Romelu Lukaku

[AndersonBLUE 819]

He's better than Rodriguez, another supposed talent, and he's 24.

[Toli 977]

Ita almost like thia forum goes thru phases. Add to that the band wagon of opinion and it just gets silly and frustrating.

I remember at the start of the season he was our no.1 striker, who was single handedly supposed to take us to a different footballing level.

When he was loaned, it was supposedly a horrid mistake and the jose out chants were on. When he was banging goals for fun at the start, every member including me and every pundit said that chelsea made a mistake.

Now, injured for 2 weeks and with etoo playing well, suddenly people think that one of the best prosoects in the world to be sold. I mean what the fucking hell!!!

well you cant generalize this opinions on everybody. I think that he aint good enough to lead our line (and said it before the season started) but would be a good no 2 or 3 choice. technically he is really, really weak..his 1st touch at times is abysmal, his stamina is awful and his game with his back against players and also his heading ability is bullshit for his height. he has to improve on A LOT of things. people

People were blinded by him scoring goals. the goals kinda hushed up his flaws, which existed the whole season. at the moment. he is only useful for counter-attacking or against teams with a high line. most of the teams though park the bus against us or sit deeper as normal. If we'll get him and he will be happy to be 2nd or 3rd choice, ok. if he wants to be no 1, than he has to go.

and am I the only one who is annoyed by his interviews? he just had again an Interview in the Mirror takling bout improving, wanting Cl football blabla. He really just should STOP talking and start getting better actually. he hasnt improved on any aspect for 1 year now .he has scored more goals, yes, but its also thanks to Everton being a better team than West Brom- his flaws are still there. and I doubt that the first touch is something he can improve on...

and him being sold isnt unrealistic at all. just watch Mous comments about FFP and so on.

There are youth players who have tremendous talent but lack attitude and work ethic. you can work with them though, you can get them to be a good professional. but there are young players who have the right attitude but lack the talent in some areas and you cant teach them this. I think Lukaku is one of this guys. Hopefully not, but it seems so.

Mou wants his strikers to be able to link-up with other players, to be good on the ball etc etc. Lukaku hasnt got this ablitiy. And our striking position is that bad, that we cant give him 2,3 years time, to develop. we absolutely HAVE to buy a new striker and Mou already said, that we will be looking out for one.

[The only place to be 11,313]

well you cant generalize this opinions on everybody. I think that he aint good enough to lead our line (and said it before the season started) but would be a good no 2 or 3 choice. technically he is really, really weak..his 1st touch at times is abysmal, his stamina is awful and his game with his back against players and also his heading ability is bullshit for his height. he has to improve on A LOT of things. people

Sorry, but if that remarkably harsh critique was even halfway accurate then he isn't good enough to be 2nd or 3rd choice for us.

[bushman 2,043]

According to our expert, that famous Toli, Lukaku is not even good enough to play for the local pub clubs. Lol.

[Toli 977]

Sorry, but if that remarkably harsh critique was even halfway accurate then he isn't good enough to be 2nd or 3rd choice for us.

it aint harsh, its my opinion. his back against players game is not good at all, his heading is for his height really bad and his 1st touch is abysmal. he can work on things like his heading and his back against the wall game though, thats why I think he could stay a 2nd striker. he offers you good options for counter-attacking football and also physical presence when needed. and Mourinho maybe could get him better in different aspects, who knows.

At the moment, physically he is a beast, but tactically (in some aspects) and technically, he is poor or not good enough for a 1st choice Chelsea striker.

@bushman if you would be able to read properly than you would have seen, that I WANT HIM to stay as our 2nd/3rd choice striker. If you think that we are a pub club though, than sorry

and instead of just posting your usual one sentence bullshit, how about bringing your arguments and actually saying how you see him and where do you rate him at our squad? quite anxious to see if you think, that he is able to be our no 1 striker.

[bushman 2,043]

Even though, I was not very happy to had seen Lukaku being loaned out again, but one thing I must admit here.

If all these reports are remotely close to what he has to say, about his demands, it won´t sit well with Jose, I feel.

Jose is not someone to play with. knowing that Jose had sent Mata packing & Mata is much better player than Lukaku, this kid is asking for trouble, I feel.

I would not be too surprise to see Lukaku being used in some swap deal, in the summer.

[The Skipper 20,593]

When he was banging goals for fun at the start, every member including me and every pundit said that chelsea made a mistake.

Not everyone!

I remember a few of us said that loaning him was the right decision, regardless if he was scoring goals or not, especially considering Mourinho allowed it.

