didierforever 7,349 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Are you serious. Jose dropped an old carvalho and an injured pepe, who was proned to doing rash things...Varane didn't start over a healthy pepe, he started because pepe was injured and kept his placed because of the good results... Cahill still starts games and unless zouma plays the rest of the season as starter, your argument is invalid. Bamford not starting in the premiere league at his age is not the same thing as Drogba. Drogba didn't play academy football as a kid and isn't from England, Bamford is. He needs to go to a premiere league side, than maybe he can play as the 3rd striker...the same pepe who was probably one of the best defenders last season and helped RM win the CL? your point was that jose did not do youth which was wrong. GC was dropped. why does zouma have to start all throughout the rest of the season for my argument to be valid. thats just LOL. go and read what you had written. oh, so you want bamford to go for a PL loan, like WBA? what if he scores 17 goals for them. i know what will happen then, people like you will say, "its not the same playing for WBA as it is playing for chelsea. he needs to go out on loan to a proper team where he can learn to play against packed defences". and sounds too familair does not it? someone even said that courtois should go out on loan and get a feel of PL, so i am not really that surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 the same pepe who was probably one of the best defenders last season and helped RM win the CL? your point was that jose did not do youth which was wrong. GC was dropped. why does zouma have to start all throughout the rest of the season for my argument to be valid. thats just LOL. go and read what you had written. oh, so you want bamford to go for a PL loan, like WBA? what if he scores 17 goals for them. i know what will happen then, people like you will say, "its not the same playing for WBA as it is playing for chelsea. he needs to go out on loan to a proper team where he can learn to play against packed defences". and sounds too familair does not it? someone even said that courtois should go out on loan and get a feel of PL, so i am not really that surprised.Yes, Jose really gives youth a chance....... Tell that to an unbaised fan. Jose and youth are total opposites... At tottenham, guys like mason, bentalab, kane, dier are all getting signficant gametime... THe spurs had the youngest starting 11 this season...... Actually, people said lukaku was good enought for backup because of his good goal rate during his loan spans. People said lukaku wasn't good enough to start at chelsea. 2 different things.... Bamford is not good enough for Jose as a 3rd striker. Looked at who chelsea's 3rd striker was during Jose's era.Demba BaRemyAnd now you are proposing Bamford... You see what the difference is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Yes, Jose really gives youth a chance....... Tell that to an unbaised fan. Jose and youth are total opposites... At tottenham, guys like mason, bentalab, kane, dier are all getting signficant gametime... THe spurs had the youngest starting 11 this season...... Actually, people said lukaku was good enought for backup because of his good goal rate during his loan spans. People said lukaku wasn't good enough to start at chelsea. 2 different things.... Bamford is not good enough for Jose as a 3rd striker. Looked at who chelsea's 3rd striker was during Jose's era.Demba BaRemyAnd now you are proposing Bamford... You see what the difference is... nd kane plays for a manager that dropped his veterans for young kids.this is what you said which i had a problem with. did i say jose gives chances to youth and would drop matic for RLC. so dont try and put words into my mouth and digress from the argument, which is exactly what you have continued doing here. irrespective of age, jose has chosen kids to start over veterans when those veterans have slumped.you know something, i can almost bet everything i have on the fact that you have not even watched bamford once. you have not given a single valid reason of why bamford would not be a good 3rd choice striker except that he "has not played at the highest level". right now our 3rd striker is DD, and as much as i love DD, i can safely say, bamford is as good at the moment or definitely not far behind. he is a good finisher, has good pace, his movement is pretty decent. obviously there is a massive dearth of experience and the know how, but guess what, he wont get that unless given a chance. also, when jose came here, our AM options were oscar, willian, hazard, mata, schurrle, kdb... right now, our 5th and 6th AMs are boga and brown. i can indeed see the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveLamp 270 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Yes, Jose really gives youth a chance....... Tell that to an unbaised fan. Jose and youth are total opposites... At tottenham, guys like mason, bentalab, kane, dier are all getting signficant gametime... THe spurs had the youngest starting 11 this season...... Actually, people said lukaku was good enought for backup because of his good goal rate during his loan spans. People said lukaku wasn't good enough to start at chelsea. 2 different things.... Bamford is not good enough for Jose as a 3rd striker. Looked at who chelsea's 3rd striker was during Jose's era.Demba BaRemyAnd now you are proposing Bamford... You see what the difference is... Just to interject in your little love-in guys, as far as I know Mourinho would have been very happy to have Lukaku as a back-up and it was the player who didn't want that role and so wanted to leave.I disagree that Remy is 3rd choice. I would be VERY surprised if he didn't start against Everton. Drogbas last few performances should make sure he is 3rd choice.I don't see the problem with making Bamford 3rd choice (Behind Diego and Remy) and seeing how it goes next season. didierforever and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 nd kane plays for a manager that dropped his veterans for young kids.this is what you said which i had a problem with. did i say jose gives chances to youth and would drop matic for RLC. so dont try and put words into my mouth and digress from the argument, which is exactly what you have continued doing here. irrespective of age, jose has chosen kids to start over veterans when those veterans have slumped.you know something, i can almost bet everything i have on the fact that you have not even watched bamford once. you have not given a single valid reason of why bamford would not be a good 3rd choice striker except that he "has not played at the highest level". right now our 3rd striker is DD, and as much as i love DD, i can safely say, bamford is as good at the moment or definitely not far behind. he