Romelu Lukaku

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

5 minutes ago, Warning_Hazard said:

Wtf?!

Deary, Deary me

Going to need a bit more then wtf?

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

26 minutes ago, Hermione said:

I don't care if 15 goals is an upgrade on what we have, if you put Abraham and play him 30 matches a season he can score 15 Premier league goals as well, as I said for the fee paid, PL experience, at the peak of his career and a supposed world class striker as some say he is anything below 20 non penalty Premier league goals is a disgrace, Kane reaches this number every season even when he spends a month or two on the sidelines. I don't care he will miss a 2-3 matches at the start of the season has over 30 matches to score at least 20 goals, as for tactics it's irrelevant he is assigned to finish the chances he gets. 

Did u rate Drogba?

Because Drogba played 254 games and scored 104 goals in the PL

Lukaku played 252 games and scored 114 goals. And he played for West brom at one point.

No doubt Drogba was awesome, am not saying that but give this lad some credit atleast he's no where near as bad as ppl make out.

Edited August 9, 2021 by BluesMadLad

[robsblubot 3,504]

8 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said:

Did u rate Drogba?

Because Drogba played 254 games and scored 104 goals in the PL

Lukaku played 252 games and scored 114 goals. And he played for West brom at one point.

No doubt Drogba was awesome, am not saying that but give this lad some credit atleast he's no where near as bad as ppl make out.

Drogba was twice the player. He had the ability, esp in the air, to win games out of nothing (as he did).

I actually watched Lukaku play in a pre-season match in NYC when he was still with us. Lukaku and Luiz were both amazing in that game, but his characteristics as a player have not changed: lots of power, pace (esp for a guy of his build), and only mediocre skill on the ball... kinda heavy first touch.

So, it's sad that we've had this player, let him go, and are getting him back for over 100m. Like him or not, it's not like he completely reinvented his game. It's the very same player.

Will have to trust Tuchel knows how to use him is all.

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

6 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Drogba was twice the player. He had the ability, esp in the air, to win games out of nothing (as he did).

I actually watched Lukaku play in a pre-season match in NYC when he was still with us. Lukaku and Luiz were both amazing in that game, but his characteristics as a player have not changed: lots of power, pace (esp for a guy of his build), and only mediocre skill on the ball... kinda heavy first touch.

So, it's sad that we've had this player, let him go, and are getting him back for over 100m. Like him or not, it's not like he completely reinvented his game. It's the very same player.

Will have to trust Tuchel knows how to use him is all.

I wasn't saying Drogba wasn't. Drogba was a brilliant player, am pointing out the fact that lukaku has more goals in the EPL than him thats all. City just paid 100m for grealish and talk of 150m for kane. Prices will only go up my point is inter value rom at 100m not lukaku himself.

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

5 minutes ago, Hermione said:

What an odd comment, yes I liked him and so what? He didn't came at the peak of his career, was just a good player in France, he wasn't hyped as the best in the world, his skillset was twice to those of Lukaku, had no PL experience and didn't cost anywhere near as much even if you take inflation into consideration, on top of that Abramovic was in full spending mode at the time whereas right now has a fully fleshed board who should take the best decisions instead of him.

So why exactly didn't we postpone our search for a striker until next season if all we get for 100 millions is 6-7 more goals than Abraham would score this season? 

Because the market will be the same if not more next year 100m gets u a grealish 150 gets u kane 200+ mill gets u haarland 800k a week gets u messi. So what would we be waiting for? Who would u sign next year? 

[robsblubot 3,504]

2 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said:

I wasn't saying Drogba wasn't. Drogba was a brilliant player, am pointing out the fact that lukaku has more goals in the EPL than him thats all. City just paid 100m for grealish and talk of 150m for kane. Prices will only go up my point is inter value rom at 100m not lukaku himself.

true, but Grealish carries the English add-on in his price tag.

Lukaku had a pretty bad time last time in the PL, turned it around in Italy, which still makes it a pretty big bet in my book: regardless of being "better" the PL has its own characteristics. I sure hope he at least keeps his Italian fitness.

I actually think Kane is a much better footballer and weren't for his Injury proneness, I'd say he'd be worth the additional cost.

I just feel that football has changed recently and a pure #9 does not buy you as much anymore. Sure hope to be wrong here.

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

5 minutes ago, Hermione said:

Even if you take Haaland out, Lewandowski, Vlahovic, Adeyemi, Isak if they develop all would cost less than Lukaku right now.

IF... we have a club full of IFs 

[Hashishi 148]

4 minutes ago, Hermione said:

Lukaku himself is a if though, can't have it both ways, a few days ago he was world class and now needs time to settle in and 15 PL would be good, for 100 millions you don't buy if players (unless you're Barcelona but whatever).

I think buying Ifs isn't the worst idea. Ifs got us Hazard and Havertz. Every player we have bought at his peak, we have destroyed, all the way back to Shevchenko (apart from the odd Fabregas). All of our Ifs from last year are more established and managed to win CL in their first year.