Lukaku's always been known as a goalscorer, his main problems lie in other areas, which is what I have said from day one, which is why the Everton loan spell is good for him because he gets to be number 1 striker at a top 6 club who are challenging for CL.

It is very funny how most that blasted a few of us for agreeing with the loan are now coming around though.

[bouletje 82]

Seems like a my cup is already full kinda guy sometimes, think he's a though kid to teach something.

And when I think back on how he was two years ago, can't say I see alot of improvement, just my opinion.

[Stingray 9,441]

I really question the fact he hasn't learned anything. I think he really does, but people don't seem to realize he will never look 'beautiful' technically. He is another kind of striker. Sorry to see this is biasing people's view on his effectiveness as a striker. A bias sometimes strengthened by his from time to time lacklustre bodylanguage when things do not pan out right for him in some games.

Also: the part about him not working hard is utter bullshit. I am very sorry. In pretty much every interview held by others in the NT (eg. KDB, but also the coaches) he is said to work harder than anyone else, staying after training to practise extra shots, continuously watching tape to study other strikers. In one of the interviews they called him the human football database.

He is big, fast, has excellent instincts and scores goals. He will never be good at his first touch, but it has progressed. At Everton his link up is being trained, as it should People who watched him at Anderlecht like I have will acknowledge this.

We forget he is mere 20 years old - which adds to the bias there already is. Team him up with a good striker and watch what happens. I remember more than one year ago people called me crazy for boasting about Eden - this guy is going to be our ugly but effective goal scoring machine.

What wisdom is there in writing off a 20 year old freak of nature like him.... Ffs.

[robsblubot 3,530]

Not everyone!

I remember a few of us said that loaning him was the right decision, regardless if he was scoring goals or not, especially considering Mourinho allowed it.

Lukaku's always been known as a goalscorer, his main problems lie in other areas, which is what I have said from day one, which is why the Everton loan spell is good for him because he gets to be number 1 striker at a top 6 club who are challenging for CL.

It is very funny how most that blasted a few of us for agreeing with the loan are now coming around though.

true from the player's perspective.

however, for the club, all it matters is whether Lukaku would be able to contribute more than Demba Ba, which is not that difficult. Lukaku has made a case that he could be more influential than Demba Ba in my view.

Well, I guess it's not all that matters... Difficult to know how disruptive Lukaku would've been as a 3rd striker had he stayed. Despite his technical deficiencies, Demba Ba is very professional and appears to be a team player (not to mention a good guy).

@Stingray, that's not bias as most if not all world class strikers have been very good technical players. His technical ineptitude will always hold him back, no matter how powerful and quick he may be. He still can improve technically, but it's the toughest area to develop.

[The Skipper 20,593]

true from the player's perspective.

however, for the club, all it matters is whether Lukaku would be able to contribute more than Demba Ba, which is not that difficult. Lukaku has made a case that he could be more influential than Demba Ba in my view.

Well, I guess it's not all that matters... Difficult to know how disruptive Lukaku would've been as a 3rd striker had he stayed. Despite his technical deficiencies, Demba Ba is very professional and appears to be a team player (not to mention a good guy).

Lukaku would've definitely provided more than Ba, but as you said, he wouldn't sit around here being 3rd choice like Ba is. He would definitely moan/cry about it.

He needed to go out for his development. IMO it's better that he's number 1 at Everton rather than number 2/3 at Chelsea.

[Fernando 6,488]

Don't say you haven't been warned.

Well KDB gone, and I bet Piazon as well.

He is of the similar mold of KDB.

Courtoius and Lukaku I'm not sure.

The club and Mourinho have a tough call on Courtois cause Cech is still good, and goalkeepers can be good till their 40's....

For Lukaku, if the guy can accept to be 2nd or 3rd striker depends on who we keep and who we buy then good.

If he wants the same amount of play time as Everton, then just like KDB and Mata he will be sold, sadly.

[bushman 2,043]

Not everyone!

I remember a few of us said that loaning him was the right decision, regardless if he was scoring goals or not, especially considering Mourinho allowed it.

Lukaku's always been known as a goalscorer, his main problems lie in other areas, which is what I have said from day one, which is why the Everton loan spell is good for him because he gets to be number 1 striker at a top 6 club who are challenging for CL.

It is very funny how most that blasted a few of us for agreeing with the loan are now coming around though.

Most of us still think Lukaku could have played for Chelsea had Eto´o was not bought. How about them cookies ?