is a good finisher, has good pace, his movement is pretty decent. obviously there is a massive dearth of experience and the know how, but guess what, he wont get that unless given a chance. also, when jose came here, our AM options were oscar, willian, hazard, mata, schurrle, kdb... right now, our 5th and 6th AMs are boga and brown. i can indeed see the difference. And pochetti completely ditched them from the team... Not just for a game or 2. Kane is on a team where he can grow, with very little expectations. No one put the spurs in the top 4 category. Bamford, even as a 3rd striker would have huge expectations, like remy has played this season and even ba last season, ther 3rd striker role will become significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 And pochetti completely ditched them from the team... Not just for a game or 2. Kane is on a team where he can grow, with very little expectations. No one put the spurs in the top 4 category. Bamford, even as a 3rd striker would have huge expectations, like remy has played this season and even ba last season, ther 3rd striker role will become significant. and now we are off to discuss poccetino and jose. digress digress and then digress some more. your point was that jose does drop his veterans for kids and i have proved that is a load of crap. what pocchetino does or does not do, i dont give a shit.the 3rd striker role will have some responsibility and pressure. but it would be the perfect amount of it to judge if bamford does have a futue with us, hence the 3rd striker role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 and now we are off to discuss poccetino and jose. digress digress and then digress some more. your point was that jose does drop his veterans for kids and i have proved that is a load of crap. what pocchetino does or does not do, i dont give a shit.the 3rd striker role will have some responsibility and pressure. but it would be the perfect amount of it to judge if bamford does have a futue with us, hence the 3rd striker role.Actually, your point was that Jose drops a veteran for kids... You brought up Harry Kane. As I said before, Kane does not play for Jose and Chelsea, his situation is completely different than Bamford. You don't go from Demba ba to remy to bamford. Might as well bring back Piazon to play 3rd striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Actually, your point was that Jose drops a veteran for kids... You brought up Harry Kane. As I said before, Kane does not play for Jose and Chelsea, his situation is completely different than Bamford. You don't go from Demba ba to remy to bamford. Might as well bring back Piazon to play 3rd striker. what?let me refresh your memory.you said that a 21 year old player who has not played football at the highest level should not be our 3rd striker. i said that a 21 year old harry kane who had not played at the highest level of football is literally carrying the team. and then you came out with jose does not drop his vetrans for kids, which i have proved to be crap. you can go to the previous page and please check the facts. even after me and another person and the fact that jose started remy against city, u still persist with remy being our 3rd striker. you still have not given me a single fault in bamford's game and why he is CAPABLE of being our 3rd striker. its clear that you have not even watched him ever. so why dont you discuss something or someone that you do know about. and again, for the 5th AM we have gone from mata to salah to brown. so things are are changing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 your point was that jose does drop his veterans for kids and i have proved that is a load of crap. what pocchetino does or does not do, i dont give a shit.Maybe you don't know what you wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Maybe you don't know what you wrote.hahha,, not worth it. seems so much like a troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Getting back on topic...KDB to return?!?! TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 If Milner isn't going to sign that new contract at City, might be worth getting him. Perfect for Mourinho and can still do a consistent job.. Reddish-Blue, Viper22 and petre.ispirescu 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 If Milner isn't going to sign that new contract at City, might be worth getting him. Perfect for Mourinho and can still do a consistent job..Signing Milner would also help our Homegrown quota (but I doubt he'll sign for us) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I would like to see more on Constantin Nica, RB for Cesena, on-loan from Atalanta. Interesting young player. Have any of you seen him much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I would like to see more on Constantin Nica, RB for Cesena, on-loan from Atalanta. Interesting young player. Have any of you seen him much?I watched him when he came on yesterday against Juve. He played quite well, but I haven't seen him on a regular basis. quickpassnmove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 hahha,, not worth it. seems so much like a troll.Thorgan looks good as a chelsea player next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Thorgan looks good as a chelsea player next seasonwhy did not we loan him again as per your thinking for 5 more seasons. who are our 5th and 6th AMs currently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 why did not we loan him again as per your thinking for 5 more seasons. who are our 5th and 6th AMs currently?He was essentially loaned again, which is why he has a buy back clause unlike lukaku, kdb, mata or luiz... The 5th and 6th ams are ramires and whoever comes in to play striker next season with remy.Hazard nor bamford will be on first team next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 He was essentially loaned again, which is why he has a buy back clause unlike lukaku, kdb, mata or luiz... The 5th and 6th ams are ramires and whoever comes in to play striker next season with remy.Hazard nor bamford will be on first team next season.thats got to be the weirdest extrapolation. the 5th and 6th AM is brown and boga currently. thorgan would have been a massive upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 thats got to be the weirdest extrapolation. the 5th and 6th AM is brown and boga currently. thorgan would have been a massive upgrade.5th am is ramires and remy.There is also astu, moses, piazon, traore, etc... It's irrelevant if hazard is an upgrade, because brown and boga are unknown players in the senior level. Jose will probably go to south america and find another am to sign in the summer and another cf, neither thorgan nor bamford will be them anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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