termninja 5,290 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 IIRC, he now has scored 38 out of his 41 penalties in the league. I know Shay Given and Tim Krul saved two of those. Can't quite remember who is the other one.http://www.thechels.co.uk/frank-lampard-and-the-art-of-the-penalty-kick/ Milan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 http://www.thechels....e-penalty-kick/Cheers mate! Aah, now I remember he missed the one against Stoke 2 seasons ago. They could have listed down the competitions which he scored those penalties though. Chelsea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 It's ridiculous. We played a whole whack of games under RDM last season and Lampard was amazing (and please, spare me the "parking the bus" crap, we only did that in 3 games, Lampard was playing in central midfield ). He played very well in the central midfield role. If you looked at the problems Chelsea had last season under RDM, central midfield was among the least of them. Suddenly, it's the biggest problem. Why? Are Chelsea having trouble scoring? Nope....Has the central midfield been responsible for costly defensive mistakes? Nope. I get it, the central midfield doesn't allow Chelsea to keep possession, right?...Wait, they had 72% possession yesterday. So, why the sudden need to get rid of Mikel and Lampard? It's simply the fetishization of the new. People want new players, young players, players who do skill moves on youtube videos (as if step-overs help you win championships) It's like people are shopaholics for new players. There is no need to change a part of the team that has not been a problem under RDM. Lampard does not need to be fast. He does not need to stay static in the midfield. Mikel does not need to boss the game. They're fine. You are basically creating conditions for these players where everything will be their fault. Go buy some players on football manager. It will make you feel better.I completely agree, i assume you are referring to all his doubters in the last sentance, but yeah they seem to be looking for excuses and see that there is a 34 year old in our midfield. He isn't as good as he once was... But he once was WORLD CLASS and now he is simply CLASS. TorontoChelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I completely agree, i assume you are referring to all his doubters in the last sentance, but yeah they seem to be looking for excuses and see that there is a 34 year old in our midfield. He isn't as good as he once was... But he once was WORLD CLASS and now he is simply CLASS.Yes, I meant a general "you" to the haters. Hutcho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I really wish people would stop saying that Lampard should be dropped. He was fantastic last season. He can adapt to the deeper role in time I'm sure. TorontoChelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 http://www.thechels....e-penalty-kick/Those penalty stats are more than stunning. Still remember when he missed at City and all those numbers regarding his successfull series came up. More than 20 penalties in a row resulted in a goal.'It's the usual result from the spot for Frank Lampard.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Lampard should start in fewer matches, but not dropped. Also, at 34, his form won't be very good at the start of the season, but should get better in time.I'd still start him considering how young the new signings are. Meireles, Ramires (or another CM) can provide him some cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 If I could make videos, I would not spend my efforts on making one full of Lampard goals and assists BUT I would concentrate on Frank's sliding tackles and all his penalties - even the missed ones (there would be only a few of them). Both these parts of his game - penalties and sliding tackles - are integral parts connected to Frank and it would awesome to have a video like that. I can't make them but there are people who can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Lampard should start in fewer matches, but not dropped. Also, at 34, his form won't be very good at the start of the season, but should get better in time.I'd still start him considering how young the new signings are. Meireles, Ramires (or another CM) can provide him some cover.AVB tried that remember? Sorry, but if Pirlo can do it then Supa Frank can do it. & now Supa is only 14 goals away from Tambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 AVB tried that remember? Sorry, but if Pirlo can do it then Supa Frank can do it. & now Supa is only 14 goals away from Tambling.I don't think this is a matter of "wanting," but of "necessity." The fact is Lampard now is 34 and he may struggle when playing twice a week. Different players react differently to aging, but Lampard is fairly tall, which could also make him less mobile later on.BTW, aside from the hype, I don't think Giggs and Scholes should be playing at all for united. Had they acquired proper replacements (who didn't pick up injuries ever other game) and they both would have been retired by now, or fringe players. Perhaps City deserved the title last season because they did not have to employ so "over-the-hill" players like United did. (No I don't think Lampard is there yet but he will)We tend to be more emotional