[Stingray 9,441]

@Stingray, that's not bias as most if not all world class strikers have been very good technical players. His technical ineptitude will always hold him back, no matter how powerful and quick he may be. He still can improve technically, but it's the toughest area to develop.

I get what you are aiming at, but i mean bias in the sense that people ascribe him bad technical skills easier due to his physical appearance, height, bulk. I would actually say he is average-ok , and not 'terrible'. If you see the touches Torres misses (not to mention Ba).... Furthermore, he can really do it when he is ok mentally, which is probably true for most strikers.

So, being average technical, but having the instinct and the physical prowess makes him a powerfull weapon imo.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Not everyone!

I remember a few of us said that loaning him was the right decision, regardless if he was scoring goals or not, especially considering Mourinho allowed it.

Lukaku's always been known as a goalscorer, his main problems lie in other areas, which is what I have said from day one, which is why the Everton loan spell is good for him because he gets to be number 1 striker at a top 6 club who are challenging for CL.

It is very funny how most that blasted a few of us for agreeing with the loan are now coming around though.

I still think it was the wrong move. Ba simply isn't good enough and has contributed the square root of fuck all to our campaign, whilst Torres has been inconsistent and injury-prone. We needed another striker and Lukaku would have got plenty of minutes whilst playing and training alongside top quality players who might have actually improved his play and kept him in line off the pitch.

At Everton he's faced almost zero competition for a starting spot and I'm not sure how closely related their football is to our's. It was a bad decision and to be honest I think we could've done with a striker who has 'always been known as a goalscorer', don't you?

[petr.breu 1,618]

Wrong shirt at the wrong moment Romelu

[Jase 43,479]

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Roberto Martinez has said Lukaku will be back for Everton on 1st March to face West Ham.

[Shogun 721]

Since I last posted in this thread, Romelu Lukaku has scored 2 goals in 10 appearances in the Premier League (without counting his injury forced substitution away to Liverpool) having previously scored 7 goals in 8 Premier League appearances. So what we need to determine is whether his drop in goals is down to a drop in performance from Everton as a team or whether Romelu Lukaku has to take a large amount of, not quite blame, but acceptance for his own transformation into Fernando Torres.

I have to concede that I am of the persuasion that a decent part of the reasoning for Romelu Lukaku's loss of form is down to Everton's loss in form over the last 2 or 3 months. In my opinion, Everton haven't played well throughout a match since we drew 1-1 against Arsenal at the Emirates and that came 8 Premier League matches ago on 8th December. In that time, Lukaku has scored one goal.

Everton have been ravaged with injuries throughout the last couple of months (like some other clubs). Leighton Baines, Phil Jagielka, Sylvain Distin, Seamus Coleman, Gerard Deulofeu, Ross Barkley and much more recently Bryan Oviedo all missed numerous games in this period which will have affected the team as most of them are core players in the squad. Any team that is swapping and changing their team unwillingly are going to suffer.

However, there are a lot of players who would step up in that sort of time (Kevin Mirallas in particular did this for us) but Lukaku just went inside a shell and the goals dried up. It wasn't the hardest run of Premier League matches in the world, he has failed to score against Manchester United, Arsenal (they're the excusable fixtures), Fulham, Swansea, Sunderland, Stoke, Norwich and West Brom.

Perhaps you also have to take fitness and his stage of development into account. He is still young and has been used sparingly at Chelsea and was used fairly irregularly at West Brom despite his goal return, Due to lack of competition (which could also be a factor, though I don't think it is, he's a pretty self motivated guy), he has started 17 Premier League matches in a row before his injury against Liverpool. You only have to look at your own players recently such as Hazard and Willian who are suffering from fatigue and they have more experience in hand. Also, when you're scoring goals, your inadequacies are often ignored and vice-versa when you're not scoring. Despite the goals, he's always showed that he's a fair distance from being the footballer he wants to be, patience is probably the one thing he needs more of in terms of his career.

Unsurprisingly, it's a mixture of a drop of form from the player and the team that have contributed to his lack of goals but if I'm being completely honest, it was the team that was making Lukaku look good this season rather than the other way around as the media would have had you believe with their "what was Jose thinking" headlines. Lukaku is young, that should be remembered and he needs less of the Drogba comparisons and the media fuelling his ego. This break should help him as well as competition from Traore and Naismith who is doing well.

There's absolutely no way Lukaku is ready to lead Chelsea next season, nor is there much proof to say he'd be any better at it than Torres or Eto'o... yet.