Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[Blue Gino 377]

Looking at the current "attacking" side of the midfield, Moses, Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Marin and Piazon, where will Kevin DeBruyne and Josh McEachran fit in? Will the two of them be sold? Piazon could be loaned for more action and Marin may end up back in Germany. But if Chelsea are going to bring in another striker funds need to be raised. Some loanees out there could be sold like Kakuta, Lalkovic, Van Aanholt, Gordon, Davila, Clifford, etc.

[osgoodisgod 150]

I would like to see a big sort of old fashioned English centre forward (he doesn't have to be English so get off your high horses...) It has worked for us in the past from Osgood through to Sparky and to other extents Flo, JFH and Drogba. I think we get too caught up in the flair and reputation when a big up front player who puts defenders and ball in the net works - like Hately (or his dad ) used to.

Defender wise -same thing, let them know they've been in a game and will need liniment on their legs instead of mosturiser. Midfield - nothing fancy - just something you can rely on for holding the ball and accurate passing - Makele, Wise types. Any flair has to come with a Zolaesque commitment and readiness.

Bring the old Chelsea - good, hard, reliable in terms of effort and commitment. It is out there, it's not me harking back to old times - these players will exist.

[Rmpr 8,977]

there are plenty: Pepe, Ramos, Pique, Puyol, Terry, Luiz (I find him to be great when his mind is right), Vermaelen, Boateng, Badstuber, Vidic, Thiago Silva, Hummels, Kompany, Chiellini, Rami, Alex (shame we sold him), Subotic, Lescott

Unavailable: Pepe, Pique, Thiago silva, Kompany and Chiellini

Wouldnt come: Ramos, Pyoul, Vidic, Alex and Rami

Arent Good: Luiz, Vermaelen, Boateng and Lescott

[EdenHazard 163]

Looking at the current "attacking" side of the midfield, Moses, Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Marin and Piazon, where will Kevin DeBruyne and Josh McEachran fit in? Will the two of them be sold? Piazon could be loaned for more action and Marin may end up back in Germany. But if Chelsea are going to bring in another striker funds need to be raised. Some loanees out there could be sold like Kakuta, Lalkovic, Van Aanholt, Gordon, Davila, Clifford, etc.

Both could play in the double-pivot, Don't see why they couldn't adapt. They're both young, and given the time and training in that position. They both could be great.

[Spike 12,049]

I seem to recall the one known as 'Alex' playing like an absolute muppet in his last few moments at Chelsea.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

I seem to recall the one known as 'Alex' playing like an absolute muppet in his last few moments at Chelsea.

Apart from scoring that screamer vs Arsenal!

[The Skipper 20,609]

After thinking it through a bit, I would like us to now purchase Fellaini to 1. Challenge our trinity 2. Provide options in the pivot if necessary. 3. Provide us a different option when going forward (aerial threat) 4. Add more steel in the team.

I was against this transfer before because people wanted to see him in the pivot which I don't think he's good enough for, but I can see him playing as an AM or SS effectively for us when needed. It all depends whether we want to stick with this supposed new philosophy the club is trying to create or not. If the aforementioned is the case then obviously his purchase would be going in the wrong direction for obvious reasons but I personally think we should have a varied style of play... If Fellaini would come in for anything under £25m (unlikely) I think it might just be a decent investment. He'd also be good if we switched to a 4-3-3 - e.g. Have a Mikel - Ramires - Fellaini midfield to physically dominate in the middle or have an Oscar - Fellaini - Mikel midfield for a more balanced approach - adding KDB, Lamps and McEachran in that we'd have plenty of options and combinations.

Another purchase I would absolutely love is us signing Cavani. The guy is talented enough to play in any system, he's that good... It's pretty self explanatory why he'd be a better signing than Falcao as he offers a lot more to the team in build up play - whether you're knocking it up the pitch or playing on the break or aiming to keep possession - he's that athletic and technically sound. At 6 ft. 2 he's no pushover either.

In the summer if we managed to bring in Cavani, Fellaini (for reasons stated above), bring back in McEachran and De Bruyne and let them challenge for the pivot... Sell Fernando - bring back in Lukaku and let him and Sturridge provide good back up to Cavani; I'd view this as a great summer. We add physicality and talent going forward with Fellaini and Cavani (and Lukaku) whilst adding technically to our pivot by bringing back in KDB and Josh.

[The Skipper 20,609]

If we could get Fellaini then that would be a massive upgrade on the DM position

What are you exactly basing this on? Because he's been good as a SS for Everton? Doesn't mean he's an upgrade on Mikel in DM... Doesn't correlate at all. It isn't his best position - he hasn't been playing well and scoring from a DM position, so why do people compare? He came to the UK as a DM but has redeveloped his game massively since.

