🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Gary Cahill

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4 minutes ago, NiclasCFC said:

Thats harsh, he was faultless when we last won the title and he was also brilliant at the end of last season when Christensen struggled with his form. 

Brilliant last year? Cahill? Lolol 

I must have tuned into Bizzaro World EPL then. Up is down, down is up.

TIM Cahill, at almost 39, has twice the pace.

If you had Gary C and Alonso caught on same side in a defensive transition situ, my mum could probably turn the corner on them via an overlap run.

 

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1 hour ago, NiclasCFC said:

Thats harsh, he was faultless when we last won the title and he was also brilliant at the end of last season when Christensen struggled with his form. 

i will always be grateful for everything he did for the club, consumate professional, helped the club win many major honours since he joined in January 2012, that season he played a huge part in us winning the Champions League, that night in Munich is a testament to that, playing in a makeshift defence that night, after overcoming injury he sustained in the semis against Barca in the 2nd leg at the Camp Nou and along with the rest of the lads dealt with everything Bayern threw at us admirably and in the Europa League final the following season Cahill made a match winning tackle after Ivanovic's header to avoid extra time. His commitment to Chelsea's cause was never in question, always gave is all for the club and despite some of his frailties always showed heart and desire and did his job defensively, scored many vital goals along the way, but unfortunately now is playing time here is much reduced and he should look for another challenge if he wishes to continue playing. Wherever he ends up going i wish him all the best, once a blue always a blue, KTBFFH Cahill

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29 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Brilliant last year? Cahill? Lolol 

I must have tuned into Bizzaro World EPL then. Up is down, down is up.

TIM Cahill, at almost 39, has twice the pace.

If you had Gary C and Alonso caught on same side in a defensive transition situ, my mum could probably turn the corner on them via an overlap run.

 

Last year he stood up well at the back end of the last season when AC lost the plot and helped us to a solid end to the season  (too late for top 4 but still) and helped us win the FA Cup. Im far from a Cahill fan boy, infact if i had it my way he would have never been more than a squad player, but he did well last year after winning his place back.

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7 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Last year he stood up well at the back end of the last season when AC lost the plot and helped us to a solid end to the season  (too late for top 4 but still) and helped us win the FA Cup. Im far from a Cahill fan boy, infact if i had it my way he would have never been more than a squad player, but he did well last year after winning his place back.

I think saying AC 'lost the plot' is an overstatement. He had a few weak moments, but hardly collapsed. All, ALL young CB's (yes even Nesta and Beckenbauer, lol) have some rough early games. its a natural part of the learning curve. Christensen has world class potential and is more than ready to be a main starter for us atm. Same for Ampadu in a year or 2 (although what position for amps is actually up in the air a wee bit, as I think he can someday bee an amazing MF'er too)..

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Just now, Vesper said:

I think saying AC 'lost the plot' is an overstatement. He had a few weak moments, but hardly collapsed. All, ALL young CB's (yes even Nesta and Beckenbauer, lol) have some rough early games. its a natural part of the learning curve. Christensen has world class potential and is more than ready to be a main starter for us atm. Same for Ampadu in a year or 2 (although what position for amps is actually up in the air a wee bit, as I think he can someday bee an amazing MF'er too)..

Im a massive fan of AC but that Barca goal clearly affected him, he was second guessing himself all the time and our defense went from being much more solid with him in it to even more shaky with him in it, i hope and think he will mentally recover but it affected him badly no question.

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Just now, Tomo said:

Im a massive fan of AC but that Barca goal clearly affected him, he was second guessing himself all the time and our defense went from being much more solid with him in it to even more shaky with him in it, i hope and think he will mentally recover but it affected him badly no question.

I knew that one was the driving thing. I was bloody pissed too, but I have a lot of patience IF I do not see the same types of errors being made over and over and over (hello! Luiz!, lol)

My favourite Luiz pics

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

Fair enough that he wants to play week in week out but he seems pretty quick to make noise about wanting to leave when not selected to play. 

