Jase 43,479 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 14 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: 5 games on the trot heβs played a full 90. Now 120 minutes today and still nothing.Β Not exactly. He's started the last 7 games in all competitions and completed the full 90 in 5 of those games (he was taken off at HT for a rest against Chesterfield in one of the other 2 games). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 7 hours ago, laura90 said: Tuchel wasn't here 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 and we still were linked. Wishfull thinking it was Tuchel.Β It's no secret that the club make the call on signings and while I don't know if Tuchel would have been able to persuade them to do otherwise, it's worth noting that Tuchel himself also went along with the Lukaku signing (he mentioned he spoke with Tuchel before joining). So, Tuchel isn't exactly innocent here.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,177 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Lukaku is overweight, sluggish, slow AF (almost no burst speedΒ lately), beyondΒ wuthless on defence/pressing, disinterested, and throws aΒ strop far too often. He never should have been purchased. A right fucking proper Β£180m (fees + 5 years average salary in toto) nightmare. π€¬ Laylabelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Vesper said: Lukaku is overweight, sluggish, slow AF (almost no burst speedΒ lately), beyondΒ wuthless on defence/pressing, disinterested, and throws aΒ strop far too often. He never should have been purchased. A right fucking proper Β£180m (fees + 5 years average salary in toto) nightmare. π€¬ This is what I mean! Why couldn't someone else have brought him and we could he all hahhaah they're really stupid hahahhaha. Except nooo we signed him..for stupid amounts of money..again! And hasn't paid off...again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,177 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: This is what I mean! Why couldn't someone else have brought him and we could he all hahhaah they're really stupid hahahhaha. Except nooo we signed him..for stupid amounts of money..again! And hasn't paid off...again... I will have to someday go back and re-calculate the grand totalsΒ (as some that I was calculating reduced sales for will and have left on frees/vastly reduced (from even my lowball tallies) amounts, plus potential losses on frees for big guns like AC and Rudiger, etc), but we are now damnΒ near approaching 2/3rds to 3/4ers of a BILLION quid tossed away, starting inΒ 2016/2017, in poor buys, bad sales, refused sales, refused buys (where we may pay vast amounts more or will never, near to medium termΒ get the players in and thus have to settle), and cocked upΒ contractual management. Serious amounts of shit-away dosh. Combine that with monies lost due to Covid, and the numbers are coming up on 1 billion pounds sterling. PLUS no new stadium, and thus at least Β£50-75 million lost per anumΒ in future forward revenue projections, not to mention the loss of physical plant-enabled pulling power in the transfer market that comes along with us being the only top 25 or so club in Europe with either no new (or vastly expanded/renovated) stadium either already being used or coming online inΒ the near to medium term future. And yet no heads have rolled. Edited February 6, 2022 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Emile Heskey reincarnated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,177 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Emile Heskey reincarnated September 1, 2001, 10 days before the world changed, we put the old bovver boots to the Germans in MΓΌnchen, with Heskey scoring the lastΒ of our 5 goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Vesper said: September 1, 2001, 10 days before the world changed, we put the old bovver boots to the Germans in MΓΌnchen, with Heskey scoring the lastΒ of our 5 goals Remember the media going apeshit about that -like England had won a warΒ π At least we got Ballack five years laterΒ Β π Β Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 34 minutes ago, Vesper said: September 1, 2001, 10 days before the world changed, we put the old bovver boots to the Germans in MΓΌnchen, with Heskey scoring the lastΒ of our 5 goals Not hard considering Germany only have 2 world class players in Kahn and Ballack at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,177 