Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 48 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: A nonsense statement by Cruyff, surely? Are there two better team players, players whose passing is excellent, whose contribution makes their teammates more effective and improves their team? Everybody in their right mind would wonder what qualifies me to question Johan Cruyff's opinion on football, but can anyone really question that, on this subject at least, my description of what those two bring is without doubt more accurate than the late great Johan's? Kinda get what he said though. Under Guardiola Barcelona was more of a machine. They pulled together, everyone in that team had a specific role (apart from Messi) to suit the system and the team. With Neymar, Suarez and Messi there's more of an emphasis on individual brilliance and less on team effort. Messi being pushed out wide to make room for Suarez changed the dynamic of the team because Messi does very little defensively and doesn't stay wide. Neymar the same. That puts more pressure on Barca's defense and midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 58 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said: Kinda get what he said though. Under Guardiola Barcelona was more of a machine. They pulled together, everyone in that team had a specific role (apart from Messi) to suit the system and the team. With Neymar, Suarez and Messi there's more of an emphasis on individual brilliance and less on team effort. Messi being pushed out wide to make room for Suarez changed the dynamic of the team because Messi does very little defensively and doesn't stay wide. Neymar the same. That puts more pressure on Barca's defense and midfield. Completely agree with what you said, but still MSN is probably best attack in history of football. They were unplayable in their first season when barca won CL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blusan Alamb 295 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 IN: Sandro/Telles, Sergi Roberto/Chamberlain, Cancelo/Cedric, Drinkwater OUT: Diego Costa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Tbh this window can still turn out to be very good very easily. We just need only at least 2 more class signings to go from disaster to success and declare our squad genuinely upgraded, and we have plenty of time to do what's required. Squad management to this point has been questionable, yes, but by judging solely the transfer period and nothing else we are alright. Still time left, don't lose hope, we are Chelsea after all nothing is ever obvious. I can see twists coming to this tale and us being much more pleased with state of things next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 hours ago, manpe said: Tbh this window can still turn out to be very good very easily. We just need only at least 2 more class signings to go from disaster to success and declare our squad genuinely upgraded, and we have plenty of time to do what's required. Squad management to this point has been questionable, yes, but by judging solely the transfer period and nothing else we are alright. Still time left, don't lose hope, we are Chelsea after all nothing is ever obvious. I can see twists coming to this tale and us being much more pleased with state of things next month. Regardless of situation, I expect chelsea to sign at least midfielder and wingback. Be it on last day, there is absolutely no way we wont sign at least two new players. I could bet a house on that. The question is who. And then we will see if it was successful window or not. Problem is, we had whole summer knowing we need two quality wingbacks. And if two quality wingbacks wont be here come 1st september, I think we can safely say we didnt solve the issues we knew for quite a while. In short we needed midfielder, two wingbacks and squad fillers. Next summer quality RW and CB. At least that was what you would expect after watching past season. Christensen should get chance before forking millions for new CB, hence why we should get one next summer if necessary. Pedro on other hand performed well enough to start another season. Unless there was some exceptional RW available for us, but there wasnt one. However midfielder and two wingbacks were absolute must. And striker knowing Costa situation. We did adress striker issue and bought Baka aswell, but sold Matic, leaving us short. Then we needed two wingbacks, because it was clear as day this season, also playing in europe, we will need backup there and probably more quality. It would make perfect sense to get two top wingbacks, but so far nothing. To me, this window will be successful if we get these two quality wingbacks and backup midfielder. Anything else will only prolong our problems till next summer, hence poor management of the situation. On another note, I expect us to remain competitive with manchesters, and big chance the results will say otherwise, so far we have gone behind real quick in just two months. Either buying wise or spending millions, we have to remain near top. Sideshow Luiz and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrenshah 186 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 If we are to buy 3 players I would go for sergi roberto (covers cdm and rb slot) Bellotti (once costa is sold) Mahrez (Upgrade to willian n pedro) Lb we can keep baba rahman as understudy of alonso (Alonso has been a beast) Cb we have luiz, azpi, cahill, rudiger and christeansen We can play 4222 Courtois Sergi roberto-luiz-Azpi-alonso Bakayoko-kante Mahrez-hazard Bellotti-morata Sound a bit fifaish But there will be no messing about with dis team Full backs still bomb forward and when they do we can have both cdms come back in defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Ross Barkley can kiss Spurs, Chelsea moves goodbye after suffering torn hamstring https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2017/8/16/16155522/ross-barkley-hamstring-injury-chelsea-tottenham-hotspur-transfer-rumors-end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 13 Players sold/released (not including costa) 4 players brought in. 25 players loaned out. we cant even field a full team at the moment. If its not a busy next 2 weeks we are in some serious trouble for the season and Conte is as good as gone next summer. Sorry to be a downer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 matuidi to juventus fc for 20 millions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, Antonio8 said: matuidi to juventus fc for 20 millions How were aren't in for him at the very least is mindbogglingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Sigurdsson for 45m is giant amount of money, but I think he is actualy one of the better, underrated players in premier league. Im sure he will be good adition for them. Amblève., King11Didier, killer1257 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Two weeks left before the window slams shut and our two primary targets for the LWB position are Sandro and Rose MUST. NOT. LOAN. BABA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Andre Gomes has to be hands down worst midfielder in any of top clubs. I pray we dont make a bid for him lol. Blue-in-me-Veins and Supermonkey92 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Okay, I've stayed patient so far in this transfer window but think I'm starting to lose it. 2 weeks left and we appear no closer to signing anyone, not even after the Burnley disaster on Saturday. All we hear/read is the club is interested in player X, Y, Z but not doing anything concrete! It's all preparing bid (WTF?!), keeping tabs (OMG!) or penny pinching (FML!). mccg and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Damn Barcelona is a mess. We should take advantage of that and really try to sign Sergi Roberto. He's the fourth best player we've been linked with all summer, after Sandro, Bonucci and Morata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 16 hours ago, LAM09 said: How were aren't in for him at the very least is mindbogglingly. He is 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jernej93 569 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Just two more games and we will be a total different team after international break with Hazard and Bakayoko fit and some new players 😊 Rose/Bertrand for LWB Ox/Cedric for RWB One player for midfield cover (Drinkwater?) Chelseabluerising 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 looks like draxler is leaving psg. would be a great signing. communicate and Chelseabluerising 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I am still hoping for 2 more signings cm and wb but it looks it is going to be difficult. We don't need a brilliant player for CM because he is going to be just rotation player, not sure why we haven't signed any. Matuidi is not a option because he is 30. If we sign a 30 years old cm, we will have the same problem again next year. On wb side I understand that we need upgrade for wb, that is difficult at this point, good fb are very rare. Not sure who, we lose 3 players to city. I understand that walker and mendy are too expensive but we also lose Danilo which is is a shame. I thought he was dreadful last season defensively for real but he should be ok for wb position. People say ox, 1st ox need to say that he want to leave but I haven't heard any rumor so I don't expect any movement at all. Chelseabluerising 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 He is 30Drinkwater is 27 and isn't close to his level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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