Cahill should have been sold three seasons ago 

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18 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I knew that one was the driving thing. I was bloody pissed too, but I have a lot of patience IF I do not see the same types of errors being made over and over and over (hello! Luiz!, lol)

My favourite Luiz pics

Remember Luiz celebrate like a maniac in that game 😟😟😟

 

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28 minutes ago, the wes said:

Remember Luiz celebrate like a maniac in that game 😟😟😟

 

More bad memories aka foolish board action

CHELSEA HAD SET SIGHTS ON PSG’S PRESNEL KIMPEMBE, BEFORE OPTING TO BUY BACK DAVID LUIZ

http://www.thehardtackle.com/news/2016/09/03/chelsea-had-set-sights-on-psgs-presnel-kimpembe-before-opting-to-buy-back-david-luiz/

 

Chelsea wanted Presnel Kimpembe before opting for David Luiz transfer

 

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2016/09/02/chelsea-wanted-presnel-kimpembe-before-opting-for-david-luiz-transfer-6106863/?ito=cbshare

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

I knew that one was the driving thing. I was bloody pissed too, but I have a lot of patience IF I do not see the same types of errors being made over and over and over (hello! Luiz!, lol)

My favourite Luiz pics

For all of David's faults one thing you can't question is his mental strength, although you could argue with him it works against him aswell, he could make the biggest mistake in the history of football and carry on like it didn't happen. It's a shame he didn't get Sarri or even Conte as a manager during his first spell here, imo part of the reason he didn't furfill his unreal potential (and when i say potential im talking changing perspective on the way people view a CB potential) as his managers either didn't really know much about defending  (AVB and RDM) or couldn't be bothered to developed him (Jose and Carlo, both reverted to the  "safe" options after a bad couple of games).

Imagine Sarri getting his hands on the 23 year old David Luiz that arrived from Benfica? My word that could have been quite something.

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

More bad memories aka foolish board action

CHELSEA HAD SET SIGHTS ON PSG’S PRESNEL KIMPEMBE, BEFORE OPTING TO BUY BACK DAVID LUIZ

http://www.thehardtackle.com/news/2016/09/03/chelsea-had-set-sights-on-psgs-presnel-kimpembe-before-opting-to-buy-back-david-luiz/

 

Chelsea wanted Presnel Kimpembe before opting for David Luiz transfer

 

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2016/09/02/chelsea-wanted-presnel-kimpembe-before-opting-for-david-luiz-transfer-6106863/?ito=cbshare

Correct me if I'm wrong Did we not try  to sign KK at that transfer window before we signed Luiz 

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59 minutes ago, the wes said:

Correct me if I'm wrong Did we not try  to sign KK at that transfer window before we signed Luiz 

Yes, we tried for 3 straight windows to sign Koulibaly. We also tried numerous other Serie A players across multiple windows, like Nainggolan, Nikola Maksimovic and Belotti from Torino, Bonucci, Brozovic, Romagnoli, Bernardeschi, Alex Sandro, etc etc. Nightmares all. The only reason Rudiger went through was Manolas bailed on a Russian league transfer and Roma had to sell Rudiger to comply with FFP. Alonso was also an FFP-assisted sale with Fiorentina (you know our history there, ie. the Salah bullshit, so you know it was a needed-to-be-done deal by them), and we payed what (at the time) many thought was a crazy price as he had been shit at Bolton (left on a free) and flopped at Sunderland.