over this situation, but the manager and coaches need not be and make decisions based on performance (of course his leadership and experience count as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 So you'd rather start Mikek over Lampard? Hahahaa fuck off.I'd absolutely start Mikel over Lampard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I'd absolutely start Mikel over Lampard...Mikel is so useless. need to play with him only when we want to PTB. BLionheart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Mikel is so useless. need to play with him only when we want to PTB.You're on the anti-Mikel bandwagon too? Ridiculous.Carry this conversation in the Mikel thread. daBlackMamba7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopfzeichen 78 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 This thread is full of Lampard nuthuggers I see. Well I'm fan of Chelsea FC and if the best thing is for Lampard to be dropped (which it is) then by all means. Why build a new team based around a 34 year old player? And continue to play him in an unnatural position is even more ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I think this will be the season we need Lampard's experience more than ever.It's all good signing these great young players like Hazard, Marin, Oscar and now Moses but we will need a leader alongside them and that will be Lamps. Term-X and Justin_3d 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 This thread is full of Lampard nuthuggers I see. Well I'm fan of Chelsea FC and if the best thing is for Lampard to be dropped (which it is) then by all means. Why build a new team based around a 34 year old player? And continue to play him in an unnatural position is even more ludicrous.We love Lampard because Lampard has been the greatest player in Chelsea history and is still a very good player. We are not basing a team around Lampard in the least and nobody thinks that we should. Frank is clearly the best player for the deep lying midfield role. He was excellent last season in his "unnatural position". People like you who want to shove him out every time he has a poor game are ridiculous. Mata had a whole string of poor games last season. It happens. Our central midfield simply is not a problem at this time. Lampard is not going to be around forever and will need to be transitioned out, but the eagerness for anyone to get rid of him is absurd. robdog and Magic Lamps 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Frank shouldn't be dropped that's ridiculous. Our best pivot pair is the Lampard-Mikel pair. All Frank needs to do is make himself more available as the outlet for the team, especially for Mikel. If Frank concentrated on that, he'd become vital for this new team. Frank has the ability to be the link man in the team, I believe he just needs to acclimatise, both him and Mikel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2193433/Frank-Lampard-says-Chelsea-team-split-Champions-League-win.html?ITO=1490&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterChelsea midfielder Frank Lampard believes last season's Champions League success saved many players from being shown the exit at Stamford Bridge.The Blues saw off Bayern Munich in May's final to deliver owner Roman Abramovich the one bit of silverware he desperately wanted - a European title.It signalled a positive end to a season of ups and downs, with manager Andre Villas-Boas making way for Roberto Di Matteo amid rumours of dressing room unrest and differences with the players - among them Lampard.And the influential England international admits the Champions League victory helped save the club from a summer of sweeping changes.'If we had gone out of the Champions League, God knows what would have happened. Looking back, there probably would have been wholesale changes,' he told The Times.'That's the beauty of winning the Champions League. We remain in the Champions League and can look at spicing things up with new players.'I didn't really think at the time that that was the end, but looking back, it probably would have been the break-up of that team.'An understatement Frank. A massive understatement!And he also spoke about his relationship with AVB a bit...Lampard also insists he has put behind him his rift with Villas-Boas, who is now in charge at Tottenham.'Looking back, we were slightly different personalities,' he said.'What I found hard to handle was not so much the not-playing side, it was the communication - or the not talking about it.'There are no hard feelings, certainly not from me. We sent messages after he left. I wish him all the best.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I think this will be the season we need Lampard's experience more than ever.It's all good signing these great young players like Hazard, Marin, Oscar and now Moses but we will need a leader alongside them and that will be Lamps.I totally agree with this.And it is why I want Lampard and Terry to stay here till they retire.However, that does not means that they should be playing every game full 90 minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 He should be coming off the bench. How long does he have to be poor before he's benched ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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