Barbara 15,149 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 why talk about meritocracy sometimes as the answer to some players and ignore it for others?If one player is doing well he deserves to be in the team, but to actually make it to the team he has to not only do well but better than the other contenders to the spot. Azpilicueta did better at RB than Bertrand, so the same meritocracy that would have played Bertrand, plays Cesar instead. And in the case they both showed the same 'deserving' rate, then it's down to preference, but why on earth should we question the meritocracy in Mourinho's choice of Cesar in the LB when he did so well there? So just because Ryan is a natural LB he deserves better even if Cesar played better? Then it comes down to rightfulness - as if Ryan had the rightful spot - instead of merit. I swear I can't follow this reasoning... I mean one could question why Ryan isn't playing, but label it down to a failure in meritocracy when Azpilicueta has been one of our best players in the whole team, not only in the position when playing in RB makes no sense whatsoever. As for Kevin and his work-rate, I can't say from Werder Bremen because I didn't watch it, but for us? Did nothing for me. He has started 4 matches (Hull, ManU, Swindon and Arsenal) and he has a total of 1 tackle, 0 interceptions, 0 blocks, 0 clearances. I know stats won't tell the whole story, but it's doesn't scream work-rate imo. hjperdeath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Nice pity run-out there from Jose. Wtf is he going to do in like 5 minutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Nice pity run-out there from Jose. Wtf is he going to do in like 5 minutes?yea.. thanks for the huge chance to impress Mou! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJames 729 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 **pretends I read all the posts from pages 215 to now***After today, I'd really like Mou to give KDB a chance in the Lampard role or just in lieu of Lampard really. I haven't seen him enough to know how he's defensively but we can certainly use his offensive abilities to start an attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neira 19 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Brought in to kill time, added value for kevin=0,000000005 ParNolio7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Should be given more chances considering our AMs are not impressing consistently at all. Stingray and remains of the day 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Just read that atlético Madrid are in for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Just read that atlético Madrid are in for him.Old news actually that is reported to be a long shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Kevin is actually a very technical player with a fantastic touch. That's how little we've seen him play at Chelsea ...So I'd much rather see him in la liga, but indeed as a sale, not on loan, no value in that for Chelsea except perhaps increasing his market value again ... but that has nothing to do with footballForgot to react to this post, saw the notification.Of course he's technically very good, but the man can also run and keep running. That's why he did so great in Germany last year. If he has to leave, I'd rather see him there, because frankly, it's just a better league than Spain. Take away the top three teams there and all you get is mediocrity. Also, it won't be much easier to get a starting spot at Atletico if you ask me. He might as well just stay here then. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Forgot to react to this post, saw the notification.Of course he's technically very good, but the man can also run and keep running. That's why he did so great in Germany last year. If he has to leave, I'd rather see him there, because frankly, it's just a better league than Spain. Take away the top three teams there and all you get is mediocrity. Also, it won't be much easier to get a starting spot at Atletico if you ask me. He might as well just stay here then.Bayern and Dortmund are much better teams than the rest of the german teams.Most of the german teams don't know how to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Would love to see him in Dortmund.. IMO would be great team for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Would love to see him in Dortmund.. IMO would be great team for him.Wouldn't be much different, Mkhitaryan who is a far better player atm is playing CAM role. On the wing there are Reus and Kuba, Kuba is probably still slightly ahead of Kevin in term of quality atm but in the long run Kevin might be better. He should go to some team like Wolfburg where he will definitely play in those attacking positions he wants and all the time because there are no competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Bayern and Dortmund are much better teams than the rest of the german teams.Most of the german teams don't know how to defend.First line is true. Second line i don't know. There's a gap between them, yes, but there's still a good base of teams in Germany. All of them financially healthy, most of them playing for sold out stadiums. If it weren't for foreign investors and the free rides Barca and Madrid get from the Spanish government every year, it would be Europe's best league by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Hope he starts today.Deserves to play because our attacking players haven't done anything lately to keep KDB on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Should have a shot in the next 3 games, that's for sure, the 4-3-3 is as good for him as for Lamps or Rami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Not even in today's line up. I thought he should have a chance today ahead of essien. I guess he is truly a gonner if he can't get ahead of essien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Gino 377 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I give up on the kid making any starts until the January window opens. Essien and Lampard are above him in the pecking order and Jose already said he's not pinning faith on youth this season as the pressure is too great. Total bullshit because Kevin would only improve the attack not hurt it anymore than having the other two in the lineup. Get this kid a loan in the EPL to Crystal Palace, Cardiff or Fulham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I give up on the kid making any starts until the January window opens. Essien and Lampard are above him in the pecking order and Jose already said he's not pinning faith on youth this season as the pressure is too great. Total bullshit because Kevin would only improve the attack not hurt it anymore than having the other two in the lineup. Get this kid a loan in the EPL to Crystal Palace, Cardiff or Fulham. Essien and Lampard don't play the same position. Mata and Oscar are rightfully ahead of KDB at the #10. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 IMO one of Mata or De Bruyne should be playing most games. Their set-piece deliveries are way better than anyone else in team. With Terry, Cahill and Ivanovic we could be scoring a set piece most games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Mourinho on #DeBruyne: "I feel sorry for not giving him big opportunities up to now, but he's working better than ever." 1/3 #CFC Mourinho on #DeBruyne: "I like him as a player. I learn now how to like him, also, as a kid. He's a good kid a good professional." 2/3 #CFC Mourinho on #DeBruyne: Hopefully I can give him enough games so he decides to stay in a happy way. I understand he needs to play more." 3/3 kellzfresh and Ainsley Harriott 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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