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3 hours ago, the wes said:

Correct me if I'm wrong Did we not try  to sign KK at that transfer window before we signed Luiz 

Italy has been our graveyard, and its so so so frustrating for me as my 'lose Hazard but still have a CL-winning team is massively made up of Serie A players I have wanted for ages, and no, they are not some 'omg NOW they are so good I have to have them' rot (save for last 2 years with 3 of them)

 

CF Icardi (I have been on him since Sampdoria days)

CF backup Edin Dzeko (I wanted him over Giroud, but I do also love Giroud, so not a complete loss)

CF backup, developing superstar Pietro Pellegri (wanted BADLY for us to buy him from Genoa, instead Emenalo, now at Monaco, snatched him)

RW Bailey (NOT Serie A)

RW (would be backup/rotation as Bailey has come to the fore) Bernardeschi  (wanted him since since Fiorentina days)

LW/Floating Secondary striker/hybrid Dybala (been on him since Palermo days)

LW (backup/rotation/tactical option) Chiesa (IF CHO will also not renew)

AMF SMS

AMF Barkley (NOT Serie A) eventually replace with Kai Havertz , also NOT Serie A

CMF Kovacic (even HE has Serie A connection with Inter!) 

CMF Bryan Cristante (LOVE HIM so much, almost as much as Kovacic, great young Italian CMF, fuck Vecino, we need to buy HIM from Atalanta, ESPECIALLY if we lose (omg, sob) Kovacic)

Box to Box MF Kante (NOT Serie A)

DMF/Deep Holding Jorginho (before he came and Sarri came switch Nainggolan for Jorginho and move Kante to traditional DMF, Naingollan to AMF, SMS to Box to Box

LB Alex Sandro

LB backup up Emerson (IF he recovers finally to pre knee tear Roma form), if not sell him and keep Alonso (so all 3 LB are Serie A)

RB Azpi (NOT Serie A)

RB backup/rotation/eventual Azpi replacement (and PERFECT RB for Sarriball) João Cancelo

CB Koulibaly

CB Romagnoli

CB Rudiger

CB AC (NOT Serie A)

CB Ampadu (NOT Serie A)

GK Thomas Strakosha (as stated multiple times, I pushed for him as I thought, per a wrong old series of reports from Spain, that Kepa had a 150m euro release clause) I am 1000000% THRILLED we got Kepa so a win/win 

Back up GK Mattia Perin (another one we FUCKED up on, have followed him for years, Juve stole him from Genoa this summer for only £10.8m)

sooooo

 

thats 20 players with Serie A backgrounds

 

THAT team also would deffo be top 3 or 4 in world, if not flat out number one, it would smash the current weak-depth Liverpool and give Shitty a hell of a run for EPL title year after year and Juve would have been greatly weakened, so only Shitty, Barca, AM, RM, PSG maybe LPool (once they fix depth) and Bayern would be remotely close, its very young BUT also crazy experienced, and so so so deep

It has best pure number nine on planet in Icardi 

The best secondary striker on planet in Dybala (unless that's what you label Messi positionally, and Messi only has but only so many dominant years left before father time catches even him)

3rd  best under 26yo RW in Bailey (fuck Sterling), after Mbappe and Dembele

3rd best under 26yo LW in Chiesa, after Sane and Asensio

NUMBER ONE DMF in world (by far) in Kante,

Number 2 in world deep holding MF (number one eventually as Busquets will start to age sooner or later) in Jorginho, who is close to 4 years younger 

top 3 or 4 CMF and soon soon 2nd or 3rd (as my number 2 Kroos hits 30 in mid next season and starts to age) in SMS (after my number 1, Saul Niguez, and then probably (omg am I going to catch hell on this, BUT he has finally matured I really feel, even though I HATE Manure, Pogba, who was MASSIVE in the WC compared to a bläää run by SMS)

3rd best RB in world in Azpi (after Kimmich and Sergi Roberto)

3rd best LB in world in Alex Sandro, after Alaba and now, I think, Lucas Hernández

2nd best CB (after Varane) on planet in KK, great talent and depth and potential/youth in all the other CB's

Top 7 or 8 in world (and will rise) GK whether its Kepa or Straskosha

3rd best backup keeper in world, after Cillessen and Navas, and top 20 overall keeper in Perin

Its top 3 in almost every position, save keeper and overall wingers (but top 3 in world in both winger positions if you are talking under 26yo)

