Cosmin 2,484 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Not really. That is just YOUR biased opinion. See me, Mediator, Weckerz, Hamilton, Tiwaz, .... going on about him?Youd better stop with your 'belgium guys' whining really. Its boring.He didn't say that the Belgians are defending him. He said that most of those defending him are Belgians. There's a difference. Fernando and chillerz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD3D 1,038 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Aren't you a bit naive to completely believe Mourinho's statements?Mourinho is under pressure to justify the transfer of a homegrown player that has clearly shown potential to get a shot at Chelsea. Mourinho clearly had doubts about Lukaku's abilities. However, if he stated that clearly in public and Lukaku proved him wrong in the near future. This would come back to bite him and would be a stick for the press to beat him with.By stating that Lukaku demanded a starting spot and that he can't promise that he gave Chelsea fans a reason for the transfer and covers himself for the future. It's a tactic you see times and times again with managers.The more plausible truth isn't that Lukaku demanded the nr1 spot as stated by Mourinho, but a significant role in the coming season and plenty of minutes and Mourinho answering he would have to compete with Drogba and Torres for that as Costa would be his main striker. A doubtful future for Lukaku who would have remembered his first season here in the stands while reminding himself of the great season he had at Everton.Serious question, are you retarded? Why would you come up with such a sophisticated conspiracy theory about Mourinho wanting to get rid of Lukaku, when EVERYTHING about Lukaku's behavior (e.g. his provocative goal celebrations at Everton) and comments to the press, show that Mourinho is telling the truth about his arrogant attitude?In fact, very FEW people in this forum were surprised to hear his explanation about Lukaku's sale. Most of us had already figured it out beforehand. Just read through the old pages of this thread and you'll see. Moros and iseah100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 He didn't say that the Belgians are defending him. He said that most of those defending him are Belgians. There's a difference. Also not true. Dont try to spin it mate. Or Stats, Didierforever , .... and others have changed nationality.Its actually ONE belgian. Talk about 'mostly' lol. Belgiannutt, The Skipper and Ainsley Harriott 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Serious question, are you retarded?Let's not go down this route please. HD3D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Serious question, are you retarded? Why would you come up with such a sophisticated conspiracy theory about Mourinho wanting to get rid of Lukaku, when EVERYTHING about Lukaku's behavior (e.g. his provocative goal celebrations at Everton) and comments to the press, show that Mourinho is telling the truth about his arrogant attitude?In fact, very FEW people in this forum were surprised to hear his explanation about Lukaku's sale. Most of us had already figured it out beforehand. Just read through the old pages of this thread and you'll see.Let's not forget his douche bag attitude towards his Belgium manager after he sub him. Despicable attitude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Also not true. Dont try to spin it mate. Or Stats, Didierforever and others have changed nationality.You might be right, I didn't keep an evidence regarding the nationality of people, but I saw a lot of contrary discussions in which Belgian members of the forum were defending him. To conclude about Lukaku, I think that we were right to sell him. No matter how well he does afterwards, no matter if he gets to win the World Cup, UCL and EPL, we were right. At this time, it was the right call. That's what I've been thinking for weeks, already. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yeah pretty much that, is mostly the Belgium guys defending him. So I pay them no mind, their opinion is too biased. Lukaku is a douche bag, and I could care less how he's career pan out now. You do realize what you just said is also extremely biased, right ? I mean you just admitted to ignoring people's opinion because of their nationality.I could even call that rascist but since there's already enough drama in this topic i'll just leave it at biased. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yes, of course, because all the other players in the Belgian top flight are disabled leprachauns! Are they??? Wow. Must get some great tv ratings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I have nothing against Lukaku. I hope he does well (except vs us) and i think he will. Another case of younger players finding it very hard to get a chance to show what they can do with us. The attitude problem stuff is something i don't really know about, but he seems like a decent bloke.I would have loved for him to stay and for us to have a 3 of him, Costa and Drogba, but Fernando is in a contract that no one will buy out because of his high wage etc.And to clarify what i said earlier. I purely meant that because he was bigger and stronger than the average at say the age of 16 enabled him to play at a level very few 16 year olds could. His stats are still impressive nonetheless. ParNolio7 and Las7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Its actually ONE belgian. Talk about 'mostly' lol. And that's supposed to be me?Told you guys about 1.000.000 times that1. I'm no Lukaku fan either and that I just think that he deserves more respect for his incredible EPL stats at such a ridiculous young age.2. His mentality can't be that awful because of 1. As no player with a "stinking attitude" can reach EPL level.So stop trying to turn this into some Belgian thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 And that's supposed to be me?Told you guys