Kojo 4,676 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 My argument just got totally countered there, you're knowledge and your points are just overwhelming, i should leave TalkChelsea right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Mikel is shit too, if we want to Challenge for the title we need to get rid of average players like him.Time to get a good defensive midfielder, right back and a cheap striker and we will be sorted.Perhaps a winger too but i don't know.Are going to even attempt to justify that bold statement? Pacquiao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 'Mikel is shit' makes all the rest of it pointless.We could wring any concession we wanted from a club like Man United in exchange for the services of Mikel.He's a terrible player, he's far too slow, and does he even break up play?.I swear i never see him breaking up play ever. Always out of position too and making stupid mistakes, very clumsy player.Get rid, that's all i can say, it was a huge mistake signing him. Time to get someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 My argument just got totally countered there, you're knowledge and your points are just overwhelming, i should leave TalkChelsea right now.He's a terrible player, he's far too slow, and does he even break up play?.I swear i never see him breaking up play ever. Always out of position too and making stupid mistakes, very clumsy player. Get rid, that's all i can say, it was a huge mistake signing him. Time to get someone else.there is actually no point in me arguing this as you clearly haven't seen Mikel play if you think he never breaks up play and is clumsy ect! Pacquiao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnchelsea 79 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Mikel is shit too, if we want to Challenge for the title we need to get rid of average players like him.Time to get a good defensive midfielder, right back and a cheap striker and we will be sorted.Perhaps a winger too but i don't know.We should definitely go for Demba Ba who has a release clause of 7m pounds Kojo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 there is actually no point in me arguing this as you clearly haven't seen Mikel play if you think he never breaks up play and is clumsy ect!His last two games have been a good example. Terrible player, last season he was pretty decent when Matteo came in, awful when AVB was there, just awful. Couldn't keep up with anything, but he still was no diamond under Matteo either.But yeah the clearly no point in arguing with you blah blah blah excuse is coming is it. What's your point?, you haven't seen him play?. I can name games where he was shit, Wigan game, when they scored the equaliser it was his fault for being out of position, his worst game was the one against Valencia when we drew 1-1, they where running riots in midfield. Especially that Madrid young one, Canales, and Mikel couldn't do shit, he was running well walking around like a headless chicken.In the CL Final i'll give him some credit because he was good, and against Barcelona, even though he was giving the ball away too much for my liking. Still not good enough though. When he was on form last season i was still saying sell him, he's just not good enough and that's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 We should definitely go for Demba Ba who has a release clause of 7m poundsIt is a good idea, he has a dodgy knee but for 7 million you can't really go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 His last two games have been a good example. Terrible player, last season he was pretty decent when Matteo came in, awful when AVB was there, just awful. Couldn't keep up with anything, but he still was no diamond under Matteo either.But yeah the clearly no point in arguing with you blah blah blah excuse is coming is it. What's your point?, you haven't seen him play?. I can name games where he was shit, Wigan game, when they scored the equaliser it was his fault for being out of position, his worst game was the one against Valencia when we drew 1-1, they where running riots in midfield. Especially that Madrid young one, Canales, and Mikel couldn't do shit, he was running well walking around like a headless chicken.In the CL Final i'll give him some credit because he was good, and against Barcelona, even though he was giving the ball away too much for my liking. Still no where near as good though. When he was on form last season i was still saying sell him, he's just not good enough and that's that.here is a video for you as you for some reason have never seen Mikel break up play! here you go enjoy Pacquiao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 here is a video for you as you for some reason have never seen Mikel break up play! here you go enjoy A youtube video?, that's the most pathetic argument i've ever seen, you can get a good video of Emile Heskey on youtube, no really you can.And it's on for 3 minutes, so he can't of done fucking much can he. Oh and 2010 too 2011?, 2 years ago?...Still a shit player, that video wont show what he does wrong and where he should be when he's out of his position somewhere (as usual).And just to top it off, no way did you read my full post when you posted that, so that just goes to show how ignorant you really are, just posting that Mikel video at the ready... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 A youtube video?, that's the most pathetic argument i've ever seen, you can get a good video of Emile Heskey on youtube, no really you can.And it's on for 3 minutes, so he can't of done fucking much can he. Oh and 2010 too 2011?, 2 years ago?...Still a shit player, that video wont show what he does wrong and where he should be when he's out of his position somewhere (as usual).And just to top it off, no way did you read my full post when you posted that, so that just goes to show how ignorant you really are, just posting that Mikel video at the ready... haha keep it up! keep living that dream that Mikel is shit! haha! your whole argument is pathetic and is not even worth wasting anymore time with! keep thinking Mikel is average all you want, if it makes you happy! Pacquiao and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaUnite 26 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I just cannot help but laugh at line ups like this.So all our midfielders and forwards are attacking minded?, and Lampard is not a true defensive minded player, he's just alternate. That's a formation what will give us much more trouble than we can give trouble.I will change Lampard's position with natural DM, Oriol Romeu. Oscar AP/DLP. Like Parker and Modric in spurs. Parker = Romeu. Modric = Oscar.and yeah.. Perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I will change Lampard's position with natural DM, Oriol Romeu. Oscar AP. Like Parker and Modric in spurs. Parker = Romeu. Modric = Oscar.and yeah.. Perfect. No!, not enough!, i want Messi upfront!... and step on it!!