I'm hoping Lukaku is a fabregas/Costa type signing as he is just a piece of the puzzle. My issue is that I don't think he's suited to a team that presses so he will probably be limited to teams that sit back. That just means we are buying a squad player for 100m which reeks like a Drinky/Barky signing. 

[Clockwork 1,794]

Drogba and Lukaku couldn’t be anymore different. I am sick of this comparison.

[DH1988 1,273]

The biggest difference in Drogba and Lukaku, I feel, is that in a big game with Drogba, I felt zero worries upfront.. Now it is all I worry about in big games.

 

Nothing emphasises that as much as the FA cup final vs. United.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,892]

48 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

Every player we have bought at his peak, we have destroyed, all the way back to Shevchenko (apart from the odd Fabregas). All of our Ifs from last year are more established and managed to win CL in their first year.

Sheva was, as I said after watching him at World Cup 06, absolutely finished when we bought him. The phrase I used at the time was that, "He had nothing to offer us." The same was true of Torres who I never rated at all, even when he was scoring goals for Liverpool. Irrespective of that temporary success he was a fundamentally limited player. If Eden was an if then every player we ever signed was an "if."  There are ifs everywhere but there really shouldn't be one in the argument you make about buying a 100,000,000 player. Let's hope TT was the one making that argument and let's hope that he at least has no doubts.

[Blue Armour 4,278]

3 hours ago, Clockwork said:

Drogba and Lukaku couldn’t be anymore different. I am sick of this comparison.

Same.

A lot of stems from the fact that they have a similar build and because Lukaku is a Drogba fan.

Didier's football IQ is superior to anything I've seen in Lukaku so far. And his skillset made him a perfect target man. A lot of tricks, flicks, pirouettes, and ability to cross from either wing,..you can go on and on.

Lukaku on the other, has more raw pace (not that Drogba was a slouch). A lot of his game revolves around his pace and power, and of course he is a fox in the box. Lethal with both feet.

 

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

5 hours ago, Clockwork said:

Drogba and Lukaku couldn’t be anymore different. I am sick of this comparison.

I wasn't comparing the two just pointing out lukaku has scored more goals. Wasnt comparing there play style or aerial abilities.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,892]

12 hours ago, Warning_Hazard said:

Heres a question:

What will be required of him for people class a him/the tranfer a success?...

My version of the answer is easier to say but more complicated to assess than a straightforward count of goals and assists. Rom simply needs to make us a better side.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,892]

12 hours ago, BluesMadLad said:

2 years away, that will need time to adjust. Our top scorer last season was jorgi with 7 goals lol, so yeah ATLEAST 15 is a massive upgrade to that.

No, I don't believe that it would represent an upgrade. What counts is a player's contribution. Jorgi's goals are an irrelevance to his place in the team. He earns his spot by doing his positional job. Fail to do that and he's out, do it and he's in even with zero goals. A centre forward's positional functions include many things, goals among them.

Edited August 10, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie

[OhForAGreavsie 5,892]

9 hours ago, BluesMadLad said:

u can't blame lukaku for his price. 

Agreed of course. Let's hope there won't be any blame to be shared out.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,892]

9 hours ago, BluesMadLad said:

100m is the new norm its nothing special

Football has GOT to get a grip.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,892]

9 hours ago, BluesMadLad said:

Did u rate Drogba?

Because Drogba played 254 games and scored 104 goals in the PL

Lukaku played 252 games and scored 114 goals. And he played for West brom at one point.

No doubt Drogba was awesome, am not saying that but give this lad some credit atleast he's no where near as bad as ppl make out.

Take out The Drog's 29 goals in 32 games during 2009/10 and his record becomes 75 goals in 222 games. Just under 1 in 3. This underlines the truth about Didier which gets disguised in our memories by his habit of performing in the big games and his penchant for the spectacular. This truth is that he had notable technical shortcomings of his own. As I regularly admit, when I watched DD at Marseilles I was against signing him. In fact I did a post saying that his touch was hit and miss, his control on the run can be clumsy and he likes a dive.

What I did not see at Marseilles was Didier's character and his character was one of, if not absolutely, his major contribution to the team. There were days when, even with JT & SFL in the side, Didier was the true leader on the pitch. Cast your minds back to the number of times the lads were in a huddle and DD was the one doing that talking. His personality is how The Drog compensated for his technical issues. This personality is the only thing which stops me being certain that we would have won more had we signed a technically better player instead of DD. Even so I do believe that. I can't be certain of it but I do believe it.

Anyway, The Drog is history and Rom is the future. It's on people like me to get behind Rom and flood him with positivity in the stadium(s). Most importantly don't get on his back if he has a slow start either in terms of goal involvements or general play. We have nothing to gain, and everything to lose by turning our doubts into a self-fulfilling prophecy. 

Edited August 10, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie