Leif 6,006 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Remember when Varane was clearly the next best defender He's taking his time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 56 minutes ago, Leif said: Remember when Varane was clearly the next best defender He's taking his time With Pepe leaving I can't see real Madrid selling varane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Is it me or have we been linked with loads of players atm dunno if am coming or going lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,698 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 On 2017. 05. 31. at 1:29 PM, manpe said: Do you think Pedro would accept being backup if that was the reason he left barcelona? Will Willian accept another season on the bench? If we sign somebody to their position then there is a chance both will leave, and we will need to sign and integrate at least two new players in addition to other more pressing issues. Well, he is 30 years old. If we buy a world class RW, Pedro becomes a benchwarmer and he wants to leave then let it be. Pedro is a good player but he is not the man of the future, if a great young player makes him want to leave then whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 On 5/31/2017 at 7:29 PM, manpe said: Do you think Pedro would accept being backup if that was the reason he left barcelona? Will Willian accept another season on the bench? If we sign somebody to their position then there is a chance both will leave, and we will need to sign and integrate at least two new players in addition to other more pressing issues. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk I don't see why Pedro or Willian has to leave if we sign a right sided attacker. Both can play on the left and do a decent job. With plenty of games coming up next season and taking potential injuries/suspensions into account, those players will get their fair share of game time. And both of them seem fairly settled and happy to play for this team and under Conte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,265 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I know that this isn't the right thread to say what I have to say, but I have the feeling that Chelsea is not so strong in market anymore, there are more clubs with more power. Seems that the players don't want play in our club. It is the sensation that I have in the last few weeks. I don't know why, we won the league. I mean, maybe I know. We have the competion of Guardiola and Mourinho and like it or not, they have more power and more level that Conte, unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I know that this isn't the right thread to say what I have to say, but I have the feeling that Chelsea is not so strong in market anymore, there are more clubs with more power. Seems that the players don't want play in our club. It is the sensation that I have in the last few weeks. I don't know why, we won the league. I mean, maybe I know. We have the competion of Guardiola and Mourinho and like it or not, they have more power and more level that Conte, unfortunately Roman's willingness to spent big has waived in recent years and you could say, who can blame him. Lost a big part of his fortune due to other matters, the team are winning and possibly his interest has dampened. communicate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 6 hours ago, Mário César said: I know that this isn't the right thread to say what I have to say, but I have the feeling that Chelsea is not so strong in market anymore, there are more clubs with more power. Seems that the players don't want play in our club. It is the sensation that I have in the last few weeks. I don't know why, we won the league. I mean, maybe I know. We have the competion of Guardiola and Mourinho and like it or not, they have more power and more level that Conte, unfortunately It is not because of Mou or Guardiola. IMO coaches does affect player decision but it all come down to the money. The two manchester clubs are by far the richest team in the league and it shows in term of their spending. the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I don't care about alexis or lukaku. We are pretty settle in term of striker as long as Costa is staying. It is different if he is going to leave. I hope Conte focus on midfield, we desperately need either a creator or a runner in midfield and better wing back. Other than those two position, I think we should be ok for next season kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 6 hours ago, Mário César said: I know that this isn't the right thread to say what I have to say, but I have the feeling that Chelsea is not so strong in market anymore, there are more clubs with more power. Seems that the players don't want play in our club. It is the sensation that I have in the last few weeks. I don't know why, we won the league. I mean, maybe I know. We have the competion of Guardiola and Mourinho and like it or not, they have more power and more level that Conte, unfortunately 13 minutes ago, communicate said: The two manchester clubs are by far the richest team in the league and it shows in term of their spending. The quicker we move outta the bridge and build a new stadium we can compete with the Manchester clubs in the transfer market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, communicate said: I don't care about alexis or lukaku. We are pretty settle in term of striker as long as Costa is staying. It is different if he is going to leave. I hope Conte focus on midfield, we desperately need either a creator or a runner in midfield and better wing back. Other than those two position, I think we should be ok for next season We are linked with Dani Alves today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,074 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 minute ago, the wes said: The quicker we move outta the bridge and build a new stadium we can compete with the Manchester clubs in the transfer market Additional matchday income isn't going to close the gap. In any case, United are planning to increase the capacity of their stadium. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 6 hours ago, Mário César said: I know that this isn't the right thread to say what I have to say, but I have the feeling that Chelsea is not so strong in market anymore, there are more clubs with more power. Seems that the players don't want play in our club. It is the sensation that I have in the last few weeks. I don't know why, we won the league. I mean, maybe I know. We have the competion of Guardiola and Mourinho and like it or not, they have more power and more level that Conte, unfortunately It's exactly right thread to say this. And yes, we're not but our approach is different. We still can spend truckload of money but we need to be wiser with this. We can't "Mangala" in the transfer market, you know. A high profile mistake, yet City spends even more on the next two centre-backs. I can't fault the club for not buying Griezmann for 100m€ or Pogba but there are really players that we can buy. We still at worst 6th in football food chain. I wonder what the problem is with negotiation process. Do you imagine we couldn't buy a player from Everton who put transfer request ? And why deal for Cuadrado was pretty much agreed in the first week of January yet it took a deadline day to announce it ? Or going back to 2015, how the hell in early July we "signed Baba" and proceeded the selling of Filipe Luis yet it took next 6 weeks to finish the deal, and we went into the season without left-back ? Or we needed a centre-back that year yet we couldn't sign anyone until deadline. Why did David Luiz and Marcos Alonso signed on the last day previous summer ? How's that possible we could go into season without a recognized left-back AGAIN ? Our transfer negotiations are baffling. Now there are rumours that Bakayoko deal is difficult because there are too many intermediaries, no doubt in my mind that we eventually sign him, but yeez, why City don't have the problem with that ? Bernardo Silva, guy from Benfica probably has multiple intermediaries since childhood as well as it's common practise in Portugal, but deal was concluded in a few days. Watch out for August signing of Bakayoko ... The spending power is there but transfer negotiations are weird. We have a problem to close down any deal. I can't imagine how we are going to sign those 6 players minimum that we need. Backup GK, LWB, RWB, CB, CM, RW. Probably striker too if Michy/Diego leaves and maybe another midfielder if Matic/Fabregas leaves. But honestly we have so much money now I can't accept defeat in this transfer market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 minute ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Additional matchday income isn't going to close the gap. In any case, United are planning to increase the capacity of their stadium. Selling stadium name rights will bring income aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jernej93 569 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, communicate said: I don't care about alexis or lukaku. We are pretty settle in term of striker as long as Costa is staying. It is different if he is going to leave. I hope Conte focus on midfield, we desperately need either a creator or a runner in midfield and better wing back. Other than those two position, I think we should be ok for next season If Costa clears his mind he is probably the best striker in Premier league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 22 minutes ago, jernej93 said: If Costa clears his mind he is probably the best striker in Premier league Without a doubt but the problem is we never no which Costa is going too turn up the unplayable Costa or the whining diving idiot that loses his head marflow, kellzfresh, jernej93 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 2 hours ago, jernej93 said: If Costa clears his mind he is probably the best striker in Premier league I don't think he is the best but I am not so sure Lukaku and alexis will be much an upgrade. I want a physical presence up top, not alexis. Lukaku is interesing but not sure he is much an upgrade over Costa. I think Lukaku will score more goals but don't think he will score goals when we are not playing well like Costa did a couple times this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,265 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 7 hours ago, communicate said: It is not because of Mou or Guardiola. IMO coaches does affect player decision but it all come down to the money. The two manchester clubs are by far the richest team in the league and it shows in term of their spending. but we don't have a lot of money too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Manchester don't spend more than us due to being richer. They spend more because they partition their funds differently. We spend the same amount - it's just we launder our money by spending 100m across 20 terrible youngsters, selling them all over time, and signing big names via their sales. This is definitely more stressful, time consuming, annoying, many negative things compared to the way the Mancs work, and, that's why we can't just pop out and get 4 stars. We can afford them, but our process takes so much longer. Now, why do we do this, when the Mancs don't? I don't know. Maybe it is as simple as them having a few extra tens of millions, but that shouldn't be it, as Roman can create an additional 100m for himself and the club on a whim, which could be spent on whatever we like. It's just another of the many questions marks regarding how the club is run. Everyone else follows a blueprint; we make it up as we go along, changing policy entirely every 4 or so seasons. Which means we're only a season or 2 away before another Torres signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Lets just hope we get our summer transfer targets sorted asap and learn from previous failings , and the board back Conte to the hilt and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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