Jase 43,479 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 This will excite a few...Chelsea may sell Oscar and Ramires to fund Paul Pogba transfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Think if we really showing our real interest in Pogba this summer, he will want the move. He is looks like stuck and bored in Juventus to me. HG and world class player. 40-50 millions would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 They also mention Koke as a 2nd choice if we can't get Pogba. I hope it's the other way around.Think Koke is better with the ball under pressure, and make quick passes. the fact he's Spanish and played against real and Barca made him used to massive press. Im not sure Pogba has it. And Koke is also much more a work-horse, would be perfect with Cesc and Matic imo. Pogba will score more goals and do more 'amazing' stuff everyone will talk about, but to me Koke is the better player over a full 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 If Pogba is 55 mil. and Koke 44, I don't see much difference. I'm happy we are able to buy world-class players, so whoever comes, I'm okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,586 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 This will excite a few...Chelsea may sell Oscar and Ramires to fund Paul Pogba transferYeah I remember saying give Oscar to Juventus as they might want him and we get Pogba.So hopefully this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 This will excite a few...Chelsea may sell Oscar and Ramires to fund Paul Pogba transfer74 mil pounds for potential... these fees can't be real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Yeah I remember saying give Oscar to Juventus as they might want him and we get Pogba.So hopefully this is true.This would be great. I'm starting to get cold feet if they want Ramires too though. however, maybe that opens a spot for Ruben? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 74 mil pounds for potential... these fees can't be real.what makes you think its just potential? He's the most important midfielder on Juventus, a team in the q-finals of the champs league. He was the best midfielder in France's setup at the World cup. He is, in my opinion, World Class or very very close to it which is why all the top teams in the world want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 what makes you think its just potential? He's the most important midfielder on Juventus, a team in the q-finals of the champs league. He was the best midfielder in France's setup at the World cup. He is, in my opinion, World Class or very very close to it which is why all the top teams in the world want himMost important midfielder at Juve? That's your opinion. Best midfielder for France at the World Cup? Very possible but he was decent at best. That's just my opinion though.Pogba is one of the most talented youngsters in football. A player capable of producing some very exciting moments. But I have not seen him carry his team (over the course of a season), neither does he stand out when facing other top teams with quality midfielders. If there is one criticism I would have to pick out for him, it would be that his performances in the CL have been quite bland (not surprising, he's 21). The Serie A is not what it once was.I rate Pogba's potential very, very highly but he has not shown anything to command a fee that would make him one of the most expensive players of all time. That's the kind a fee you usually pay for a player that has been among the very best in the world for multiple years. I realise that players cost a lot more nowadays, but even in today's market that would be ridiculous. Up there with the Bale, James Rodriguez, Di Maria and Neymar transfers (it turned out Neymar cost Barca between €80 and 90 mil) in terms of insanity.€100 mil! He's not even enjoyed a season like Suarez in 13/14, Kaka in 06/07, or Ronaldo in 07/08. So yes, it would be based on potential. Paying that kind of money for potential is a dangerous game.Of course, if the club is in a position to buy Pogba for such a fee (I don't see Pogba joining btw) and still strengthen other positions in the team, I would not complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 €100 mil! He's not even enjoyed a season like Suarez in 13/14, Kaka in 06/07, or Ronaldo in 07/08. So yes, it would be based on potential. Paying that kind of money for potential is a dangerous game.That 100m figure was thrown out by his agent btw, so I wouldn't be attached to that tbf.He and Marotta (Juventus director) want to command the biggest fee and thus they are talking about such figures. By their assessments in due time, 2 years ago Pogba was worth 40m€, something like year ago Pogba was "only" worth 60m€. Now 100m€. For fuck sake, they only want to keep talking and want to get to people head, when they see another Pogba's stunner, to think "yeah, maybe they're right, 40 - 60 - and now 100 is a fair price for him". Through this talk they want to make him very marketable playere and nsure that they're going to rip someone's off very badly . They speak about Pogba every 2-3 weeks, don't want to shut up for a period, instead keep the product as hot as possible.Back to Earth though, I think his price at the end will be reasonable. I don't see anything over 60m€ unless someone will be desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 That 100m figure was thrown out by his agent btw, so I wouldn't be attached to that tbf.He and Marotta (Juventus director) want to command the biggest fee and thus they are talking about such figures. By their assessments in due time, 2 years ago Pogba was worth 40m€, something like year ago Pogba was "only" worth 60m€. Now 100m€. For fuck sake, they only want to keep talking and want to get to people head, when they see another Pogba's stunner, to think "yeah, maybe they're right, 40 - 60 - and now 100 is a fair price for him". Through this talk they want to make him very marketable playere and nsure that they're going to rip someone's off very badly . They speak about Pogba every 2-3 weeks, don't want to shut up for a period, instead keep the product as hot as possible.Back to Earth though, I think his price at the end will be reasonable. I don't see anything over 60m€ unless someone will be desperate.I can see Real dishing over €60 mil, like they did for