Andreas Christensen

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Like Kompany:

Well I don't think they necessarily need to go that far. Kompany is built like a superhero.

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Well, then they both need to bulk up. That's just one of the requirements of a CB. Even the very best needed strength, whether your name is Cannavaro, Puyol, Nesta, Terry or Thuram. If you're not as good as them, you need it even more. Koscielny is a bit lightweight but not like Christensen (yes, I realise he's young). And he makes up for it with his impressive athleticism.

I have to say, his pace didn't impress me. Looked a little sluggish off the mark. Slow on the turn as well. But that goes for a lot of CBs.

That is why I think Christensen size is fine. He is improving every week and getting rave reviews at the age of 19. So I see know reason why it will affect him when he is older. He has got way too many qualities that make him a good all round defender. Pique is another defender that comes to mind who is very similar.

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I think we should sign Sam Burgess apparently his move back To Australia has been blocked .

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That is why I think Christensen size is fine. He is improving every week and getting rave reviews at the age of 19. So I see know reason why it will affect him when he is older. He has got way too many qualities that make him a good all round defender. Pique is another defender that comes to mind who is very similar.

Pique is a strong man. Not surprising since he's 1.93m and 85 kg. He just lacks the aggression and the smarts to use his body more efficiently in duels to be a true powerhouse.

We obviously disagree but I'm 100% he'll need to bulk up. And he probably will. If you're prone to being overpowered as a CB, you possess a massive flaw.

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Pique is a strong man. Not surprising since he's 1.93m and 85 kg. He just lacks the aggression and the smarts to use his body more efficiently in duels to be a true powerhouse.

We obviously disagree but I'm 100% he'll need to bulk up. And he probably will. If you're prone to being overpowered as a CB, you possess a massive flaw.

Is bulking up that easy ? Asking for a friend.

But seriously, Mourinho already said it a couple of times that Christensen has to put a muscle. Eddie Newton, who is head of Chelsea loanees department, says that they are talking to every player out on loan what they have to improve and to Christensen he's saying the same thing as Jose I imagine. Well, Andreas has that need of becoming stronger reminded every couple of weeks probably. I just don't know if that is so easy if someone doesn't have natural predispositions for it.

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Is bulking up that easy ? Asking for a friend.

But seriously, Mourinho already said it a couple of times that Christensen has to put a muscle. Eddie Newton, who is head of Chelsea loanees department, says that they are talking to every player out on loan what they have to improve and to Christensen he's saying the same thing as Jose I imagine. Well, Andreas has that need of becoming stronger reminded every couple of weeks probably. I just don't know if that is so easy if someone doesn't have natural predispositions for it.

For some people it's easy. Not for everyone. I think he's trying, but even if it doesn't show doesn't mean he's not gettimg strong. Varane doesn't look huge, but he's strong.

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Is bulking up that easy ? Asking for a friend.

But seriously, Mourinho already said it a couple of times that Christensen has to put a muscle. Eddie Newton, who is head of Chelsea loanees department, says that they are talking to every player out on loan what they have to improve and to Christensen he's saying the same thing as Jose I imagine. Well, Andreas has that need of becoming stronger reminded every couple of weeks probably. I just don't know if that is so easy if someone doesn't have natural predispositions for it.

What the Mexican said. It's hard for everyone though.

Makes sense Mourinho would say that. I'm not saying he has to gain 10KG but I think he's too light. People always say it's hard but so many players go through it. It's not as if Terry and Cahill woke up one day and looked like they do today. It's investing in yourself.

I'm sure people said the same about Ozil, he's just skinny. Look at how much he changed at Arsenal. And that was at age 25/26. And remember how much Ivanovic bulked up?

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We should do a Courtois with him.

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Up against none other than Lewandowski today :ph34r2:

Great learning curve for him.

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Andreas Christensen v Bayern in the 1st half

1/1 tackles won

3 interceptions

3 clearances

1 block

4/5 aerial duels won

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Christensen vs Bayern (part of a 5 man defence today)

4 Tackles

5 Interceptions

7 Clearances

3 Blocked Shots

0 Fouls (!)

8 Aerial Duels Won

49 Touches

Passing Accuracy 70%

WhoScored's MOTM with a 8.34 rating.

Loving the experience he's gaining there. He's been a big succes thusfar. The game was tense but he kept his cool.