[Tomo 21,751]

If i was offered Cavani and Bent for forwards this window i would snap the person's hand off.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

1. Fellaini is far from what we need in midfield, i dont see where the talk about him is coming from. he's a good attacker for a team like Everton, he isnt a top class midfielder. he's defense is very poor compare to good DM's, and he cant pass that good. In my eyes we need someone who can pass the ball better and get the team going forword, dont know if this player need to come instead of Ramires or Mikel.

2. There is a reason why Dzeko isnt playing well when he's starting for City. Dzeko cant combine too good with technical players like City have in their attack and he isnt

too comfortable with City's kind of football. Now why is he scoring so many goals when he's a sub? he plays in the end of games, when city got to score a goal and they are in presure, Mancini throws everything he has in the bench and they are starting to play other football- labs, alot of through balls, ball is wander around the box because of the amount of strikers in the field, and Dzeko is a very good finisher with great heading abillity so he's their ultimate weapon in those situations that heppend alot so far this season. To sum up, not our first striker at all.

[Rmpr 8,977]

After thinking it through a bit, I would like us to now purchase Fellaini to 1. Challenge our trinity 2. Provide options in the pivot if necessary. 3. Provide us a different option when going forward (aerial threat) 4. Add more steel in the team.

I was against this transfer before because people wanted to see him in the pivot which I don't think he's good enough for, but I can see him playing as an AM or SS effectively for us when needed. It all depends whether we want to stick with this supposed new philosophy the club is trying to create or not. If the aforementioned is the case then obviously his purchase would be going in the wrong direction for obvious reasons but I personally think we should have a varied style of play... If Fellaini would come in for anything under £25m (unlikely) I think it might just be a decent investment. He'd also be good if we switched to a 4-3-3 - e.g. Have a Mikel - Ramires - Fellaini midfield to physically dominate in the middle or have an Oscar - Fellaini - Mikel midfield for a more balanced approach - adding KDB, Lamps and McEachran in that we'd have plenty of options and combinations.

Another purchase I would absolutely love is us signing Cavani. The guy is talented enough to play in any system, he's that good... It's pretty self explanatory why he'd be a better signing than Falcao as he offers a lot more to the team in build up play - whether you're knocking it up the pitch or playing on the break or aiming to keep possession - he's that athletic and technically sound. At 6 ft. 2 he's no pushover either.

In the summer if we managed to bring in Cavani, Fellaini (for reasons stated above), bring back in McEachran and De Bruyne and let them challenge for the pivot... Sell Fernando - bring back in Lukaku and let him and Sturridge provide good back up to Cavani; I'd view this as a great summer. We add physicality and talent going forward with Fellaini and Cavani (and Lukaku) whilst adding technically to our pivot by bringing back in KDB and Josh.

I dont think Fellaini is close to what we need. He does not fit our playing style at all and he would only make things difficult to Oscar and KDB.

Cavani, well, he is perfect. The only problem I see is that Roman cant stand a strikeless team anymore and Cavani wont move before the summer. If Abramovich really makes a move in January (Falcao, Lewandoski, etc), our hopes of signing him diminishes to almost nothing.

MY DREAM TEAM FOR NEXT YEAR:

GK: Cech, Courtois, Turnbull

RB: Azi, Iva

CB: JT, X, Cahill, Iva, Chabollah

LB: Baines, Bertrand

DM: Mikel, Luiz, Romeu, Chabollah

CM: Oscar, KDB, Ramires

AM: Mata, Oscar, Hazard, Marin

W: Hazard, Moses, Marin, Piazon

CF: Piazon, Jovetic

ST: Cavani, Lukaku

OBS: I would love someone for the pivot role (De Rossi, Vidal, Busquets, etc). I just think we need to test some of our own players first (Oscar, KDB, Luiz, Chabollah, etc).

OBS2: We would be leaving some spaces for our youngsters and we would also aquire some leadership (X, Baines and Cavani).

OBS3: It isnt the best possible squad, but it does have balance and quality. A great manager can easily turn this into a good team!

[Spike 12,049]

I dont think Fellaini is close to what we need. He does not fit our playing style at all and he would only make things difficult to Oscar and KDB.

Cavani, well, he is perfect. The only problem I see is that Roman cant stand a strikeless team anymore and Cavani wont move before the summer. If Abramovich really makes a move in January (Falcao, Lewandoski, etc), our hopes of signing him diminishes to almost nothing.

MY DREAM TEAM FOR NEXT YEAR:

GK: Cech, Courtois, Turnbull

RB: Azi, Iva

CB: JT, X, Cahill, Iva, Chabollah

LB: Baines, Bertrand

DM: Mikel, Luiz, Romeu, Chabollah

CM: Oscar, KDB, Ramires

AM: Mata, Oscar, Hazard, Marin

W: Hazard, Moses, Marin, Piazon

CF: Piazon, Jovetic

ST: Cavani, Lukaku

What do you suppose the difference between a Centre Foward and a Striker is? Surely you are not using the FIFA videogames terminology?