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Wow some delusional people! Mikel is shit??? that is just ridiculous! anyway i really hope Arsenal dont sign Cazorla! he is one heck of a player! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Delusional, aye i'm the only one here who has actually even produced an argument.It's a sin to call a Chelsea player shit these days, even when it's true, if we signed Gary Twigg i would get put in a headlock for saying he's not good enough.Well anyway, he's not good enough and that's that, i hope he proves me wrong but very very doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Sloth is up to his ol' tricks again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 haha keep it up! keep living that dream that Mikel is shit! haha! your whole argument is pathetic and is not even worth wasting anymore time with! keep thinking Mikel is average all you want, if it makes you happy! So i prove you wrong, and you can't tackle my argument, then you just say to me keep dreaming?.pathetic poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 So i prove you wrong, and you can't tackle my argument, then you just say to me keep dreaming?.pathetic poster.Your proof is entirely subjective. Come up with proper, hard, sports science evidence, like distance covered, successful challenges per season, interceptions, wattage output, etc. You still haven't qualified your argument. Pacquiao and jmarlow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 So i prove you wrong, and you can't tackle my argument, then you just say to me keep dreaming?.pathetic poster.please explain how you proved me wrong? you said Mikel never breaks up play! so i show you him breaking up play and you comeback with the typical lame response of 'YouTube videos can make anyone look good' the whole point of the video wasn't to show you how good Mikel is, just to show you him breaking up play! as you obviously dont watch him often so have never seen him do that! and then you say you can name games where Mikel was shit and you name two games!!! and then counter your argument by naming two bigger games where Mikel was outstanding! haha as i said your whole argument is pathetic and you haven't proved anything to anyone! but as i said if it helps you sleep at night keep thinking Mikel is shit! Pacquiao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Your proof is entirely subjective. Come up with proper, hard, sports science evidence, like distance covered, successful challenges per season, interceptions, wattage output, etc. You still haven't qualified your argument.My argument is the best, you shut your mouth!.Ah, and you said in the Marin thread about 'Robben', stats are very misleading!. I don't even check stats, i watch players, people look at Chiek Tiote and because he gets a yellow card every game they think he's a bad tackler, truth is Newcastle play such a risky game high up field he's always dragging a player back on purpose so he doesn't break through. He's a very clever player, who is an awesome tackler. Someone who is miles head of Mikel.And you can call this sort of a stat, when Tiote was injured and at the african cup of nations, Newcastle lost most of there games, i think they only won twice. Everyone was going on about Demba Ba not being there, load of bullshit, because Tiote got injured before the african cup of nations and they started losing games then. capriccioso 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 please explain how you proved me wrong? you said Mikel never breaks up play! so i show you him breaking up play and you comeback with the typical lame response of 'YouTube videos can make anyone look good' the whole point of the video wasn't to show you how good Mikel is, just to show you him breaking up play! as you obviously dont watch him often so have never seen him do that! and then you say you can name games where Mikel was shit and you name two games!!! and then counter your argument by naming two bigger games where Mikel was outstanding! haha as i said your whole argument is pathetic and you haven't proved anything to anyone! but as i said if it helps you sleep at night keep thinking Mikel is shit! That wasn't any evidence at all lmao, a 3 minute video what shows him breaking up play from 2 seasons ago?, brilliant that like. I just proved you wrong also, about how misleading youtube videos are, don't even make me find one about Emile Heskey because i will. Mikel is a shit player, and it's only Chelsea fans what are blinded by it, everyone else knows it.youtube is a terrible source, i watched full games on Hulk instead of videos, and i can assure you he's a good player. That player boro signed Alvez looked like Higuain on youtube, goes to boro for 16 million and scored about 4 goals in 30 odd games. That's just a typical example.I never named two games, i named every match under AVB, except for his first three games, actually leave West Brom out because the full team was just plain awful then. I just don't think he's good enough at all, definitely not a top 6 player and i don't think he ever will be. I bet you any money i watch him more than you, i watched near enough every Chelsea game last season and everyone Mikel played, and i am a favourite of DM's and watch them closely, because it's where i used to play when i played football. And Mikel simply isn't good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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