Korea 734 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 You do realise he scored in every pre-season game (iirc) and didn't get a chance to prove himself in the Prem for Chelsea? That IS fighting for your spot, and to be fair, he won the fight vs Torres and Ba by a large margin.The fact that the whole of England is laughing with us for loaning out our best striker should ring a bell as well.As far as the Bayern game is concerned, he was brought in when we didn't have a single attacking player left in the team. Our strikers barely touch a ball in our normal formation let alone when we park the bus and sub every attacking threat we have.Well, I tend to disagree. Lukaku didn't really show me anything in the preseason games ( I didn't watch the asian ones). I don't really understand how you can view him above both Ba and Torres, since both have more experience and both have actually played first team for Chelsea. Also, Lukaku doesn't even start for Everton nor did he start for most of the matches with West Brom (and who was his competition for both teams?) If lukaku can't start for either teams, why should he gotten a chance to start for Chelsea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Well, I tend to disagree. Lukaku didn't really show me anything in the preseason games ( I didn't watch the asian ones). I don't really understand how you can view him above both Ba and Torres, since both have more experience and both have actually played first team for Chelsea. Also, Lukaku doesn't even start for Everton nor did he start for most of the matches with West Brom (and who was his competition for both teams?) If lukaku can't start for either teams, why should he gotten a chance to start for Chelsea? Because he scores goals. Badboy, Stingray and Stats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I don't agree with Courtois' repeated loans to Atletico either. The longer he spends time in one place (Madrid) the more settled he'll be. It's even more worrying considering Real Madrid's current goalkeeping situation. Casillas looks like he's on the way out and Lopez is no spring chicken. I think it's almost certain Real Madrid will make a move for him in the next couple of seasons. If we don't call him back next season or at least loan him to a Premier League side (preferably London based) then I don't see him ever playing for us.Also I can't say I agree with your comment about Chelsea players getting hyped. It seems to me it's only the players who don't play that get hyped. The rest of our squad cops praise and abuse in equal measure, and don't even get me started on the comments about Torres and Mikel.And yet he's disappointed when given (admittedly few) opportunities in the first team against top flight opposition. His performance against Bayern was absolutely shameful (and I'm not talking about the missed penalty), and he was ineffective in his cameo appearances in the League as well. If he was banging in goals for us I would understand your position, but if his expectation is that he's our first choice at age 19 without having ever proved himself at a top side then we'd be well to be rid of him. Sturridge was shown the door for the same reason. Drogba had to fight for his place in his first season with us, and I don't see why Lukaku should be any different. I really can't understand this idea that playing for WBA or Everton is the same as playing for Chelsea. It's much easier to score goals when teams are trying to take three points from you rather than one. Also, asking WBA about his loyalty does nothing to endear Lukaku to me. I'm a Chelsea fan; I don't want him to be loyal to WBA or Everton.He had the chance to try and break into our first team this season. He requested a loan, and the club obliged him. We've done absolutely nothing wrong by him.He requested loan himself ? Are you for real ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Well, I tend to disagree. Lukaku didn't really show me anything in the preseason games ( I didn't watch the asian ones). I don't really understand how you can view him above both Ba and Torres, since both have more experience and both have actually played first team for Chelsea. Also, Lukaku doesn't even start for Everton nor did he start for most of the matches with West Brom (and who was his competition for both teams?) If lukaku can't start for either teams, why should he gotten a chance to start for Chelsea? Sorry, but you are wrong. Did our other strikers show anything in pre-season? No. Lukaku was our best striker. He is on loan at Everton and I hope he does well but how could you actually say he does not start for Everton? It was one bloody game. That is expected and plus eh completely changed the game when he came on. He is clearly going to be the no.1 striker there so your point you made there about him not starting because of one game is ridiculous. I can guarantee you he will start against Newcastle on Monday night. Everton have been crying out for a striker who can score goals and now they have one. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Sorry, but you are wrong. Did our other strikers show anything in pre-season? No. Lukaku was our best striker. He is on loan at Everton and I hope he does well but how could you actually say he does not start for Everton? It was one bloody game. That is expected and plus eh completely changed the game when he came on. He is clearly going to be the no.1 striker there so your point you made there about him not starting because of one game is ridiculous. I can guarantee you he will start against Newcastle on Monday night. Everton have been crying out for a striker who can score goals and now they have one.He didnt start for West Brom.And your assuming he's going to start for Everton....In addition, what exactly did Lukaku do in the preseason? It's one thing to excel on a midtable team, but its another thing to excel for Chelsea where most teams are going to park the bus versus us. Lukaku should of went on loan to Swansea and learned a thing or 2 from Landrup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 He didnt start for West Brom.And your assuming he's going to start for Everton....In addition, what exactly did Lukaku do in the preseason? It's one thing to excel on a midtable team, but its another thing to excel for Chelsea where most teams are going to park the bus versus us. Lukaku should of went on loan to Swansea and learned a thing or 2 from Landrup. Outscore the rest of the other striking options we have with ease? Badboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 He didnt start for West Brom.And your assuming he's going to start for Everton....In addition, what exactly did Lukaku do in the preseason? It's one thing to excel on a midtable team, but its another thing to excel for Chelsea where most teams are going to park the bus versus us. Lukaku should of went on loan to Swansea and learned a thing or 2 from Landrup. He was on the bench sometimes for WBA for tactical reason. He started many as well. Lukaku will be the main starter at Everton no doubt about it. He will not start every single game but the majority of them he will as Martinez said himself that he is the missing piece of the jigsaw. Also what did Lukaku do in pre-season? Scored more goals than