Kevin de Bruyne

[Essien19 1,415]

5 minutes ago, Fernando said:

I still have him over Oscar.

Haha, that's how bad we've become. Can't argue with that, nice counter!

[Stingray 9,441]

Very bad game, showed nothing today, except of misplacing passes and more importantly, no fucking leadership when his team needed him most.

75 mil player and brought nothing to the table, have you seen his free kick?! Good position, but he couldn't even keep it in, was that bad, lol

But i see, the thread is only active when we can moan and insult a Chelsea legend who actually won us titles, lolz

 

Cherry picking much? In the grand scheme of things he did great. Just look at bluemoon forum, they have him right up there with Silva and even above Aguero.

Basicallly: we fucked up. We talk about Sterling, etc.... This one just hurts. Being belgian or not.

[Stats 7,142]

1 hour ago, Essien19 said:

Very bad game, showed nothing today, except of misplacing passes and more importantly, no fucking leadership when his team needed him most.
75 mil player and brought nothing to the table, have you seen his free kick?! Good position, but he couldn't even keep it in, was that bad, lol
But i see, the thread is only active when we can moan and insult a Chelsea legend who actually won us titles, lolz

 

Top players are allowed bad games. Where was Messi when Barca needed him the most in the UCL quarters against Atletico? I thought he was poor but you know what a couple bad games does not mean he is poor. For me still the best player in the world. KDB has been quality for City this season and was poor tonight as were the rest of City however why should there be people slating him when as a whole in his first season he has been fantastic.

[Essien19 1,415]

24 minutes ago, Stingray said:

Cherry picking much? In the grand scheme of things he did great. Just look at bluemoon forum, they have him right up there with Silva and even above Aguero.

Basicallly: we fucked up. We talk about Sterling, etc.... This one just hurts. Being belgian or not.

I think i'm still a bit butthurt because every time KdB did something nice, shit went down in here,  exhausting, it's not only how well KdB did it, no,
it's turning quickly into moaning and insulting possible persons who could be responsible for this (one) fuck up.
I don't have a problem with you, there are other candidates who are trying too hard, that's annoying. 

Back to topic:
Was KdB the worst City player on the pitch?! No, i'll give you that, but the demands on KdB are at an all time high, he worked for it, it's a good thing,
but people (me included) want to see exceptional things from him, he didn't live up to it. Sadly, he had problems with basic things, which annoyed the shit out of me and my mates.
We're all Blues, for once cheered for him and then he let us down, can't make this shit up, simply can't, unbelievable!

I don't care from which country he or you are (it's a dangerous path to go down anyway), but yeah, i guess he's your Messi, that's how good he has become.
Germany doesn't produce these kind of players these days, sadly. There must be something in the fries.
 

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Don't think we are considered f***ed up yet. If he is win a double or something with City in his first season, then yes. This season they're 'only' won COC, 4th in the league when MU and Chelsea having one of the worst season, lucky draw in CL knock out phase with disgraceful SF performance, etc. People will forget his overall performance easily, when the team achieved nothing 'major' in a season. Just like Willian did this season.

[Essien19 1,415]

10 minutes ago, Stats said:

Top players are allowed bad games. Where was Messi when Barca needed him the most in the UCL quarters against Atletico? I thought he was poor but you know what a couple bad games does not mean he is poor. For me still the best player in the world. KDB has been quality for City this season and was poor tonight as were the rest of City however why should there be people slating him when as a whole in his first season he has been fantastic.

As always you're reasonable and here lies the problem, if i go out to stirr it a bit up, only the good guys come calling, lol.

I think Messi played good, the passes where there, i think he was the best from MSN trio.
But yeah, Messi has a big problem and that's called Messi(2012) or Messi (2015) who knows. He set the bar too high, even he struggles sometimes, first world problems...

KdB was worse, i expect much more from him, these are the games where you show the world what the hype is all about, i think he could have tried harder, that's my problem,
but no worries, just perception.

Yes, over the season so far he showed Chelsea what they're missing, he cuts it in the Prem and in Europa (PSG).
As you said, there are weaker games to come, not everything's rosy and golden, that's all i wanted to say.
Because i've only read in here how great he is, but that's not the case for all the time, imo.

Cheers to all of you!

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Nice goal and assist tonight to qualify to the final.

 

 

 

[bababoom 4,478]

49 minutes ago, Stingray said:

Cherry picking much? In the grand scheme of things he did great. Just look at bluemoon forum, they have him right up there with Silva and even above Aguero.

Basicallly: we fucked up. We talk about Sterling, etc.... This one just hurts. Being belgian or not.

This Essien19 guy is just a Mourinho fanboy, he slates KDB to try and justify Jose' reason for selling. 

The fact is KDB is brilliant, one poor game doesn't change that ffs. 

[Beepu 1,714]

Didn't do well today but City as a team were crap. Still would have him over Oscar. Still a mistake selling him. But what was that free kick on the dying minutes??? Terrible decision.

[Essien19 1,415]

This Essien19 guy is just a Mourinho fanboy, he slates KDB to try and justify Jose' reason for selling. 

The fact is KDB is brilliant, one poor game doesn't change that ffs. 

Bluemoon poster...

'Absolutely diabolical tonight. I mean really really insipid.

There's a lot of people look back at his season through ginger-tinted spectacles. He hit some great form when he came back from injury and people assumed he'd been like that all season.

Nonesense.

He's been inconsistent. When on form he's showed flashes of absolute brilliance. Usually against teams that allow him loads of space, and leave space in behind for him to hit early balls or drive in to space. But he's had plenty of completely anonymous games, most of which have been discussed at length earlier in the thread.

