Styles 9,790 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 He isn't really world class but really dude...England vice captain, I know England have a shit team now but still you don't get into regular starting 11 unless you are decent.That means absolutely NOTHING. A vice-captain for a rubbish national team; if anything the fact that Cahill is vice-captain for England says it all about how bad they are right now. DYC. and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Let the overreaction begin... Stats and Azul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Terry and Cahill made ONE tackle between them. They're afraid to get beaten for pace so back off until players either shoot or pass, it's pathetic.I though Luis was good, he won the ball several times and delivered some quality crosses; really impressive debut in my opinion.Move Ivan to CB for either and play Dave at RB. Next summer sign Varane while releasing Terry= set for the next God knows how many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Jose should have him do lines: "Must not back off near box"1000 times. Each letter in different colored pen! Sidzeret and Jase 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Saying that it wouldn't surprise if he plays 'well' again when Jose decides to do bus parking on Sunday against City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Sidzeret, Styles, CHOULO19 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Jose should have him do lines: "Must not back off near box"1000 times. Each letter in different colored pen! Just like I've been saying (or said), it's all good when the defence was tight and compact last season, which helped him from being exploited and to perform well. But the minute we look more open and expose him to 1 v 1 situations or similar ones, his weaknesses are still there and clear as broad daylight. Even he had somewhat of a nightmare dealing with Gomis at the weekend. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 He is still a great defender he just had a bad day, stop overreacting guys. Remember how he played against City last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Wtf. God, I thought this place was better than this. If you don't like Cahill, you're ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 He is still a great defender he just had a bad day, stop overreacting guys. Remember how he played against City last year?Remember how we set up vs City last year?As already pointed out by several people, Cahill and Terry were protected by our defensive system. Cahill more so than Terry since the latter still has great anticipation to put himself in the right position 95% of the time. Cahill on the other hand... The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 WOW. The knee-jerk reactions we get on here sometimes says how unforgiving some of our fans are. People saying he is only made to look good because he is at Chelsea, overrated etc. Just OTT. I accept he has his flaws like every other CB does (they are human IIRC) but it can't be denied that he has a lot of qualities as well. Simply amazing how fans are so quick to turn their back on our players after 1-2 sloppy performances but they seem to forget the games he performed excellently in. This is a player who deservedly got into the PFA team of the year last season but as I was saying there are too many knee-jerk reactions so I am not surprised. Can't wait to see the changes in opinions when he is back at his best. Memories are very vague with some people. All top CB make errors like Cahill but they also have qualities and if people can't see that in Cahill, we are obviously not watching the same games. manpe, iseah100 and Beigl 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm not reading the whole match thread or this but I get the sense that he was last night's victim scapegoat.......Cahill the new Oscar. RoyalBlues and ToJaTomek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 He is still a great defender he just had a bad day, stop overreacting guys. Remember how he played against City last year?That's the thing with the city game, we parked the bus. When we park the bus players like mikel look amazing. Now that we are trying to be more open you can see how poor they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 That's the thing with the city game, we parked the bus. When we park the bus players like mikel look amazing. Now that we are trying to be more open you can see how poor they are.We didn't park the bus against City at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 We didn't park the bus against City at all...Park the bus and counter attack. That's what I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Park the bus and counter attack. That's what I can remember.You should watch the game again then. There's a massive difference between parking the bus (I.e. like we did against Atletico away last season) and setting up to counter attack. The 1-0 flattered City, we could've scored 2 more in that game had we been more clinical. It was one of our best performances last season. Jase, Stats, Madmax and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 You should watch the game again then. There's a massive difference between parking the bus (I.e. like we did against Atletico away last season) and setting up to counter attack. The 1-0 flattered City, we could've scored 2 more in that game had we been more clinical. It was one of our best performances last season.Well then I guess my point should also extend to counter attack. Cause when you park the bus and counter attack your defense is more sitted at the back and not often exposed. When you play a high line, high pressing game your defense will be more exposed. This is where fast cb will also helped in getting recovery as well being more aggressive in their tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Well then I guess my point should also extend to counter attack. Cause when you park the bus and counter attack your defense is more sitted at the back and not often exposed. When you play a high line, high pressing game your defense will be more exposed. This is where fast cb will also helped in getting recovery as well being more aggressive in their tackles.I'm not disputing your latter point, I'm just saying that saying that we parked the bus against City is completely wrong. Setting up to counter attack and being a bit more cautious doesn't automatically mean you're parking the bus... Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Cahill a good, reliable cb, but he is not a top cb...Kompany was a top cb, but Munich made him look stupid yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Gary "Forever backing off" Cahill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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