Kevin de Bruyne

[Pacquiao 1,834]

who left and who was signed in the same window... and talk about twisting the truth.

affane -> mvg, right?

how is that twisting the truth??? LOL

you twisted what i wrote and acted like every player we signed was because we sold another, but that is not how we operate, not every signing we make is because we have sold someone else

[didierforever 7,349]

how is that twisting the truth??? LOL

you twisted what i wrote and acted like every player we signed was because we sold another, but that is not how we operate, not every signing we make is because we have sold someone else

what? not at all.

if you go through my first post, i specifically, specified, that we "replaced" piazon, a player that we still have with a certain player.

it is infact YOU, who has simply mapped all the outgoings with the incomings to somehow say that our transfers by jose have been good. if not, then why did you even include malouda, a player who did not play a single minute of football for us in 12-13.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Dear Pacquiao,

I'm really curious what arguments you're coming up with to minimalise KDB's winning goal against strong opposition yesterday. it might even be possible that his goal later on will be decisive in reaching the knock out stage of the CL.

I even read that KDB's stats (5 goals and 5 asssists) are the best of a new city player in history...

But hey, I probably forgot a million other things that proove he's not that special!

LOOOL you do know i am a big De Bruyne fan, always have been, his goal also won me £240 yesterday!

[Pacquiao 1,834]

what? not at all.

if you go through my first post, i specifically, specified, that we "replaced" piazon, a player that we still have with a certain player.

it is infact YOU, who has simply mapped all the outgoings with the incomings to somehow say that our transfers by jose have been good. if not, then why did you even include malouda, a player who did not play a single minute of football for us.

i simply listed outgoings and incomings from 2013 to 2015, you over analysed it, as usual, fact is Mourinho has done an incredible job when you look at what he inherited and how he built a title winning team in one season, and i have no doubt he will build again next summer and we will win the PL or CL

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9837133/gary-neville-chelsea-are-a-shining-example-to-other-clubs

[sutro 1,026]

KDB is atleast a level above everyone else we have, we will never know what exactly happend between him and mou, but what i do know is that its a very bitter pill to swallow, the boy just always deliver something we need badly.

[didierforever 7,349]

i simply listed outgoings and incomings from 2013 to 2015, you over analysed it, as usual, fact is Mourinho has done an incredible job when you look at what he inherited and how he built a title winning team in one season, and i have no doubt he will build again next summer and we will win the PL or CL

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9837133/gary-neville-chelsea-are-a-shining-example-to-other-clubs

no u did not just list the outgoing and incomings. you intentionally, mapped an outgoing to an incoming for a similar position to show what kind of business jose has done.

and kudos to neville, to toot our horn when we were winning. but as a fan, we all know what are problems are.

6 defenders which include a 21 year old baba rahman who jose clearly does not trust.

no decent replacement for matic

our best B2B player is rambo who cant pass the ball to save his life.

our best "creator" is cesc, whose last assist was god knows when.

our best no.10 is oscar who has consistency issues as well as still a big question mark about his talent. and we kept him and sold mata and kdb instead. so fans are always going to question that judgment.

we have 4 AMs. our 5th and 6th AM are kenedy and traore who are not going to start a PL/CL game despite 3 out of 4 of our AMs being poor.

we dont have half a decent back up to costa.

so IF, jose's transfer dealings were even "good" we would not find ourselves in such a situation. our squad is thin, overly reliant on the likes of hazard in attack and matic in defence/balance.

so the answer is that jose's transfer dealings have been POOR.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

no u did not just list the outgoing and incomings. you intentionally, mapped an outgoing to an incoming for a similar position to show what kind of business jose has done.

and kudos to neville, to toot our horn when we were winning. but as a fan, we all know what are problems are.

6 defenders which include a 21 year old baba rahman who jose clearly does not trust.

no decent replacement for matic

our best B2B player is rambo who cant pass the ball to save his life.

our best "creator" is cesc, whose last assist was god knows when.

our best no.10 is oscar who has consistency issues as well as still a big question mark about his talent. and we kept him and sold mata and kdb instead. so fans are always going to question that judgment.

we have 4 AMs. our 5th and 6th AM are kenedy and traore who are not going to start a PL/CL game despite 3 out of 4 of our AMs being poor.

we dont have half a decent back up to costa.

so IF, jose's transfer dealings were even "good" we would not find ourselves in such a situation. our squad is thin, overly reliant on the likes of hazard in attack and matic in defence/balance.

so the answer is that jose's transfer dealings have been POOR.

dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.

Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours?

[didierforever 7,349]

dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.

Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours?

i did not start this. go to the page before and read it. also, if you dont want to take part in a discussion, there is always the option of ignoring it. and since there is no name calling, i dont get the point of people intruding who dont want to take part in the discussion.

as for more better dealings than wrong ones

jose transfers dealing since he came here compared to 2012/13 squad which was one of the worst chelsea squads in the roman era.

moses -> willian (brilliant)

marin -> KDB ->brown?-> kenedy (MASSIVE MISTAKE)

piazon -> schurrle -> cuadrado -> traore (LOL, MASSIVE MISTAKE considering the money involved)

mata -> salah -> pedro (jury is out on pedro but considering the loss of creativity in the squad, MASSIVE MISTAKE)

lukaku -> etoo -> drogba -> falcao (another MASSIVE MISTAKE)

luiz -> zouma (decent dealing)

paulo ferreira -> x,y,z youth player (no output)

bertrand -> luis -> baba (MASSIVE MISTAKE)

lampard -> cesc (given the midfielders available, and the massive liability that cesc is, MASSIVE MISTAKE)

romeu -> matic (the best dealing without a shred of doubt)

ba -> remy (quite the same)

torres -> costa (anyone would have been an upgrade. but one of his best dealings after willian and matic)

so at max, 3 deals which can be termed as good and above, 3 changes which were average and 6 MASSIVE MISTAKES. not hard to see how poor his dealings have been

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

i did not start this. go to the page before and read it. also, if you dont want to take part in a discussion, there is always the option of ignoring it. and since there is no name calling, i dont get the point of people intruding who dont want to take part in the discussion.

as for more better dealings than wrong ones

jose transfers dealing since he came here compared to 2012/13 squad which was one of the worst chelsea squads in the roman era.

moses -> willian (brilliant)

marin -> KDB ->brown?-> kenedy (MASSIVE MISTAKE)

piazon -> schurrle -> cuadrado -> traore (LOL, MASSIVE MISTAKE considering the money involved)

mata -> salah -> pedro (jury is out on pedro but considering the loss of creativity in the squad, MASSIVE MISTAKE)

lukaku -> etoo -> drogba -> falcao (another MASSIVE MISTAKE)

luiz -> zouma (decent dealing)

paulo ferreira -> x,y,z youth player (no output)

bertrand -> luis -> baba (MASSIVE MISTAKE)

lampard -> cesc (given the midfielders available, and the massive liability that cesc is, MASSIVE MISTAKE)

romeu -> matic (the best dealing without a shred of doubt)

ba -> remy (quite the same)

torres -> costa (anyone would have been an upgrade. but one of his best dealings after willian and matic)

so at max, 3 deals which can be termed as good and above, 3 changes which were average and 6 MASSIVE MISTAKES. not hard to see how poor his dealings have been

A discussion to be respectful and pleasant to read, has to have way more than just no name calling.....none of your "debates" are pleasant to read or respectful.....

Also, i do think that your list as well is twisted just to prove your points.....but again...

dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.

Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours?

[Azul 1,615]

What is there to discuss here? Mourinho made a massive mistake and De Bruyne is better than every midfielder we have except for Hazard. It's as simple as that. Anybody who disagrees is unbelievably deluded.

[didierforever 7,349]

A discussion to be respectful and pleasant to read, has to have way more than just no name calling.....none of your "debates" are pleasant to read or respectful.....

Also, i do think that your list as well is twisted just to prove your points.....but again...

dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.

Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours?

talk about going around in circles. and since you have nothing new to come up with, just like in the mourinho thread on RLC, well, all i can say is, for a discusiion to be respectful, there have to be 2 people to make it disrespectful. some guy telling zolayes to "think before you talk" or something around that lines, is disrespectful. or even when i pointed out about malouda, saying "i think u need to do your research" is as disrespectful. and its no surprise that its the same guy.

and like i have already pointed it out to you before, u like to make statements, instead of actually trying to prove them. tell me how my list is twisted?

