capriccioso 2,545 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Sydney looks like a nice place. Would love to visit it there.BTW since you are from Sydney, have you ever giving money to big institution churches like Hill$song?Better watch that kind of talk Justin. The mods are clamping down on off-topic, you know. Come by one time, I'll show you around So, after a quick search on google, he's turned Inter down? That leaves us in competition with Real Madrid only, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Better watch that kind of talk Justin. The mods are clamping down on off-topic, you know. Come by one time, I'll show you around So, after a quick search on google, he's turned Inter down? That leaves us in competition with Real Madrid only, right?To be fair, neither us or Madrid needs him now.Before getting Hazard I would have said yes, now not sure.And Madrid are even full of people. Sahin, Canales, and who knows what more.What the hell they need Moura I will never understand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Before getting Hazard I would have said yes, now not sure.Exactly. I bet it's just the usual 'link Chelsea with every single decent player before the window closes' BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Lucas tempted by Europehttp://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7882641/Lucas-tempted-by-Europe-------------Don't think Chelsea needs him now that we got Hazard, and up coming hot shot Piazon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Well he could always play on the right. I would love him here if we couldn't get Hulk but the price will probably be hefty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigthrobberus 8 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 This guy gives me a hard one.Doubt anything will happen this summer with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 He is prospect, not finished product or at least Hazard-type established player. And priced at 30mio plus...I rather go after Gotze instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Lucas is good. Only seen a little bit of him in real life though he is better than Kaka in my Brazilian Ultimate team team. Could be an option if hulk deal falls through though they play different positions leaving us with a RW problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 He didnt shine as much in Brazil squad as he does in Sao Paulo. That is what I dont want himmuch. He could be best player in the world, but he is just too expensive and when did he turned down Inter? Wasnt Inter his favourite club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 If we don't get Hulk, Lucas would do just fine for me, he still has a lot to do but all the potential is definitely there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 If we don't get Hulk, Lucas would do just fine for me, he still has a lot to do but all the potential is definitely there.We already have enough potential and Lucas is expensive potential. Better to have some experience in attack, since we have striker with dificult mentality, winger who just arrived from France and playmaker who is only 24yrs old and not regular in Spain. To have Hulk would be better because on important games, talent goes off and only inteligence and experience play role. I dont think havin Lucas and Hazard would be good against the likes of City, United or CL matches, because there talent usualy dont play best, maybe some, but not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 We already have enough potential and Lucas is expensive potential. Better to have some experience in attack, since we have striker with dificult mentality, winger who just arrived from France and playmaker who is only 24yrs old and not regular in Spain. To have Hulk would be better because on important games, talent goes off and only inteligence and experience play role. I dont think havin Lucas and Hazard would be good against the likes of City, United or CL matches, because there talent usualy dont play best, maybe some, but not all.Hazard has the ability to make an instant impact here. There's a reason why he was bought for £32m, there's a reason he was widely regarded as the best player in France. Hazard is already a very good player. His potential ceiling however is very high; he has the potential to become a truly outstanding, world class player. It's absurd to say that he wouldn't be good against City or United because he isn't "experienced". Just because Hazard is 21 doesn't mean he hasn't got enough experience to play well in the big games. That's like saying Aguero at 21 who was ripping the likes of Barcelona at Atletico wasn't experienced enough. Mata isn't a regular at Spain but that doesn't mean he isn't good enough. There's no shame in being second best to the likes of Xavi and Iniesta. Mata came in last season and was immediately influential, and I expect the same to happen with Hazard. Essentially, Lucas would be the only one with the "potential" tag. Experience alone doesn't win you big games, or any sort of games. It's the right mixture of potential and experience you're after. Regardless, I wasn't saying we should get Lucas instead of Hulk. I'm someone who champions about us signing Hulk. I'm mentioning Lucas as a decent alternative, if the price isn't absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Hazard has the ability to make an instant impact here. There's a reason why he was bought for £32m, there's a reason he was widely regarded as the best player in France. Hazard is already a very good player. His potential ceiling however is very high; he has the potential to become a truly outstanding, world class player. It's absurd to say that he wouldn't be good against City or United because he isn't "experienced". Just because Hazard is 21 doesn't mean he hasn't got enough experience to play well in the big games. That's like saying Aguero at 21 who was ripping the likes of Barcelona at Atletico wasn't experienced enough. Mata isn't a regular at Spain but that doesn't mean he isn't good enough. There's no shame in being second best to the likes of Xavi and Iniesta. Mata came in last season and was immediately influential, and I expect the same to happen with Hazard. Essentially, Lucas would be the only one with the "potential" tag. Experience alone doesn't win you big games, or any sort of games. It's the right mixture of potential and experience you're after. Regardless, I wasn't saying we should get Lucas instead of Hulk. I'm someone who champions about us signing Hulk. I'm mentioning Lucas as a decent alternative, if the price isn't absurd.Well his price is more than 30mio, that is pretty absurd to me since he plays in brasil league and hasnt realy proved himself in international games. There are plenty other players (Oscar,...) that play same good, but dont have media fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Well his price is more than 30mio, that is pretty absurd to me since he plays in brasil league and hasnt realy proved himself in international games. There are plenty other players (Oscar,...) that play same good, but dont have media fame.I see what you mean. If we could get him for around £15m it'd be a good deal perhaps but the £30m price tag is excessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantkeepmedown 57 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 He's good. Nice skills and has a great shot, but he looks like Robben. Trying to take too many players on, and should pass more. If he had the right attitude to listen to the manager and sort that out, he'd be a gem of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 He's good. Nice skills and has a great shot, but he looks like Robben. Trying to take too many players on, and should pass more. If he had the right attitude to listen to the manager and sort that out, he'd be a gem of a player.I agree with that. With the right direction he could turn into one hell of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I rather go after Gotze instead.Gotze is not leaving Dortmund for at least a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Gotze is not leaving Dortmund for at least a couple of years.I know, but at least we could offer 35mio for him and see, if we are ready to pay 30+ for Lucas (who told he wont be leaving too, but now he is ready to go...). You never know, one is speculation, other is formal bid and Dortmund might actualy accept 35mio, also Gotze would move to a club with regular starting position and I dont see any problem why he wouldnt start if we only get him for RW (no Hulk or Moses).Players said all kind of stuff, but when you actualy have offer from CL winners with regular starting position worth 35mio, mind goes other way quickly. At least we could try... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1123694/manchester-united-close-in-on-lucas-moura-deal?cc=3436 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 he was so so unimpressive in Brazil's recent friendlies! he always seems to overdo things by trying to take on another defender instead of passing, he still has a lot to learn, i think anything under £20 Million would be a decent price for him. Fergie probably see's him as their next Ronaldo, personally i think he will be the next Robinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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