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Not hard considering Germany only have 2 world class players in Kahn and Ballack at that time. Germany with Ballack (andΒ do not forget Miroslav Klose)Β may have wellΒ won the WC 10 months later if Ballack had not been suspended by that ridiculousΒ yellowΒ card rule (now changed, partly because of that) after a professional foul in theΒ semi-final. Losing Ballack fucked up pretty much everything about their shape and flow v Brasil. Β Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Vesper said: Germany with Ballack (andΒ do not forget Miroslav Klose)Β may have wellΒ won the WC 10 months later if Ballack had not been suspended by that ridiculousΒ yellowΒ card rule (now changed, partly because of that) after a professional foul in theΒ semi-final. Losing Ballack fucked up pretty much everything about their shape and flow v Brasil. Β Maybe although that Brazil team was still far superior than Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,177 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Maybe although that Brazil team was still far superior than Germany. yes, Brasil was just loaded that year 22Β Β Β GKΒ Β Β RogΓ©rio CeniΒ Β Β 22 January 1973 (aged 29)Β Β Β 12Β Β Β Brazil SΓ£o Paulo 1Β Β Β GKΒ Β Β MarcosΒ Β Β 4 August 1973 (aged 28)Β Β Β 15Β Β Β Brazil Palmeiras 12Β Β Β GKΒ Β Β DidaΒ Β Β 7 October 1973 (aged 28)Β Β Β 49Β Β Β Brazil Corinthians 2Β Β Β DFΒ Β Β Cafu (c)Β Β Β 7 June 1970 (aged 31)Β Β Β 103Β Β Β Italy Roma 6Β Β Β DFΒ Β Β Roberto CarlosΒ Β Β 10 April 1973 (aged 29)Β Β Β 84Β Β Β Spain Real Madrid 16Β Β Β DFΒ Β Β JΓΊniorΒ Β Β 20 June 1973 (aged 28)Β Β Β 12Β Β Β Italy Parma 13Β Β Β DFΒ Β Β Juliano BellettiΒ Β Β 20 June 1976 (aged 25)Β Β Β 10Β Β Β Brazil SΓ£o Paulo 5Β Β Β DFΒ Β Β EdmΓlsonΒ Β Β 10 July 1976 (aged 25)Β Β Β 12Β Β Β France Lyon 4Β Β Β DFΒ Β Β Roque JΓΊniorΒ Β Β 31 August 1976 (aged 25)Β Β Β 17Β Β Β Italy Milan 3Β Β Β DFΒ Β Β LΓΊcioΒ Β Β 8 May 1978 (aged 24)Β Β Β 15Β Β Β Germany Bayer Leverkusen 14Β Β Β DFΒ Β Β Γnderson PolgaΒ Β Β 9 February 1979 (aged 23)Β Β Β 5Β Β Β Brazil GrΓͺmio 10Β Β Β MFΒ Β Β RivaldoΒ Β Β 19 April 1972 (aged 30)Β Β Β 58Β Β Β Spain Barcelona 19Β Β Β MFΒ Β Β JuninhoΒ Β Β 22 February 1973 (aged 29)Β Β Β 43Β Β Β England Middlesbrough 18Β Β Β MFΒ Β Β VampetaΒ Β Β 13 March 1974 (aged 28)Β Β Β 36Β Β Β Brazil Corinthians 7Β Β Β MFΒ Β Β RicardinhoΒ Β Β 23 May 1976 (aged 26)Β Β Β 3Β Β Β Brazil Corinthians 8Β Β Β MFΒ Β Β Gilberto SilvaΒ Β Β 7 October 1976 (aged 25)Β Β Β 6Β Β Β Brazil AtlΓ©tico Mineiro 15Β Β Β MFΒ Β Β KlΓ©bersonΒ Β Β 19 June 1979 (aged 22)Β Β Β 5Β Β Β Brazil AtlΓ©tico Paranaense 11Β Β Β MFΒ Β Β RonaldinhoΒ Β Β 21 March 1980 (aged 22)Β Β Β 24Β Β Β France Paris Saint-Germain 23Β Β Β MFΒ Β Β KakÑ   22 April 1982 (aged 20)Β Β Β 2Β Β Β Brazil SΓ£o Paulo 20Β Β Β FWΒ Β Β EdΓlsonΒ Β Β 17 September 1971 (aged 30)Β Β Β 17Β Β Β Brazil Cruzeiro 21Β Β Β FWΒ Β Β LuizΓ£oΒ Β Β 14 November 1975 (aged 26)Β Β Β 8Β Β Β Brazil GrΓͺmio 9Β Β Β FWΒ Β Β RonaldoΒ Β Β 22 September 1976 (aged 25)Β Β Β 56Β Β Β Italy Inter Milan 17Β Β Β FWΒ Β Β DenΓlsonΒ Β Β 24 August 1977 (aged 24)Β Β Β 53Β Β Β Spain Real Betis Β Edited February 6, 2022 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) On 05/02/2022 at 21:28, milka said: meanwhile Β π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£ One duel and no dribbles won against Plymouth?Β Where are all those people that thought he was good/been transformed in Italy?Β Absolute donkey of a player.Β Edited February 7, 2022 by King Kante Hermione 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Surely the board aren't this daft and will try to offload him in the summer? Surely? He was pocketed by Plymouth?!!? Christ even if Atletico or PSG somehow come to our rescue, you'd think this would be another hard lesson learned from the board to not pursue targets merely on name alone. But it won't.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Who would buy him for anywhere near the price we paid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: Surely the board aren't this daft and will try to offload him in the summer? Surely? He was pocketed by Plymouth?!!? Christ even if Atletico or PSG somehow come to our rescue, you'd think this would be another hard lesson learned from the board to not pursue targets merely on name alone. But it won't.