James. If so, I would gladly take Modric, while they enjoy Kroos, Pogba, Isco and James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Most important midfielder at Juve? That's your opinion. Best midfielder for France at the World Cup? Very possible but he was decent at best. That's just my opinion though.Pogba is one of the most talented youngsters in football. A player capable of producing some very exciting moments. But I have not seen him carry his team (over the course of a season), neither does he stand out when facing other top teams with quality midfielders. If there is one criticism I would have to pick out for him, it would be that his performances in the CL have been quite bland (not surprising, he's 21). The Serie A is not what it once was.I rate Pogba's potential very, very highly but he has not shown anything to command a fee that would make him one of the most expensive players of all time. That's the kind a fee you usually pay for a player that has been among the very best in the world for multiple years. I realise that players cost a lot more nowadays, but even in today's market that would be ridiculous. Up there with the Bale, James Rodriguez, Di Maria and Neymar transfers (it turned out Neymar cost Barca between €80 and 90 mil) in terms of insanity.€100 mil! He's not even enjoyed a season like Suarez in 13/14, Kaka in 06/07, or Ronaldo in 07/08. So yes, it would be based on potential. Paying that kind of money for potential is a dangerous game.Of course, if the club is in a position to buy Pogba for such a fee (I don't see Pogba joining btw) and still strengthen other positions in the team, I would not complain.Who is more important Pogba to Juve? Pirlo? Vidal? Come on.... He was without question France's best midfielder and continues to be today.Here's what you don't get though, at 22 he is one of the most influential players on both teams he plays on. You don't have to play consistently well for an entire season either, the market dictates your value. There is a real shortage of quality midfielders and defenders, just last season Fellaini went for 30m. At current you can't find me one midfielder who is in Pobga's role who can have the types of performances he is having. Its not by mistake every big team in Europe want him, he is fantastic.Having said that I seriously doubt his fee will be 74M but at the same time I don't think teams are lining up to sign him based on potential. He is a fantastic player today and his potential only makes him more desirable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I can see Real dishing over €60 mil, like they did for James. If so, I would gladly take Modric, while they enjoy Kroos, Pogba, Isco and James.Modric is gonna be 30 at the start of the season and coming off an injury that kept him out for 4 months... You really think that is prudent spending? I don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,083 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Think if we really showing our real interest in Pogba this summer, he will want the move. He is looks like stuck and bored in Juventus to me. HG and world class player. 40-50 millions would do.I don't remember the details but someone posted a while back to explain that, in fact, Poga just missed out on qualifying as home grown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I don't remember the details but someone posted a while back to explain that, in fact, Poga just missed out on qualifying as home grown.http://www.espnfc.com/barclays-premier-league/story/2377230/premier-league-managers-split-over-fas-home-grown-proposalsIt is still a plan and still discussed, yes if it's accepted, Pogba might not categorized as a HG anymore, so does Fabregas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Modric is gonna be 30 at the start of the season and coming off an injury that kept him out for 4 months... You really think that is prudent spending? I don'tYes. I don't understand this obsession with signing only young players. A player contributing for 3, 4 years would be great as well. 3-4 years is a very long time in football. Modric has been performing at a high level since his Tottenham days. A 4 month injury won't kill him. Even better, he's already been doing well since his return. He was one of the better players on the pitch in the recent Clasico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illmatic 901 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Modric is one of the only players that having 30 I would bring to Chelsea, the best midfielder of the world so far. This is one of these players that hurts me so much that we don't signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 It would be possible to put together in our team Koke and Pogba on the same starting eleven?Money is the only problem, but it would be interesting to evaluate this possibility. Now football is decided in midfield and us with Matic - Koke - Pogba - Fabregas we would have a spectacular midfield in every way.Although I do not know how they could fit the pieces. Koke and Pogba can play on the sides, Koke anywhere and Pogba preferably on the left. Maybe putting Hazard as a pure striker like Messi or Ronaldo style that could make the pieces fit. Or put Hazard on the right side, but that option personally do not like me too much because Hazard on the left is much more dangerous. Matic Koke Pogba Fabregas Diego Costa HazardRegards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,083 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 http://www.espnfc.com/barclays-premier-league/story/2377230/premier-league-managers-split-over-fas-home-grown-proposalsIt is still a plan and still discussed, yes if it's accepted, Pogba might not categorized as a HG anymore, so does Fabregas.Thanks RB.My understanding, from the post I mentioned, is that Pogba narrowly fails to qualify under the existing regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Thanks RB.My understanding, from the post I mentioned, is that Pogba narrowly fails to qualify under the existing regulations.You're welcome.Well I always thought, as long as Fabregas still count as a HG, Pogba will be too. So does Lukaku. Not sure about Moses, as he might still count as a HG with existing and new regulation, if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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