For keeper it has the 7th best or 8th and either is MORE than capable of winning a treble/quadruple given the rest of the team, Hell, even Kasper Schmeichel or Sven Ulreich or Pepe Reina could with THAT club in front of them could LOLOL), and either one will be top 5, maybe even top 2 or 3 some day, probably

NONE of those buys were impossible at all, and other than SMS NOW, none would have been insanely expensive IF we had done the deals when I first got on them, which means 2012, 13, 14  in multiple cases The only really newish ones are SMS and Bailey and of course the 17 year old Pellegri  (summer of 2017 for them)

Also, I did not force-fit Serie A-only players, those are the actual players I have wanted for years

so graveyard or not, it's oftimes Serie A where I end up at

 

BONUS

in terms of our CF troubles, I am really starting to become convinced (H/T to UJ)

that (provided he has a great year, and he's off to a MASSIVE start, 4 games, EIGHT GOALS) we seriously need to start to consider another Genoa striker to replace Morata, Krzysztof Piatek

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/who-is-krzysztof-piatek-the-barcelona-linked-scoring/afi17591a7tr176q1oeusn4t0

http://www.goal.com/en/news/new-lewandowski-piatek-shrugs-off-barcelona-transfer-talk/1zh5sn8eu08f1fbdk853tx5c9

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Gary Cahill set to make shock u-turn by staying at Chelsea beyond January transfer window

 

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/25/gary-cahill-set-to-make-shock-u-turn-by-staying-at-chelsea-beyond-january-transfer-window-8075398/?ito=cbshare

The veteran is unhappy with his lack of playing time in west London and had been expected to leave in January, possibly to boyhood club Sheffield Wednesday. Cahill has received plenty of interest from Premier League clubs and is desperate to prolong his playing career. However, Cahill is ready to commit himself to Maurizio Sarri’s project for the rest of the season because he feels the club are heading for silverware under the Italian, according to the Sun.

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I hope this is bollox

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8 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Gary Cahill set to make shock u-turn by staying at Chelsea beyond January transfer window

 

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/25/gary-cahill-set-to-make-shock-u-turn-by-staying-at-chelsea-beyond-january-transfer-window-8075398/?ito=cbshare

The veteran is unhappy with his lack of playing time in west London and had been expected to leave in January, possibly to boyhood club Sheffield Wednesday. Cahill has received plenty of interest from Premier League clubs and is desperate to prolong his playing career. However, Cahill is ready to commit himself to Maurizio Sarri’s project for the rest of the season because he feels the club are heading for silverware under the Italian, according to the Sun.

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I hope this is bollox

LOL he wants to stat pad his trophy cabinet. 

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6 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said:

LOL he wants to stat pad his trophy cabinet. 

It is almost surreal we cant seem to sell any of our surplus goods. We just loan them out and further decrease their values, or we trot them out on the field and do the same, or we just let them stay and milk us dry, whilst the boards uses basically the same 'one out for one in' excuse to really not make much needed moves. The Jorginho transfer was a one off, as no Sarri if no Jorginho and  Carlo Ancelotti's system doesn't use a DH DMF type. Kepa was a forced (although great in terms of player) deal due to the board fucking up on Courtois and giving him the hammer to go AWOL.

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Probably him and Cescs last season -in fact can see him going to Villa or something in January

In his defence wasn't match fit last night, and has had a glittering career at Chelsea

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Had a bad game, he's not a starter anymore, he's past his prime, BUT I feel like a lot of people don't show the respect that this guy deserves.

 

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Maurizio Sarri finally confirms Gary Cahill as captain

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-boss-maurizio-sarri-finally-confirms-gary-cahill-as-captain-a3979236.html

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27 minutes ago, the wes said:

Maurizio Sarri finally confirms Gary Cahill as captain

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-boss-maurizio-sarri-finally-confirms-gary-cahill-as-captain-a3979236.html

what's the point now really? might as well give the armband to a player who will play and contribute to the team consistently, no disrespect to Cahill who has done so much for the club already, but i think its time to call it quits on his Chelsea career, his best days are clearly behind him.