Juan Mata

[Korea 734]

But if it does work they have a world class player who's only 25 that would be playing against us and helping United potentially win trophies for years to come.

That alone is more than reason enough to never sell him there. It would be worse than the RvP sale in my opinion. He is aging and super injury prone as has been proven once more this season. We'd be giving them a young player who never gets injured and likely isn't even in the prime of his career yet and is already world class.

Mata not world class. In addition, they would need to sacrifice Kagawa/Rooney and Adan growth. Also, what becomes of Nani than?

Its risky business on United part.

Do I use this season to for Adan's growth and acquire proper CMs in the summer, or do I buy Mata, even though I have Kagawa and more glaring needs. Do I completely changed my tactics just for Mata? If it was Martinez, it would be reasonable, but Moyes Im not too sure.

United arent 1 player short, they're a few players short imo.

[The Chels 2,502]

Mata not world class. In addition, they would need to sacrifice Kagawa/Rooney and Adan growth. Also, what becomes of Nani than?

Its risky business on United part.

Do I use this season to for Adan's growth and acquire proper CMs in the summer, or do I buy Mata, even though I have Kagawa and more glaring needs. Do I completely changed my tactics just for Mata? If it was Martinez, it would be reasonable, but Moyes Im not too sure.

United arent 1 player short, they're a few players short imo.

35 assists (feeding very average strikers) and 20 goals in one season. That's not world class?

[duo11bluecl 207]

Can Mata really be called world class after having 1 exceptional good season? His 1st season with us was good, NO WHERE NEAR WORLD CLASS. And we are getting offered £40m if true, then we should take it. This is the type of money you pay for actual WORLD CLASS players like Falcao, Cavani, Thiago Silva, Hazard, Rooney, Van Persie, Benzema...etc who had at least 2-3 great seasons before commanding this fee, to me we are forcing MU to overpay for Mata which is good.

World class players are players who are among the best in the world in their positions. Mata is not even in top 10 attacking mid in the world atm. He is just a top class player, someone who is better than your average dudes but not the one that is gonna bring you game changing moments.

[duo11bluecl 207]

35 assists (feeding very average strikers) and 20 goals in one season. That's not world class?

Whole system was built around him, Hazard had like 9 goals all season, Oscar around the same too. But he was the CAM and everything went through him literally.

[The Chels 2,502]

Whole system was built around him, Hazard had like 9 goals all season, Oscar around the same too. But he was the CAM and everything went through him literally.

But do you think that any non-exceptional player could achieve those statistics just because he's the team's main man?

Can Mata really be called world class after having 1 exceptional good season? His 1st season with us was good, NO WHERE NEAR WORLD CLASS. And we are getting offered £40m if true, then we should take it. This is the type of money you pay for actual WORLD CLASS players like Falcao, Cavani, Thiago Silva, Hazard, Rooney, Van Persie, Benzema...etc who had at least 2-3 great seasons before commanding this fee, to me we are forcing MU to overpay for Mata which is good.

World class players are players who are among the best in the world in their positions. Mata is not even in top 10 attacking mid in the world atm. He is just a top class player, someone who is better than your average dudes but not the one that is gonna bring you game changing moments.

2-3 good seasons but then you say Hazard is world class? He did well in the Ligue 1 but is only now beginning to properly show signs of a world class player at the top level. Still though you can't say he's been any more world class than Mata last season.

[Toli 977]

ChelsTransferGossip ‏@ChelsTransfer 9s

Sky Sports - Negotiations to take Juan Mata to Man United are under way (via @GraemeBailey) #CFC #MUFC

wow unbelievable. madness from our board, even negotiating with this cunts. they f-ed us over with Rooney and we are negotiating with them? we should negotiate as long as possible and than call the deal off, just to f them. if we sanction this move, i have lost my faith. you have to be deluded to strengthen a rival (yeah, united are shit at the moment, but they are still a top team and wait till RVP+rooney will be back).

we should sell Hazard to Arsenal and maybe Azpi to Spurs. lets make the league even more interesting

[CHOULO19 24,332]

For his sake, I don't want him to go to united. It is unlikely that he would do well there.

[duo11bluecl 207]

But do you think that any non-exceptional player could achieve those statistics just because he's the team's main man?

