Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 This "ban" could be bad for Chelsea in their pursuit of Pogba.In what ways? Genuine question.If anything wouldnt it make it a 2-horse race between PSG & us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 In what ways?Genuine question.Well first off it will put Real Madrid in overdrive. If they know they're facing a ban they will do everything in their power to get the right players in before the ban commences. Also, eliminates other potential targets such as Koke and Isco making Pogba the only well sought after player out there... The market price may go up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Well first off it will put Real Madrid in overdrive. If they know they're facing a ban they will do everything in their power to get the right players in before the ban commences. Also, eliminates other potential targets such as Koke and Isco making Pogba the only well sought after player out there... The market price may go up. True, but the reports are saying that FIFA wants the ban to start this summer. And while Real & Atletico will probably appeal,, IIRC Real had been warned about this matter, around January (during the martin Odegaard signing) but those allegations were cleared up. Thats why Im not so sure they'll let them push this further down the line like Barca did because they had already been warned. We Hate Scouse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Well first off it will put Real Madrid in overdrive. If they know they're facing a ban they will do everything in their power to get the right players in before the ban commences. Also, eliminates other potential targets such as Koke and Isco making Pogba the only well sought after player out there... The market price may go up. To me it seems like Real wants Verratti rather than Pogba. Pogba is more on the same position as Isco/James. Verratti's role as the DLP, is more important for them as Modric is 30. Just my opinion... might be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 True, but the reports are saying that FIFA wants the ban to start this summer. And while Real & Atletico will probably appeal,, IIRC Real had been warned about this matter, around January (during the martin Odegaard signing) but those allegations were cleared up. Thats why Im not so sure they'll let them push this further down the line like Barca did because they had already been warned.I hope you're right but Real Madrid being who they are will find a way I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Isn't ban mean that Real and Atletico can't buy players? they can still sell them, of course the wouldn't be selling knowning they couldn't buy anyone.Will Danillo still come to Real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Isn't ban mean that Real and Atletico can't buy players? they can still sell them, of course the wouldn't be selling knowning they couldn't buy anyone.Will Danillo still come to Real?Yes, he will. Real Madrid saw this coming so this is why they've rushed the Danilo, Odegaard, Lucas Silva and Asensio deals. That ban will start on 29th of May IIRC, so Real Madrid and Atletico can still sign players before that date. Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Yes, he will. Real Madrid saw this coming so this is why they've rushed the Danilo, Odegaard, Lucas Silva and Asensio deals. That ban will start on 29th of May IIRC, so Real Madrid and Atletico can still sign players before that date. Since when you can buy the players whole year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 It seems that the news of the sanction of Real Madrid and Atletico are increasingly being confirmed.According to "Cadena Ser"; Real Madrid and Atletico de Madrid will be sanctioned by FIFA for his policy of signing young players immediately. This sanction would be the same as that of Barcelona, that is, two Transfer Windows (Summer - January) without doing any signing."Cadena Ser" is the most important Radio in Spain, and they are quite reliable in this type of information (they rarely fail). In addition, other radios and newspapers have also confirmed the news, but Real Madrid says it is too early to speak of a sanction.In Spain it is said that even Danilo could not come this summer. So players like Pogba, Verratti or Reus would be in the market without the danger of Real Madrid.This can be a great opportunity for us. But it also means it will be harder to sign players like Koke and Isco ...Regards. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Since when you can buy the players whole year ?Teams can buy players whenever they want, but can only register them in between the official dates. Barcelona can sign players, too, but can't register them before June 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Real with an offical announcement rejected the reports:http://www.realmadrid.com/en/news/2015/04/official-announcementAtletico also denies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 About Real Madrid: Today Real Madrid has made an official communication that says that all the information published about a possible sanction from FIFA against Real Madrid they are totally false and that information only are intended to continue a campaign against Real Madrid and Florentino Perez. In fact, many other media have categorically denied that possible sanction and only speak about Atletico de Madrid. This seems like a fight between means of communication advocates to Real Madrid and Means of communication opponents to Real Madrid.It is true that there is a campaign by several media against Real Madrid and Florentino Perez. We just wait to see what happens, but Pogba's future may be at stake with this sanction.Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Don't know how to feel about this if it does happen. I think its probably our only chance to grab Pogba and Reus. I highly doubt Pogba will go to France he would simply waste his career. As for Reus can't see anyone needing him as much as we do except City and maybe PSG which both are below us. Hopefully our board is smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 About Real Madrid: Today Real Madrid has made an official communication that says that all the information published about a possible sanction from FIFA against Real Madrid they are totally false and that information only are intended to continue a campaign against Real Madrid and Florentino Perez. In fact, many other media have categorically denied that possible sanction and only speak about Atletico de Madrid. This seems like a fight between means of communication advocates to Real Madrid and Means of communication opponents to Real Madrid.It is true that there is a campaign by several media against Real Madrid and Florentino Perez. We just wait to see what happens, but Pogba's future may be at stake with this sanction.Regards.They will appeal just like Barcelona did. And while their appeal is being heard, they will sign players in this summer just like Barcelona did. As regards to Pogba this news is bad for us because Real have all the more incentive to complete the signing this window now. It might even make a Hazard transfer come into play if Real go completely nuts. supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,930 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3063304/Manchester-United-afford-Gareth-Bale-summer-targets-Memphis-Depay-Mats-Hummels-Nathaniel-Clyne-club-benefit-new-kit-deal-Euro-return.htmlAnd so it begins. Looks like they're briefing the media already of their intentions to buy the title back. They're going to spend an unbelievable amount of money this summer.We must make sure our buys are smart and perfect just like we did last summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 "buy the title" is what we did exactly this season. Thats the way it goes.United can afford to spend a lot, the question is if those big players who cost a lot could come to United. Bale would be very hard, and if somehow it happens it would cost De Gea. Cant see Pogba choosing to come back there. Right now it looks like Hummels and Clyne are done deals or going to be, i believe they are waiting with Depay because they want Bale, but they could lose both when Depay would go to Liverpool while they watch Bale staying put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 "buy the title" is what we did exactly this season. Thats the way it goes.United can afford to spend a lot, the question is if those big players who cost a lot could come to United. Bale would be very hard, and if somehow it happens it would cost De Gea. Cant see Pogba choosing to come back there. Right now it looks like Hummels and Clyne are done deals or going to be, i believe they are waiting with Depay because they want Bale, but they could lose both when Depay would go to Liverpool while they watch Bale staying put.Depay already played under LvG during the WC of last summer. Fighting for trophies and CL or fighting for top 4 and play in the Europa league, easy decision.Bale won't be cheap, but I don't think he's happy at Madrid. Think Madrid will sell if they can find another galactico like Reus/Eden (no chance) to replace him. Depay Rooney Bale Gundogan Herrera Carrick Shaw Hummels Jones Clyne De Gea Not too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Writing this line up means nothing, they need to sign all those 5 players first. And i cant see them signing all of them. I especially cant see them signing Depay AND Bale.And about Depay, all reports are saying Liverpool are ahead, they say United only "following" but nothing formal or serious like what Livepool did so far. Which includes manager and football director talking to him directly and trying to convince him. and according to reports he finds them to be a good place to go to. About Bale, dont think Perez will want to sell him so quickly. Its early days though, we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Ok back on topic, since I think this thread is to discuss transfers of our team.I want to discuss about the "likely outs" part.Cech - think this one is for sure (99%)Mikel - Zouma has basically replaced him as the lock on the door in the final minutes and the backup for Matic. Think he will leave, with his final EPL medal (90%)Drogba - to go to the MLS league or to become our 4th striker player/coach? He confirmed he will play on after this season, at Chelsea or not. (70%)Remy - great back up, but struggled with injuries over the season and especially when Diego was injured, he was too. Can see the club selling him if a good bid comes in and buying a real rival for Diego. (50%)Filipe Luis - win trophies and stay or go away and play? As long JT is our starter, I can imagine Mou won't drop Azpi at LB. Those two have builded an understanding which is vital for our defense. So it would just be repeat of this season for him, unfortunately, as I am a big fan of him. Going back to Atletico as a deal for Koke? (50%) Oscar - I think he has a lot of value on the transfer market, the #10 of Brazil and Chelsea, 23 years old and not bad looking. If a "Luiz bid" comes in I can see Mourinho considering selling him, since he doesn't trust Oscar in big away games, and Oscar failed 3 seasons in a row at the last part of the season. (40%)Ramires - "my ramires is back" normally I don't think Mourinho will sell him as he loves Ramires. But if Ramires is pushing for a move himself due the lack of first team appearances, I can see the club selling him for 15-20M (30%)Other than the above mentioned, I can't see anyone leaving. Maybe a loan for some youngsters. What you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,717 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 stroey that sounds about right. I think our urgent needs are a striker, once again. Like I said, Man City will more than likely be doing a complete overhaul and fire sale, hence a proven, yet more than likely cheap option in Dzeko will be available IMO. If Costa goes down for a while, he is good enough to come in and score goals, and lead the line. Plus he won't hit our off season spending too much. Someone to pair with Matic is obviously where a decent chunk of our money will be going by the consensus. That and a CB for the future. Another winger will be wanted, but how much so considering we've got a few options there? We need to wait a little and see if Cuadrado works out, and Willian is breaking into stride nicely now, although he is much better in the middle, and if we get someone to pair with Matic, then Cesc will be playing there. The main priority for me is a partner for Matic and a striker that we can use if Costa isn't available. We can't have the likes of a Drogba who is 37 leading us for a large chunk. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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