all our strikers. That is not my main point anyway. My main point is you sayng he does not even start for Everton is so oblivious. It was one game and that is expected but you will see him in the starting line up more often than not but when he comes of the bench he is also an additional weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofacej 132 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 He requested loan himself ? Are you for real ?Every interview involving the loan deal from both Lukaku and Mourinho indicated that it was Lukaku's choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Every interview involving the loan deal from both Lukaku and Mourinho indicated that it was Lukaku's choice.he said he was 90% certain he would be staying and then the club told him he would be going on loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Every interview involving the loan deal from both Lukaku and Mourinho indicated that it was Lukaku's choice.Where was that ? Most likely in Sydney´s newspaper only ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofacej 132 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Where was that ? Most likely in Sydney´s newspaper only ?http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/09/13/lukaku-i-want-an-everton-winHe recalled: "I had a call about 7 or 8pm from my agent saying there’s a possibility that I could leave and I said ‘yeah, okay, that’s fine’, because at some point I need to play and play as much as possible. I made the right decision and I spoke with [Kevin] Mirallas as I was in the same room with him for the whole evening and he explained about how things were going."Also, leave comments about Australia out of it. I don't even live in Sydney, and it just makes you look ignorant and immature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/09/13/lukaku-i-want-an-everton-winHe recalled: "I had a call about 7 or 8pm from my agent saying there’s a possibility that I could leave and I said ‘yeah, okay, that’s fine’, because at some point I need to play and play as much as possible. I made the right decision and I spoke with [Kevin] Mirallas as I was in the same room with him for the whole evening and he explained about how things were going."Also, leave comments about Australia out of it. I don't even live in Sydney, and it just makes you look ignorant and immature.And prior to it ? Don´t be so naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 He is starting vs Fulham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Well I am not 100% sure on whose choice it was but it would seem weird if it was Lukaku's after he said he wanted to stay from the beginning. When we were linked with Eto'o and Rooney he relished the challenge and told several sources he wants to fight for his place regardless of who we bring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Also, Lukaku doesn't even start for Everton nor did he start for most of the matches with West Brom (and who was his competition for both teams?) If lukaku can't start for either teams, why should he gotten a chance to start for Chelsea? Doesn't even start? He played one game when you made this post... Nice one. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Benteke has been ruled out by Paul Lambert for 4-6 weeks with a hip injury.Chance for Lukaku to the lead the line for Belgium in their upcoming last 2 WCQs against Croatia and Wales. Belgium are 5 points ahead of second place Croatia. Mr_er 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goemaere 131 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 He didnt start for West Brom.And your assuming he's going to start for Everton....In addition, what exactly did Lukaku do in the preseason? It's one thing to excel on a midtable team, but its another thing to excel for Chelsea where most teams are going to park the bus versus us. Lukaku should of went on loan to Swansea and learned a thing or 2 from Landrup. Lol, so much bullshit in one post.Lukaku had more starts and minutes than longScored 5 goals, torres and ba scored 1 with more playing time. Lukaku is exceling at everton right now, which is a top 5-6 team.Just watch cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goemaere 131 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Every interview involving the loan deal from both Lukaku and Mourinho indicated that it was Lukaku's choice.Because Jose "only one signing this summer" Mourinho would never lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Lol, so much bullshit in one post.Lukaku had more starts and minutes than longScored 5 goals, torres and ba scored 1 with more playing time. Lukaku is exceling at everton right now, which is a top 5-6 team.Just watch cricket.LOL.Are you the kid that thought KDB was going to start over Oscar last season too? LOLDon't give me no belgian homerism. Also, LOL, to everton being a top 6 team that just lost to fullham and took 4 games to notch a victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofacej 132 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 You do realise he scored in every pre-season game (iirc) and didn't get a chance to prove himself in the Prem for Chelsea? That IS fighting for your spot, and to be fair, he won the fight vs Torres and Ba by a large margin.The fact that the whole of England is laughing at us for loaning out our best striker should ring a bell as well.As far as the Bayern game is concerned, he was brought on when we didn't have a single attacking player left in the team. Our strikers barely touch a ball in our normal formation let alone when we park the bus and sub every attacking threat we have.I watched every match in pre-season, and am aware he scored a lot of goals (not in every match though) but pre-season is not a series of top flight competitive matches. He has made two appearances this season in the Premier League for us and produced nothing, and against Bayern he was the laziest player on the pitch. He was probably brought on for his defensive aerial ability, but chose to jog around, high up the pitch, like he didn't have a care in the world. In a cup final against the best team in the world when we were one man down, and trying to cling on to a victory, no less. That's only excusable because of his naivety and inexperience, but make no mistake Torres was worth 5 Lukaku's in that match and I'm sure that was the determining factor when it came to Chelsea green-lighting his loan.To everyone saying we forced him out of the team, that he had no say in the matter, and we've treated him unfairly, I ask you why? It's not like he's on big wages or we're blessed with an amazing strike force. Unless you think Mourinho and the board are incompetent there's only two options: either it was the correct choice for Lukaku's future development, or he wasn't willing to play second or even third fiddle this season, and requested the loan.I'm just sick to death of reading about Lukaku being the answer to all our problems and this notion that scoring for WBA or Everton is the same as scoring for Chelsea because it really isn't. If it was then Demba Ba would be banging in goals like he did for Newcastle. couris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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