Pacquiao 1,834 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 WOW some people are really overrating Wilshere! he really is nothing special at all! he is a decent player, but no where near word class, i dont think he will ever be world class tbh, he is a good passer not great, he isnt good at taking players on and he cant finish! i dont see the hype that surrounds Wilshere! of course he is English so he will get hype, but he is nothing special at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 This is how it is atm, true base on facts and stats, unbiased view:Bale>Mata>Hazard>Cazorla>David Silva>Wilshere>Kevin>Oscar>Nasri>Nani>Valencia>YoungThis is based on last season only. If it was based on their overall career than obviously Silva would be top and Kevin/Oscar bottom. Don't even try to argue that Bale is not the best out of them all ATM, he scored like 10 goals alone last season that could have been nominated for goal of the season and you don't win PFA if you are not one of the best in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyco 143 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 This is how it is atm, true base on facts and stats, unbiased view:Bale>David Silva>Mata>Hazard>Cazorla>Wilshere>Kevin>Oscar>Nasri>Nani>Valencia>YoungThis is based on last season only. If it was based on their overall career than obviously Silva would be top and Kevin/Oscar bottom. Don't even try to argue that Bale is not the best out of them all ATM, he scored like 10 goals alone last season that could have been nominated for goal of the season and you don't win PFA if you are not one of the best in the league.Scotty Parker (was FWA tho?)Based on last season, David Silva is in no way ahead of Mata. Silva had a horrid year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danelka 209 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 This is how it is atm, true base on facts and stats, unbiased view:Bale>David Silva>Mata>Hazard>Cazorla>Wilshere>Kevin>Oscar>Nasri>Nani>Valencia>YoungThis is based on last season only. If it was based on their overall career than obviously Silva would be top and Kevin/Oscar bottom. Don't even try to argue that Bale is not the best out of them all ATM, he scored like 10 goals alone last season that could have been nominated for goal of the season and you don't win PFA if you are not one of the best in the league.If you base it on stats, in what universe is Silva ahead of Mata, Hazard, and probably even Cazorla? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Scotty Parker (was FWA tho?)Based on last season, David Silva is in no way ahead of Mata. Silva had a horrid year.Yeah I suppose haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 If you base it on stats, in what universe is Silva ahead of Mata, Hazard, and probably even Cazorla?True I guess, edited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! diskoviolente 425 Posted August 7, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted August 7, 2013 Probably has been posted before, but here are his assists and goals for Werder.Love the first goal especially. I think we´ve got a real diamond with this one (The phrase "No shit Sherlock" just came to my mind whilst typing) Gilvorak, Coop, Jusek and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Kojo 4,676 Posted August 7, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted August 7, 2013 It's amazing how simply being English can elevate ones ability further than it actually is.Creativity: De BruyneClose control: WilshereDribbling/Skills : KDBStamina/Durability: KDBGoalscoring: KDBLong shots: KDBTactical flexibility/versatility: KDBDe Bruyne is the miles better talent and its not even debateble.KDB is a starter for a Top 10 NT and Top 5 team in the World. Wilshere is struggling to get into Arsenal's team.Arteta, Ramsey, Cazorla have been outperforming him and keeping him out of the team yet he gets more hype than all of them combined.I keep hearing injuries are to blame for his mediocrity yet he started almost 30 games last year but Arsenal went own a title winning type run once he was dropped for Ramsey.The fact is during his best season he was playing next to a dominant player in Cesc Fabregas. He elevates his teammates game just like he did for Flamini, Hleb, Song, Diaby etcApparently he's a central midfielder but he can't play in the pivot because of his inability to defend and limited tactical understanding. Then apparently he's an AM but how many attacking midfielders out there score or assist at such a low rate?Cleverly and Henderson totaled more goals and assists than he did even in his breakthrough season.Sturridge is a better talent than Wilshere. That's a player who's injuries have actually affected his career greatly.You said in your first post that he was struggling to get into the Arsenal team. Then in your second post you state that he starts around 30 games. Stingray, TorontoChelsea, The Mak and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 in a TOP team ALL the squad players are stars ,,, That is what makes a TOP teamTell that to City. Besides i wudnt consider v Ginkel, Moses and Schurrle to be stars(awesome players though). We were a top team last season and our squad had the like of Yossi fucking Benayouns and Marko fucking Marins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Efficiency is by far Kevin's best quality. Just look at that video. It's all so simple. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 He made another assist and 4 goals after that video was made. His form after the winter break was outstanding. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 he's so good. daaayum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 You said in your first post that he was struggling to get into the Arsenal team. Then in your second post you state that he starts around 30 games.Common sense will tell you 30 games in all competitions and by struggling the tail end of the season when Arsenal went on title winning form towards the end of the season when he was dropped for Ramsey, Rocisky played AM and Cazorla moved to LW.http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/122089/jack-wilshere?cc=5901He didnt start the last 5 matches of the season and was used sparingly in the resthttp://twitter.com/MFworldfootball/status/324160163068141568/photo/1Stats back me up as well.Somewhat outdated because its without their last 4 matches which they won.He unbalances their team, good talent that doesn't really have a position. They should probably play him out wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Common sense will tell you 30 games in all competitions and by struggling the tail end of the season when Arsenal went on title winning form towards the end of the season when he was dropped for Ramsey, Rocisky played AM and Cazorla moved to LW.Its hardly struggling.He's young, he has came back from a long injury, so common sense should be able to tell you that Wenger isn't going to burn him out like he did two seasons ago. Peace., Blue Armour, Stats and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I'd really like to see how he does against a team like madrid he has been good so far though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 @ ilvoraGilvorak kdb hasn't even played a game in the elk yet n u figured all that out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Has an Iniesta esque approach to him, but much more physical. For some reason, I feel he will play a more important part for the future of this squad than Mata, Hazard, and Oscar. mediator and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Has an Iniesta esque approach to him, but much more physical. For some reason, I feel he will play a more important part for the future of this squad than Mata, Hazard, and Oscar. I don't think he's anything like Iniesta to be honest, he hasn't got that ball control Iniesta has, Iniesta is one of the few players that can roam around anywhere against anyone without the defenders getting to him, he is real menace.KDB doesn't seem that patient. I really liked KDB on the right side against Milan, he was really good. He worked hard, and he rotated in the middle very well also. He's a very technical player, he's got a good cross, a good pass, good shot and good dribbling. If Steven Gerrard was an attacking player, he would be very similar to De Bruyne, we will just have to see where KDB is going to play, because he can play just about anywhere but he needs a position to stick to. I think it will either be right wing or centre midfield. Barbara, The Mak, Chelsea? and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Probably has been posted before, but here are his assists and goals for Werder.Love the first goal especially. I think we´ve got a real diamond with this one (The phrase "No shit Sherlock" just came to my mind whilst typing) the 2:00 mark goal, not even Messi did that dribble. Thanks a lot for the vid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Its hardly struggling.He's young, he has came back from a long injury, so common sense should be able to tell you that Wenger isn't going to burn him out like he did two seasons ago.Poor excuse.Arsenal were a couple of points behind Spurs when he was dropped. No manager in their right mind would drop their supposedly best player in such a crucial part of the season that could potentially end up costing the club millions and the option to better players because of him potentially burning out.He was dropped because he unbalanced the team and was outperformed by other players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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