2-3 good seasons but then you say Hazard is world class? He did well in the Ligue 1 but is only now beginning to properly show signs of a world class player at the top level. Still though you can't say he's been any more world class than Mata last season.

The good thing about Mata was consistency last season, he kept on doing what he is doing almost every match, but he never the guy who takes the game on the scuff of its neck. Remember Hazard at Sunderland and Hull, Mata rarely ever does that, that goal against Arsenal early last season and that late winner at MU was really his only talking points. But then again MU gave us before the match and Arsenal goal was a bit fortunate. I agree that he is a good player, very consistent one in fact but not adaptable enough. Also it is the reason why he is on his way out, modern football is changing and nowadays you can't just be 'good at what you do' anymore, you need to virtually do everything to help the team(defend...etc) and Mata can't even though he tried. Unless you are EXCEPTIONALLY good at just that 1 thing so scoring like Messi/Ronaldo/Falcao/Cavani...etc

[Jase 43,479]

ChelsTransferGossip ‏@ChelsTransfer 9s

Sky Sports - Negotiations to take Juan Mata to Man United are under way (via @GraemeBailey) #CFC #MUFC

wow unbelievable. madness from our board, even negotiating with this cunts. they f-ed us over with Rooney and we are negotiating with them? we should negotiate as long as possible and than call the deal off, just to f them. if we sanction this move, i have lost my faith. you have to be deluded to strengthen a rival (yeah, united are shit at the moment, but they are still a top team and wait till RVP+rooney will be back).

we should sell Hazard to Arsenal and maybe Azpi to Spurs. lets make the league even more interesting

It was Guillem Balague who said that actually and AFAIR, he has a dodgy record when it comes to transfer news, no?

[duo11bluecl 207]

ChelsTransferGossip ‏@ChelsTransfer 9s

Sky Sports - Negotiations to take Juan Mata to Man United are under way (via @GraemeBailey) #CFC #MUFC

wow unbelievable. madness from our board, even negotiating with this cunts. they f-ed us over with Rooney and we are negotiating with them? we should negotiate as long as possible and than call the deal off, just to f them. if we sanction this move, i have lost my faith. you have to be deluded to strengthen a rival (yeah, united are shit at the moment, but they are still a top team and wait till RVP+rooney will be back).

we should sell Hazard to Arsenal and maybe Azpi to Spurs. lets make the league even more interesting

Tbf if we got him we wouldn't have got Eto'o tp destroy them but in reality yeah I agree

[Pizy 18,852]

Fucking disgrace.

What striker are we going to get in January? Why would Costa leave Atletico who are top of the league, in the CL, and he's just become a naturalized Spaniard? Falcao and Cavani have just moved to their new clubs, so why would they be sold? No way Liverpool sell us Suarez mid season, and United are apparently refusing to sell us Rooney. That's the caliber of player we need and they're all unavailable.

This would be a MASSIVE mistake.

[duo11bluecl 207]

Fucking disgrace.

What striker are we going to get in January? Why would Costa leave Atletico who are top of the league, in the CL, and he's just become a naturalized Spaniard? Falcao and Cavani have just moved to their new clubs, so why would they be sold? No way Liverpool sell us Suarez mid season, and United are apparently refusing to sell us Rooney. That's the caliber of player we need and they're all unavailable.

This would be a MASSIVE mistake.

Maybe Mata now for like £15m on condition that Shrek joins us in the summer or something? Apparently Falcao and Cavani are not happy at their new teams.

[The Chels 2,502]

Less than £40m to United, who are definitely not going to involve Rooney in any deal, or £30m+ to a club overseas like PSG... Why is the club seemingly going with the former?!

[Fernando 6,585]

United closer to Juan Mata transfer

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1688467/manchester-united-closer-transfer-chelsea-juan-mata?cc=5901

Chelsea prepared to sell Juan Mata to Manchester United for fee in excess of £40m

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/transfer-news-chelsea-prepared-to-sell-juan-mata-to-manchester-united-for-fee-in-excess-of-40m-9075585.html

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

"Talks between Manchester United and Chelsea over Juan Mata 'going well'

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9127493/talks-between-manchester-united-and-chelsea-over-juan-mata-going-well

Are you fucking kidding me?!