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As well as what people have posted, just been seeing the twitter commnets and he has been getting rave reviews after his performance today. Went on the Bayern forum and seeing people saying how ineffective Lewa was today. Just shows how much progress he is making. Part of the first team this season to beat Bayern in all competitions. Fantastic!

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Christensen absolutely balling vs Bayern - but we'll spend £45m on Stones.

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Anyone remember Kalas vs Liverpool ?

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Kalas should be in our squad already and then soon we'll have Christensen... imagine Cahill, Kalas, Zouma and Christensen as our 4 CBs. Holy shit that would be amazing.

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Is bulking up that easy ? Asking for a friend.

But seriously, Mourinho already said it a couple of times that Christensen has to put a muscle. Eddie Newton, who is head of Chelsea loanees department, says that they are talking to every player out on loan what they have to improve and to Christensen he's saying the same thing as Jose I imagine. Well, Andreas has that need of becoming stronger reminded every couple of weeks probably. I just don't know if that is so easy if someone doesn't have natural predispositions for it.

Working out for 4 years I can safely say it depends on a couple of factors. Most importantly your genetics (testosterone levels, bone structure), age, your metabolism, your nutrition, your height and how active you are in general etc. As a professional footballer u spent 4 hours per day running around so you have to compensate this by eating a lot to get in caloric surplus which is required to build muscle. However, footballers have professional nutrition specialists and personal trainers around them so at this point it is only a matter of genetics and disciplin to eat tons of lean meat, rice, oatmeal etc.

People like Kompany are naturally athletic and probably started off at a lean 80kg @ 193cm so that was a good basis. It is perfectly plausible that he put on 20kg of lean mass within a few years with the genetics and training environment he got. Guys like Schürrle however have rather inferior genetics + so he obviously did struggle to keep up eating his metabolism out.

Christensen is a similar case,naturally narrow bone structe, low to average levels of testosterone, fast metabolism, tall, lean stature (this body type is called ectomorph btw). For these guys it is especially hard to add brawn, however it is possible, even when your genetic predicament is below average. People like Bale or Ronaldo were boney AF in the early stages of their careers but managed to bulk up a bit. But to outsmart and outwork your genetics you have to eat and sleep enough and regularly, no late partying, no alcohol etc, in short dedicate your whole life to the cause. Many people, even professional footballers fail to do so. Though, if Christensen has the attitude to become world class he will have no problems gaining 10kgs.

ON the other hand for e.g. a student with much time at his hands, it is easy to gain a decent amount of muslce within a short period of time. Naturally, I am very tall and lean too, pretty much like Christensen and Schürrle. I could eat 4000 kcals a day without gaining a gram starting off at about 60kg and 190cm. In 4 years ( I only trained like 2 years effectively because of job/uni) I put on 30kg of lean muscle without gaining a gram of fat because I managed to exactly figure out how much of what to eat and how to train to be on the brink of caloric surplus. Even in my first year, when I did football, American football, Rugby, MMA, Tennis and table tennis simultaneously besides my daily workouts, I managed to gain almost 10kgs of so called newbie gains. When you start training your muscle fibres merge, get thicker and store more water to adjust to the new stimulus even when your nutrition etc is not attuned yet but after that you have to work really hard cos that effect gradually vanishes. So if christensen or your buddy had not had their newbie gains yet, yeah then it is easy to bulk up a bit but if you want to get really big and strong it requires immense dedication unless you hit the genetic jackpot. Most of us (99%) cannot get as buff as professional bodybuilders, wrestlers or even guys like Kompany just because of our genetics. Actually for most guys it is impossible to be both, big and ripped at the same time without use of steroids, which I strongly condemn. The average natural limit is about your height minus 100 @ 6-8% BF. So it is important to set your goals adequately to not get frustrated or over ambitious which will bring the danger of injuring yourself.

Sorry for this lengthy answer but I am really passionate about this topic. If you or anyone else got further questions, I am glad to answer in the physical&mental health thread or by PM.

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I do not think that Christensen needs Kompany size,but a little bit more muscle would not do him any harm.Training for at least one year will improve him immensely.If he gets similar size to Pepe or Ramos,he will have enough muscle.80 kg should be the minimum weight to reach for him in order to be a srong CB,but I am sure he can easily reach that if Chelsea has some good nutritionists etc.

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Kalas should be in our stuad already and then soon we'll have Christensen... imagine Cahill, Kalas, Zouma and Christensen as our 4 CBs. Holy shit that would be amazing.

Stones, Zouma, Cahill and Christensen.

Kalas isn't good enough.