about 1.000.000 times that1. I'm no Lukaku fan either and that I just think that he deserves more respect for his incredible EPL stats at such a ridiculous young age.2. His mentality can't be that awful because of 1. As no player with a "stinking attitude" can reach EPL level.So stop trying to turn this into some Belgian thing.You can't ask for a Chelsea fan to give respect to a player who isn't his. Okay some might will, but on average most people will not care because he isn't ours. If Lukaku had stayed, I bet you everything would have been forgotten and people love the guy. Look at how Fabregas was hated here by many. Now that he's with us we support him. This is why I said it must be a Belgium thing defending him. But I guess I was wrong. It's just YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 To be honest, the most important player we convinced to come back from loan was Courtois, not Lukaku. Personally, I am absolutely delighted he's part of the squad and can't wait to see him in action.Lukaku? Well, I think everyone knew where he was going as soon as he said his little 'performing for a new club' piece before the World Cup. He believed his own hype and performed waaaaay below average (putting it nicely) in probably the best footballing tournament in the world. Maybe it gave him a wake-up call? Who knows. Luckily for him someone still wanted him, though not the CL club he had in mind but a club more akin to his actual level and not the imaginary level he had in his head.I'll say no more on him, because I seriously do not believe in giving so much debate to a player who contributed nothing towards the history of this club. I'll thank him for the fat fee we got for him though, that was nice. oldportblue and iseah100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Dude, you were wrong. Deal with it. What a mature reply!!! But what can one expect from the likes.I said it before, if lukaku STILL thought that he should be first choice then he should be sold. I just dint think he would be idiotic enough to hope for a firat striker role with the likes of costa being bought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Why are people so butthurt,great transfer for CFC, Everton and Lukaku.I just don't think it's very fair to blame young players like Sturridge or Lukaku for not being happy about bench roles with managers who obviously don't rate them.Jose had Torres ahead of him in the pecking order last season - that's pretty much like telling him to the face "I think you're shite". Young players and specially strikers need great confidence to become great, that's why a manager needs to develop a great relationship with them and have his arm around their shoulder. Play them out of position that's alright but explain why you are doing it, bring them on as a substitute but make them feel like they are part of your plans and will have a larger role. This is something we have struggled with enormously - unless we buy a finished product or invest heavily most youth players never develop while here. burrogol, zolayes and polleforever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Why are people so butthurt,great transfer for CFC, Everton and Lukaku.I just don't think it's very fair to blame young players like Sturridge or Lukaku for not being happy about bench roles with managers who obviously don't rate them.Jose had Torres ahead of him in the pecking order last season - that's pretty much like telling him to the face "I think you're shite". Young players and specially strikers need great confidence to become great, that's why a manager needs to develop a great relationship with them and have his arm around their shoulder. Play them out of position that's alright but explain why you are doing it, bring them on as a substitute but make them feel like they are part of your plans and will have a larger role. This is something we have struggled with enormously - unless we buy a finished product or invest heavily most youth players never develop while here. how would you know that? he never played a game for us last season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 how would you know that? he never played a game for us last season...Players who have watched Torres from the bench over an year like Sturridge; Lukaku are qualified to know his capabilities. If I was in their place and any manager told me Torres is ahead of me in the pecking order - I'd ask why the manager is insulting me.There is no excuse for Torres getting games in a Chelsea shirt he has been shite longer than he has been class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I personally want lukaku to stay because he is a HG but we get a damn good amount of money for him so I am happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 31, 2014 If he scores vs us some of the most cringeworthy things will be said in this thread I can see it now. bababoom, Ledg, The only place to be and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 And Stay Out!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Jose had Torres ahead of him in the pecking order last season - that's pretty much like telling him to the face "I think you're shite". That's based on a sample sizing of 4 games isn't it? He got more minutes than Azpi in that time.Young players and specially strikers need great confidence to become great, that's why a manager needs to develop a great relationship with them and have his arm around their shoulder. Play them out of position that's alright but explain why you are doing it, bring them on as a substitute but make them feel like they are part of your plans and will have a larger role. This is something we have struggled with enormously - unless we buy a finished product or invest heavily most youth players never develop while here. Lukaku got that. He quit after 4 matches, 3 of which he played in. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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