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

A discussion to be respectful and pleasant to read, has to have way more than just no name calling.....none of your "debates" are pleasant to read or respectful.....

Also, i do think that your list as well is twisted just to prove your points.....but again...

dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.

Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours?

To be fair though nobody should look at the list Didierforever posted and find it pleasant to read. It is a depressing look at the truth in some poor dealings.

I probably harp on this a lot, but there is NO reason why a player like Bertrand should even be in the market for being sold. A homegrown player who knew the league and was premier league quality. What more can our youth system do? Then we bring in no marks like Djilobodji and Baba...that is depressing.

Also I don't need the jury to be out on Pedro. He is an serviceable youth player coming from Barcelona, and if his name was Peters and he was coming through our youth system he wouldnt be entertained in this squad at all. It is depressing.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

A discussion to be respectful and pleasant to read, has to have way more than just no name calling.....none of your "debates" are pleasant to read or respectful.....

Also, i do think that your list as well is twisted just to prove your points.....but again...

dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.

Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours?

To be fair though nobody should look at the list Didierforever posted and find it pleasant to read. It is a depressing look at the truth in some poor dealings.

I probably harp on this a lot, but there is NO reason why a player like Bertrand should even be in the market for being sold. A homegrown player who knew the league and was premier league quality. What more can our youth system do? Then we bring in no marks like Djilobodji and Baba...that is depressing.

Also I don't need the jury to be out on Pedro. He is an serviceable youth player coming from Barcelona, and if his name was Peters and he was coming through our youth system he wouldnt be entertained in this squad at all. It is disappointing.

[lucio 5,418]

how could mourinho discard a talent like that, after that debut. absolute fool. most ignorant manager in the world.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

talk about going around in circles. and since you have nothing new to come up with, just like in the mourinho thread on RLC, well, all i can say is, for a discusiion to be respectful, there have to be 2 people to make it disrespectful. some guy telling zolayes to "think before you talk" or something around that lines, is disrespectful. or even when i pointed out about malouda, saying "i think u need to do your research" is as disrespectful. and its no surprise that its the same guy.

and like i have already pointed it out to you before, u like to make statements, instead of actually trying to prove them. tell me how my list is twisted?

I'll make just an example to you, because i think you know it is twisted just to prove your point:

Torres replacement was in fact Remy, Remy is not lighting the world on fire, but is miles better than Torres.

Cesc, while being useless now (i don't like him and he should be nowehre near Chelsea if you ask me) was brought in to do a job, and last season he did brilliantly, so that shouldn't be considered as a massive mistake, the list goes on, deduce the rest for yourself.

As i've said, try to be more respectful in the future, every word you post is saturated with disrespect, i'll leave the rest to you, as something thought by oneself is way more valuable than just being told how to do it.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

how could mourinho discard a talent like that, after that debut. absolute fool. most ignorant manager in the world.

Oh my God, let it go, it's getting embarrassing now.

[Azul 1,615]

Oh my God, let it go, it's getting embarrassing now.

Why do you have to respond to every comment that is about Mourinho ffs?! Stop it bro, it's very annoying. So what he is badmouthing Jose and is doing rightfully so, why do you feel the need to respond to EVERY COMMENT?

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Why do you have to respond to every comment that is about Mourinho ffs?! Stop it bro, it's very annoying. So what he is badmouthing Jose and is doing rightfully so, why do you feel the need to respond to EVERY COMMENT?

Sorry, you harp on and on and on and on and on and on about KdB. IT WAS 2 YEARS AGO. 2 YEARS AGO, but now we're in a bad run of form all of a sudden it's back again.

I've had enough of Jose being blatantly disrespected in a run of form he has never previously seen in his career - he should get a break, especially considering his history at the club. He's not a 'donkey of a coach' as Lucio referred to him as, he's possibly the best of his generation, and I also wouldn't need to respond to such comments if there weren't so many of them. I don't mind a structured reason why Mourinho should leave, but crying over spilt, 2 year old milk crying 'Waaaaaaa we're not playing well, it's all down to Mourinho selling KdB, fuck off Jose' is simply not good enough and you have no right to moan about me when you are antagonising the other half of the forum that don't want another 5 years of instability which everyone seems to have forgotten about.