[Rmpr 8,977]

What do you suppose the difference between a Centre Foward and a Striker is? Surely you are not using the FIFA videogames terminology?

LOL

No, it is not FIFA terminology (well, it also is).

Well, in Portuguese there are two positions for an attacking player: "atacante" (CF) and "centroavante" (ST). We usually differentiate them by saying the first isnt a static inside the box player (like a second striker) and usually participates more in the build up and the second is a poacher. Since I am not a native speaker, it might not exist in English. Then, I am sorry!

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I would like to see a big sort of old fashioned English centre forward (he doesn't have to be English so get off your high horses...) It has worked for us in the past from Osgood through to Sparky and to other extents Flo, JFH and Drogba. I think we get too caught up in the flair and reputation when a big up front player who puts defenders and ball in the net works - like Hately (or his dad ) used to.

Defender wise -same thing, let them know they've been in a game and will need liniment on their legs instead of mosturiser. Midfield - nothing fancy - just something you can rely on for holding the ball and accurate passing - Makele, Wise types. Any flair has to come with a Zolaesque commitment and readiness.

Bring the old Chelsea - good, hard, reliable in terms of effort and commitment. It is out there, it's not me harking back to old times - these players will exist.

honestly we need more players that love chelsea and put in 100% effort in our matches(terry, lamps, cole, drogba, mata) sometimes hardwork can be better than skill

[Sheva. 5,373]

Just looking at that, there's no need for Jovetic. A better DM would make more sense to me.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Just looking at that, there's no need for Jovetic. A better DM would make more sense to me.

Read OBS?

Jovetic just because I bought him on FM ()!

[Sheva. 5,373]

Read OBS?

Jovetic just because I bought him on FM ( )!

Obs? and fair enough lol.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Obs?

Observation...

OBS: I would love someone for the pivot role (De Rossi, Vidal, Busquets, etc). I just think we need to test some of our own players first (Oscar, KDB, Luiz, Chabollah, etc).

[Spike 12,049]

LOL

No, it is not FIFA terminology (well, it also is).

Well, in Portuguese there are two positions for an attacking player: "atacante" (CF) and "centroavante" (ST). We usually differentiate them by saying the first isnt a static inside the box player (like a second striker) and usually participates more in the build up and the second is a poacher. Since I am not a native speaker, it might not exist in English. Then, I am sorry!

It's a bit different in ol' English. Our terminology for positions is up for debate most of the time but I consider thusly:

• A Centre Foward is a Striker that plays through the middle. With the term CF I think of mainly a big number 9, a target man, like Andy Carrol or Drogba.
  
• Messi is a Striker but isn't a CF, even though he plays through the middle.
  
• Pedro is also a Striker even though he plays out wide and still isn't a CF.
  

I don't know, it's all semantics.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

After thinking it through a bit, I would like us to now purchase Fellaini to 1. Challenge our trinity 2. Provide options in the pivot if necessary. 3. Provide us a different option when going forward (aerial threat) 4. Add more steel in the team.

I was against this transfer before because people wanted to see him in the pivot which I don't think he's good enough for, but I can see him playing as an AM or SS effectively for us when needed. It all depends whether we want to stick with this supposed new philosophy the club is trying to create or not. If the aforementioned is the case then obviously his purchase would be going in the wrong direction for obvious reasons but I personally think we should have a varied style of play... If Fellaini would come in for anything under £25m (unlikely) I think it might just be a decent investment. He'd also be good if we switched to a 4-3-3 - e.g. Have a Mikel - Ramires - Fellaini midfield to physically dominate in the middle or have an Oscar - Fellaini - Mikel midfield for a more balanced approach - adding KDB, Lamps and McEachran in that we'd have plenty of options and combinations.

Another purchase I would absolutely love is us signing Cavani. The guy is talented enough to play in any system, he's that good... It's pretty self explanatory why he'd be a better signing than Falcao as he offers a lot more to the team in build up play - whether you're knocking it up the pitch or playing on the break or aiming to keep possession - he's that athletic and technically sound. At 6 ft. 2 he's no pushover either.

In the summer if we managed to bring in Cavani, Fellaini (for reasons stated above), bring back in McEachran and De Bruyne and let them challenge for the pivot... Sell Fernando - bring back in Lukaku and let him and Sturridge provide good back up to Cavani; I'd view this as a great summer. We add physicality and talent going forward with Fellaini and Cavani (and Lukaku) whilst adding technically to our pivot by bringing back in KDB and Josh.

very true. After the westham game i saw how bad things can get if our amigos have a bad game, they were bullied of the ball easily. If there was more strength in our team, we will still be able to win difficult games.