your point is stupid why Lampard is the better player doesn't make me not a Chelsea fan, so just because if a comparisson comes up and he's a Chelsea player i have to go with the Chelsea player?, cause he's at our club?, nah son, bull shit.Yeah i'm not a Chelsea supporter, i just get really angry when we lose but then really happy when we win as i have been all day, yeah good joke that i just feel emotion but i don't support the club in any way what so ever... and that was sarcasm, because believe me i would expect you not to know that already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Wow, never knew Lampard have most wins and appearances in the PL.... and will probably have most assists, and 2nd to Henry at goals too....What a career. Absolute legend.Edit: well that list at the picture probably not talking about all PL history, i just checked on Wikipedia and Shearer has 260 goals,not 93 off course, and the likes of Speed and David James have more apps than Frank.. but he's right up there. It did sounda bit strange to me, with all those players who played until they were like 40. but whatever- he's top those lists probably those are talking about 2000-2009.. pretty sure they are. Legend anyway off course!One thing you know about him, is that you will never see in your life a footballer who's like him. When you say Messi you think Maradona,when you talk about brazilian Ronaldo you know there were Pele, Romario and such... so im not saying Lamps has there talent,but he's just has this uniqe style that you dont see... cant think of players who has that... uniqueness, in todays football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Liverpool in the past years, unfotunately it's not the case at the moment because liverpool are a better team at the moment.Seriously?Im not being funny but they have not gone above us all season infact they haven't been above us in the table AT ANY POINT since 2008/2009. The best they have got is level on points and even that has only happened twice (one of which in August this year after the first 3 games).How can they be better than us? :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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