The problem he's got is when teams don't give him space, they don't leave space in behind, he's completely ineffective, like tonight. He hides, he doesn't show for the ball, he's not brave enough to demand the ball to feet in tight spaces. If he wants to play as a number 10 against a decent side they're not just going to allow him to hit an early ball over the top of them, he's going to have to figure out another more subtle, cuter way.

And then when we are out of possession he's a complete liability. If Yaya had allowed his runner go as easily as DeBruyne did on their goal he would get absolutely hammered on here. But DeBruyne is the new kiddies fave so he apparently doesn't have to put in a shift.

Silva has been injured this season and has struggled for form and fitness. But in the 5 years I've been watching him I've never seen him hide. He'll still demand the ball, show feet, get on the half turn, try and create something. He'll work hard for the team, he'll always do his best. He's a very brave footballer, particularly when we have the ball. De Bruyne shit himself tonight. He bottled it.'

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[Weckerz 3,781]

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[Gilvorak 3,734]

Great player but highly flawed. He needs to evolve as a playmaker/complete midfielder in the upcoming years. Unlike Hazard he has zero impact on games if he's not scoring or assisting (which to his credit he does fairly often).

[OhForAGreavsie 6,063]

5 hours ago, Essien19 said:

Bluemoon poster...

'Absolutely diabolical tonight. I mean really really insipid.

There's a lot of people look back at his season through ginger-tinted spectacles. He hit some great form when he came back from injury and people assumed he'd been like that all season.

Nonesense.

He's been inconsistent. When on form he's showed flashes of absolute brilliance. Usually against teams that allow him loads of space, and leave space in behind for him to hit early balls or drive in to space. But he's had plenty of completely anonymous games, most of which have been discussed at length earlier in the thread.

The problem he's got is when teams don't give him space, they don't leave space in behind, he's completely ineffective, like tonight. He hides, he doesn't show for the ball, he's not brave enough to demand the ball to feet in tight spaces. If he wants to play as a number 10 against a decent side they're not just going to allow him to hit an early ball over the top of them, he's going to have to figure out another more subtle, cuter way.

And then when we are out of possession he's a complete liability. If Yaya had allowed his runner go as easily as DeBruyne did on their goal he would get absolutely hammered on here. But DeBruyne is the new kiddies fave so he apparently doesn't have to put in a shift.

Silva has been injured this season and has struggled for form and fitness. But in the 5 years I've been watching him I've never seen him hide. He'll still demand the ball, show feet, get on the half turn, try and create something. He'll work hard for the team, he'll always do his best. He's a very brave footballer, particularly when we have the ball. De Bruyne shit himself tonight. He bottled it.'

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Clearly written by a football fan who forms his opinions by watching the game rather than just clicking to the stats site.

I regularly read about how brilliant Kevin was a Werder. Nonsense. I doubt any non Bremen fan saw as many of Kevin's games there as I did. His rave reviews were not merited in my opinion. There were some good games of course but there were more poor ones. I saw him only four times at Wolfsburg. His only good performance in those was against Bayern. In fact it was a brilliant performance because Bayern played right into his hands. They left huge spaces for him to run or pass into and Kevin duly tore them apart in a big VfL win.

I often dismiss stats, and I've done so again in this post, but that attitude isn't entirely justified. Statistics do have something to tell us, so the shear weight of goals and assists Kevin contributes can't be ignored. He is clearly a valuable player but people have to keep perspective about what he is and what he isn't.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Clearly written by a football fan who forms his opinions by watching the game rather than just clicking to the stats site.

I regularly read about how brilliant Kevin was a Werder. Nonsense. I doubt any non Bremen fan saw as many of Kevin's games there as I did. His rave reviews were not merited in my opinion. There were some good games of course but there were more poor ones. I saw him only four times at Wolfsburg. His only good performance in those was against Bayern. In fact it was a brilliant performance because Bayern played right into his hands. They left huge spaces for him to run or pass into and Kevin duly tore them apart in a big VfL win.

I often dismiss stats, and I've done so again in this post, but that attitude isn't entirely justified. Statistics do have something to tell us, so the shear weight of goals and assists Kevin contributes can't be ignored. He is clearly a valuable player but people have to keep perspective about what he is and what he isn't.

Agree, reminds me at a time when Oscar first half season brilliant and then missing was the main discussion couple of years ago, more like 'performance vs stats'. Oscar stats were 8+ goals & 8+ assist already, but 'fans' who watch him playing regularly clearly not satisfied with his performance, therefore some still bashing him continuously of his display, 'ignoring' his stats. The contradiction seems to happen with KDB now. KDB stats are good what is matter, don't really care about his performance good or bad, or whether more bad than good.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

10 hours ago, Essien19 said:

Very bad game, showed nothing today, except of misplacing passes and more importantly, no fucking leadership when his team needed him most.
75 mil player and brought nothing to the table, have you seen his free kick?! Good position, but he couldn't even keep it in, was that bad, lol
But i see, the thread is only active when we can moan and insult a Chelsea legend who actually won us titles, lolz

 

He's not 75m€ player, he is 9m€ player in my eyes, the sum he was bought from Genk.

His game against Real yesterday was as bad as his game against them in 2013 at pre-season. Like a complete and utter failure. That was his only such poor game there in pre-season and this is his only such poor game here in the season. Maybe he can't perform against Real.

And talking about overraction Fuck me, it's either Mount Everest or Mariana Trench. Where was Aguero in all this ? Apparently the best ball-playing striker in the world, can't keep the ball to save his life. World-class my ass. But oh well he is actually world-class, as is De Bruyne. But "Nadie es perfecto" as they say in Spain.