Korea 734 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 This.@Korea,You talk football like a 12 year old. comin from a 12 year old i think thats an insult.Or the fact that Pep publicly stated he plays 4-1-4-1 or the fact that it has been stated numerous times they play 4-1-4-1.might as well say 4-2-3-1 is 4-3-3 too than. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe_21 21 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Why spend money on Shaw? When we have Ryan Bertrand and that dutch lad on loan to Vitesse, he seems to have quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Why spend money on Shaw? When we have Ryan Bertrand and that dutch lad on loan to Vitesse, he seems to have quality.He looks promising, but the main reason is because he is english. If he wasnt english, yeah he has talent, but whenever I see him, its nothing realy that would made me wow. For age 18, he is good and will probably play for NT eventualy and for a very good club (if not biggest), but if he will reach heights of Cole, Alves, Evra,...I dont know. Part of me wants him because we desperately need some english blood in 1st 11. Other part tells me to look for other LB who could be cheaper and actualy much bigger potential. I always imagined you need super offensive fullback (Alves, Alaba, Cole) and balanced fullback (Abidal, Lahm, Ferreira). We have Azpi who is very balanced and on other side, we should have speedy fullback ala Cole, Alves. Shaw is not slow, but just not realy a LB who can drive the ball forward in seconds. If we can transform Wallace into LB it would be great. In the end, if we get Shaw, I will be pleased because he is english, but question is if the price will make justice. He isnt near worth 20/30 mio. If he actualy has top class potential, then its worth. But to pay soo much just for english nationality who will turn to be average, I rather look elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Shaw is not slow, but just not realy a LB who can drive the ball forward in seconds. Obviously haven't seen him play enough if you're saying that. AswinR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Obviously haven't seen him play enough if you're saying that. He uses his strenght more rather than pace...Not best comparison but Maicon was also very strong and he forced his way when running down the flanks. Alves for example, uses pace and dribbling to get past defenders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe_21 21 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 He looks promising, but the main reason is because he is english. If he wasnt english, yeah he has talent, but whenever I see him, its nothing realy that would made me wow. For age 18, he is good and will probably play for NT eventualy and for a very good club (if not biggest), but if he will reach heights of Cole, Alves, Evra,...I dont know.Part of me wants him because we desperately need some english blood in 1st 11. Other part tells me to look for other LB who could be cheaper and actualy much bigger potential.I always imagined you need super offensive fullback (Alves, Alaba, Cole) and balanced fullback (Abidal, Lahm, Ferreira). We have Azpi who is very balanced and on other side, we should have speedy fullback ala Cole, Alves. Shaw is not slow, but just not realy a LB who can drive the ball forward in seconds. If we can transform Wallace into LB it would be great.In the end, if we get Shaw, I will be pleased because he is english, but question is if the price will make justice. He isnt near worth 20/30 mio. If he actualy has top class potential, then its worth. But to pay soo much just for english nationality who will turn to be average, I rather look elsewhere.But Bertrand it's english, and formed in Chelsea. Or he is not good enough? I don't know him very well. You know Jan Oblak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 But Bertrand it's english, and formed in Chelsea. Or he is not good enough? I don't know him very well. You know Jan Oblak?I would say Bertrand is actualy very open option. Depends on how well he does in AV. He is better than most think, but if he wont impress in Villa, he wont get in team here...he was very good whenever given chance here, but our coaches never gave him longer run of games...its good that he is now going to play regular football in Av and we will see how he does.Yes I know Oblak, he is our most promising GK and will eventualy replace Handanovic...too bad we have two very good GKs and shit everywhere else...except for Kampl (Salzburg), he might rock Bundesliga soon if they buy him. As goes for Jan, he is doing fine in Benfica and should become very good GK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 He uses his strenght more rather than pace...Not best comparison but Maicon was also very strong and he forced his way when running down the flanks.Alves for example, uses pace and dribbling to get past defenders...I don't know if you remember the game last year against us, when we drew 2-2 against Southampton? Do you remember Luke Shaw's assist against us?He has the capabilities to use his pace to run down the flanks and produce an assist. Luke is strong on the ball.If you have forgotten, here is the highlight video. bababoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I don't know if you remember the game last year against us, when we drew 2-2 against Southampton? Do you remember Luke Shaw's assist against us?He has the capabilities to use his pace to run down the flanks and produce an assist. Luke is strong on the ball.If you have forgotten, here is the highlight video.I agree with you, he is fast and can deliver, but he isnt lighting fast ala Alaba, Alves or Cole (in best years). I will be happy to see him here, just hope we wont overpay due to his hype because he is english. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe_21 21 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I saw the last game of Aston Villa against Liverpool and he played very well, and it was his debut.Yeah he is a very very good GK, and we were really needed one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I agree with you, he is fast and can deliver, but he isnt lighting fast ala Alaba, Alves or Cole (in best years). I will be happy to see him here, just hope we wont overpay due to his hype because he is english.A common thing those you've mentioned have though is that they're all smaller than Luke is. Luke isn't lightning fast but he still has bags of pace, especially for one of his size. Physically he's very good, doesn't lack anything, and technically he's very good as well - good dribbler, technique is there. He's obviously a very composed young man too given that he's been entrusted with a starting spot at Southampton. You're right in saying that I hope we don't overpay though. I think that they would be tempted by a decent £15m-£20m offer though (which is the max I would go). As I said before he would be our starting left back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 One player I would love to come maybe, hopefully, probably not though in the summer would be Paul PogbaWith him I think we could become the best team in football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe_21 21 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Another option for LB is Alex Sandro (Porto), he is really good. He is very strong on the attack, very fast. But I think he is expensive like Shaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 One player I would love to come maybe, hopefully, probably not though in the summer would be Paul PogbaWith him I think we could become the best team in footballRamires and Matic for now are perfectly fine. Maybe in couple of years then...hope he stays in Juve till then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe_21 21 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Yeah, I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Can we get Vidal to play alongside matic????? That we bee insane sdrcfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DanishBlue 426 Posted January 27, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 27, 2014 Ramires is a very important player for us so why spend a lot of money on Vidal or Pogba when we already have a great player in Ramires? Waste of money imo. Better to use the money on a worldclass striker. Ainsley Harriott, jmarlow, AswinR and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AswinR 96 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 how good is pablo piatti? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,188 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 how good is pablo piatti?Had it for my tea last night.....average. Kezza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,992 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Phil Neville saying it's going to be a "good week" this week. Veiled tease there, I'd say.Expecting them to make another big name signing this week. Really hope it's not Shaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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