Β Looking back at it signing him in 2011 made no sense either. We were looking at nimble technical players and until Jose returned trying to build a team around those ideals, even the one's that didn't work (Marin) made sense in theory. He would have looked just as out of place in a team involving Hazard, KDB, Oscar, Mata and young Azpi as he does in this one, if not more so. Edited February 7, 2022 by Tomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Lukaku for Felix... Atletico please.... Hermione 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 5 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Who would buy him for anywhere near the price we paid? Exactly - but we do have history with these kind of strikers -Sutton, Sheva, Fernando the Wonder Horse.... Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,177 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 βHe wants to goβ: BBC pundit thinks 28-year-old Chelsea player will push for a transfer in the summer https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/pundit-view/he-wants-to-go-bbc-pundit-thinks-28-year-old-Chelsea-player-will-push-for-a-transfer-in-the-summer/ Nigel Reo-Coker foresaw a change of scenery away from Chelsea for Romelu Lukaku once the campaign concludes. Speaking on theΒ BBCΒ Football Daily podcast, the former Aston Villa midfielder suggested that Lukaku will potentially look to leave in the summer. Up until just over a month ago, this prediction wouldβve seemed ridiculous. Although the striker had struggled in front of goal, coupled with a lengthy absence through injury, the idea of him calling time early on his club-record return to Stamford Bridge simply didnβt enter anyoneβs thinking. However, this all immediately changed after the 28-year-oldβs interview with Sky Italia came to the surface. In the conversation, which was recorded and published in December, Lukaku seemed to hit out at Thomas Tuchelβs tactics and hinted and wanting to re-join Inter Milan. Obviously, the Belgian was struck down by a wave of criticism from all corners of the profession. Tuchel dropped the centre-forward for Chelseaβs crucial Premier League against Liverpool. Lukaku then issued a public video apology to supporters of the Champions League holders, yet the damage had already been done. Lukaku looks like a different man Since these damming statements came to light, he has only scored once across all competitions, at home to Chesterfield in the FA Cup. Something is still not rightΒ in the player who was dubbed the missing piece in Tuchelβs league title-challenging puzzle. Β βItβs never going to be the same. We are never going to know whatβs happened, unless you are in that room with Tuchel and Lukaku at the training ground,β said Reo-Coker. βThat relationship canβt be mended. I think, for me, he wants to go and itβs difficult because itβs going to reflect on his football. βHe already believes the team donβt play to his strengths. So, itβs a difficult one. You can already see that he hasnβt really been the same. βWe are not seeing the same Lukaku who was literally destroying, manhandling Serie A players for Inter Milan. βFor me, thatβs more of a mental thing and thatβs going to be a tough thing where Chelsea are going to have to revaluate everything at the end of the season.β Who fires first? Now the drama has unfolded and sort of settled, seeing Lukaku walk away from the project at the end of the season wouldnβt be that much of a surprise. Especially if he did move back to Inter, the team that helped him fall in love with football again. Selling the expensiveΒ recruit for anything lessΒ than the original Β£97.5m (Sky Sports)Β fee will not be in Roman Abramovichβs remit. However, reimbursing Lukakuβs transfer cost is highly unlikely, therefore one of the parties must budge on their standpoints. Chelsea as an organisation usually win this in-house battle. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,177 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Alabama said: Lukaku for Felix... Atletico please.... Felix would get bullied at CF in the EPL, he is not good at hold-up play the only players on AM who interest me are Jan OblakΒ Β (is having an off year so far, and is so not the worth Β£107m release claise) Marcos LlorenteΒ Β (we do not need him, and he is also having an off year) JosΓ© MarΓa GimΓ©nezΒ (injuries have always worried me, and his play was never the same after Godin left)Β Rodrigo de Paul (see Llorente, minus the off year) Renan LodiΒ Β (as a backup LB) Edited February 7, 2022 by Vesper Alabama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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