Term-X 7,891 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 So you have a player who is worth maybe £40 million but you don't have as first-choice in your big games. You have needs in other areas....what do you do? £40m is a bit steep, Mata just doesn't have the marketability to command such a fee. Barbara, Peace. and Korea 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 £40m is a bit steep, Mata just doesn't have the marketability to command such a fee.He had the marketability to go for £23m when he was still at Valencia and you need only look at his form last season to tell he's a better player now than he was back in 2011. We're talking about a player who's won the World Cup, the European Championship, the Champions League and the Europa League in the last few years, surely he's a very 'marketable' player and the asking price should be around £35-40m if he's sold. A club like PSG can easily afford to pay that.Personally I don't think he will leave in January. Maybe next summer but not in the middle of the season, especially now that De Bruyne looks to be on his way out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Lmao, World Cup winner?, GTFO with that.. take off those blue tinted glasses. Mata was bigger than Zola for us at one point and still couldn't break into the spanish side!, he's 'barely' even an international. Mata is a quality player but a quiet guy who strays from the limelight, hence no marketability in the sense that a Neymar or Bale has. A solid £30m he'd go for.. Barbara and Peace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jype 6,398 Posted December 29, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 29, 2013 Mata is a quality player but a quiet guy who strays from the limelight, hence no marketability in the sense that a Neymar or Bale has. A solid £30m he'd go for..First you should stop comparing him to the likes of Neymar and Bale, it's obvious Mata's not as high profile as those two but in case you didn't notice their prices were on a whole different level than where I'm valuing Mata at.In a world where players like Lucas Moura, Erik Lamela or even our very own Willian go for over 30 million pounds, it's outrageous to even think Juan Mata should go for a penny less than £35m. sLOVEnian Blue, didierforever, The Mak and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Lmao, World Cup winner?, GTFO with that.. take off those blue tinted glasses. Mata was bigger than Zola for us at one point and still couldn't break into the spanish side!, he's 'barely' even an international.Mata is a quality player but a quiet guy who strays from the limelight, hence no marketability in the sense that a Neymar or Bale has. A solid £30m he'd go for..£35 million would be the starting point in my opinion....that's Andy Carroll money don't forget. Pastore and Lucas went for roughly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 £35 million would be the starting point in my opinion....that's Andy Carroll money don't forget. Pastore and Lucas went for roughly the same. Andy Carroll is an absolute anomaly though, the only context in which Mata goes for £35m is in january i.e.. panic season. So it's probably in our best interests to sell him next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 + PSG were 'new money' at the time, so had to spend stupid amounts in order to wade off interest from us & United for those two players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Andy Carroll is an absolute anomaly though, the only context in which Mata goes for £35m is in january i.e.. panic season. So it's probably in our best interests to sell him next month.Mata is quality ,, It is in our best interest to keep him. Azpinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnePound 22 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Mourinho doesn't like Mata and eveybody knows it. So he will go for peanuts next summer.Sad. Mouri_Matic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 He had the marketability to go for £23m when he was still at Valencia and you need only look at his form last season to tell he's a better player now than he was back in 2011. We're talking about a player who's won the World Cup, the European Championship, the Champions League and the Europa League in the last few years, surely he's a very 'marketable' player and the asking price should be around £35-40m if he's sold. A club like PSG can easily afford to pay that.Personally I don't think he will leave in January. Maybe next summer but not in the middle of the season, especially now that De Bruyne looks to be on his way out as well.Mata was always younger.....And their are only a handful number of teams that can overpay for players.... Lucas and Pastore were younger than Mata went they got transferred....... However, PSG can still spend stupid money due to their ridiculous amount of sponsors revenues... So, you never know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Mata was always younger.....And their are only a handful number of teams that can overpay for players.... Lucas and Pastore were younger than Mata went they got transferred....... However, PSG can still spend stupid money due to their ridiculous amount of sponsors revenues... So, you never know...So what, you're saying that for Lucas and Pastore their young age was an advantage and it somehow justified the obscure transfer fees? Look how they turned out for PSG, huge flops the both of them and constantly being rumored to be going out on loan because no one wants to spend any real money to buy them on a permanent deal. That's something that can happen when you buy players who have proven fuck all in their careers.Being young is usually a good thing but if it comes between paying 40m for a youngster or paying the same amount for a 26-year-old who's already proven to be a world class player, I know which one is generally considered to be the better deal. Mata at the age of 26 is worth much more than Mata three years ago or the likes of Pastore or Lucas at any points of their career to this day. Old age only becomes an issue when players near the 30 year mark but if anything, I would say a player's value rises as he grows older and gets closer to his peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 So what, you're saying that for Lucas and Pastore their young age was an advantage and it somehow justified the obscure transfer fees? Look how they turned out for PSG, huge flops the both of them and constantly being rumored to be going out on loan because no one wants to spend any real money to buy them on a permanent deal. That's something that can happen when you buy players who have proven fuck all in their careers.Being young is usually a good thing but if it comes between paying 40m for a youngster or paying the same amount for a 26-year-old who's already proven to be a world class player, I know which one is generally considered to be the better deal.Mata at the age of 26 is worth much more than Mata three years ago or the likes of Pastore or Lucas at any points of their career to this day. Old age only becomes an issue when players near the 30 year mark but if anything, I would say a player's value rises as he grows older and gets closer to his peak.Thats exactly what Im saying.....Hazard commanded a high price for his potential. Lucas commanded a high price cause of his potential...(Look at Marquinhos transfer fee and age) Pastore was a pretty good player in italy, similar to the Sanchez situation at Barcelona... Both were young players when they transferred in....However, in their current teams, they arent the main cog anymore, so their stats suffered... It's exactly like Mata in 2013-2014. Since, he isnt the main cog for Mourinho, is he a flop to? If Mata does go to PSG, I dont know where he would play and wth they are going to do with Menez, lavezzi. pastore and lucas. However, I know for a fact he wont be the main cog at PSG as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Pastore, Menez and Lavezzi are leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 people here think mata would go for less than 30mil, hahahaha LOL-MAX.mata is 25 right now. yet to hit his peak. still chelsea POTY twice in a row. all u need to do is talk to a united/pool fan to know what they truly think of him and how much they value him at. PSG themselves were willing to shell out 35mil in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamon 103 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Mata is class '88, and he is also class in football terms: I find the fact he must leave totally disappointing, no matter what... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I feel he might leave this transfer window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephreak 42 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I don't look forward to january transfer window at all to be honest laura90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Pastore, Menez and Lavezzi are leaving.Very good players for the like of Napoli, Everton, Milan, Inter and maybe even Spurs and Pool. Just never world class really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 If Mata is going to be sold, I doubt it's gonna be in January really especially if De Bruyne looks more likely to be one leaving then. If we are to sell him to PSG or whoever else, we'll probably just tell them to come back in the summer for him. Moreover between Mata and De Bruyne, the former looks and has been more suitable to what Mourinho wants/prefers right now as De Bruyne is hardly even getting any look in right now. Why sell Mata now and leave us with practically 4 AMs and De Bruyne is not favored by Mourinho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 If Mata is going to be sold, I doubt it's gonna be in January really especially if De Bruyne looks more likely to be one leaving then. If we are to sell him to PSG or whoever else, we'll probably just tell them to come back in the summer for him. Moreover between Mata and De Bruyne, the former looks and has been more suitable to what Mourinho wants/prefers right now as De Bruyne is hardly even getting any look in right now. Why sell Mata now and leave us with practically 4 AMs and De Bruyne is not favored by Mourinho?Unless they offer £35m, impossible to refuse that atm considering his status here. And to be fair 4 were always gonna be enough, especially with every single our mid so fit, hardly anyone ever got injured, it is not like we got RVP type player in the team, world class but always out for some time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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