English Freak 456 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Apparently, Guillem Balague suggested on Sky Sports that we have offered 30m and Courtois for Falcao.Yeh Balague also stated on Sky Sports that Barcelona had a deal in place to sign Neymar for 30 million after the 2014 World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Well, considering Balague is nearly always wrong, i'm not worried. English Freak and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Apparently, Guillem Balague suggested on Sky Sports that we have offered 30m and Courtois for Falcao.I used to respect Balague but he is becoming a TWAT Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Apparently, Guillem Balague suggested on Sky Sports that we have offered 30m and Courtois for Falcao.Sounds like bad business. 30m AND Thibaout, we are geting ripped off. Though, that's just daily Chelsea business as we've seen in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I'll vomit if Coutrois is sold. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Gino 377 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 If Cech continues at a top level for another four years, Falcao is winning Golden Boots and Chelsea are collecting trophies, would anyone still be sick of the thought the day Thibaut was sold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 If Cech continues at a top level for another four years, Falcao is winning Golden Boots and Chelsea are collecting trophies, would anyone still be sick of the thought the day Thibaut was sold? Four year vesus 15. I don't like Falcao at all. Would prefer Cavani over him everytime. Falcao is so one dimensional like Ruud Van Nistelrooy. Atletico Madrid are exactly the same as Manchester United were 10 years ago. They relied on their big striker (Falcao/Van Nistelrooy) waaaay too mcuh. I would prefer a dynamic striker like Henry, Aguero, Van Persie over a fox in the box. Mufassir08, The Mak and Stingray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 This rumor is completely ridiculous to me. Why would Athletico, who have huge financial issues, pay 20m (or shave 20m off the Falcao deal) for keeper when they have an excellent goalie in Sergio Asenjo on the bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Gino 377 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 This rumor is completely ridiculous to me. Why would Athletico, who have huge financial issues, pay 20m (or shave 20m off the Falcao deal) for keeper when they have an excellent goalie in Sergio Asenjo on the bench? It does sound odd, but so was the pursuit of Jack Butland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Four year vesus 15. I don't like Falcao at all. Would prefer Cavani over him everytime. Falcao is so one dimensional like Ruud Van Nistelrooy. Atletico Madrid are exactly the same as Manchester United were 10 years ago. They relied on their big striker (Falcao/Van Nistelrooy) waaaay too mcuh. I would prefer a dynamic striker like Henry, Aguero, Van Persie over a fox in the box.I completely agree here. This is a long term versus short term strategy. Courtois - besides being an awesome belgian :-) - is a future asset to us, where as I am not sure about Falcao. Sorry to go into Falcao/Cavani here but it is relevant for Courtois. I am glad Spike said it out loud, because I thinkit is true. Ok, Falcao got a LOT of talk. He scored a lot of goals and is in his prime now (28 yesterday I think which means he has a limited expiry date on him compared to others). I still think it would be Rong to sign him. It has Torres 2.0 written over it a bit. I do not mean he will have a drop in skills like Torres obviously had (injuries?), but when you look at his stats you see him mixing good games with games in which he is largely absent (Granada, Real, Celta de Vigo, Levante, ... ) Sound familiar, especially because besides Real the teams aren't all hat super great? His defensive contribution might tilt the - non existing - balance in our team even further off (funky pivot, Mata and Hazard that aren't exactly kings of defensive work). And, you can have all this for the price of a billion gazillion bucks. Hmmmm. How is that sensible? I prefer a good, robust policy on the long term. However, we do need a top striker now. There is Ba, Lukaku and a big hole to be filled next year. I would indeed, as Spike, prefer Cavani. He scores pretty much on an equally regular basis then Falcao, but he contributes much more in terms of link up and defensive work. Also, his consistency is much higher and this is what we are going to need - something good and dependable - aged 25! So the best is yet to come. Investment wise this would be much more rational. Just compare the performances the last games to compare reliability/ consistency: Falcao: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/18701/Cavani: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/24328/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Selling Courtois wouldn't make sense when most of our recent buys have been players for the future and Courtois fits into the bill. And furthermore, does the club know that there are other strikers out there apart from Falcao?! The obsession with him is just plain silly! This rumor is completely ridiculous to me. Why would Athletico, who have huge financial issues, pay 20m (or shave 20m off the Falcao deal) for keeper when they have an excellent goalie in Sergio Asenjo on the bench? If Asenjo really is an excellent GK, Atletico probably wouldn't have been so persistent in keeping him previously. And wasn't he dropped for favor of De Gea previously as well?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 It does sound odd, but so was the pursuit of Jack Butland. Signing Butland would have made perfect sense, but he didn't want to sit on the bench which is perfectly understandable.As for this whole selling Courtois business, it would be a very risky thing to do. Yes we would have made a massive profit on him in the space of a couple of years but the possibility of transitioning from one solid keeper to another is something very few teams manage and it would've saved us a potentially massive headache somewhere down the road.But it does once again bring up this question of which keeper we go with. There is a very compelling argument for us to cash in on Cech in the next 18 months and go with Courtois. However I am worried that if we do get Mourinho that he will stick with what he's familiar with and go with Cech. That leaves Courtois in the wind, although I'm sure Jose is familiar with him to.This is one of the nicer problems we have at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 If Asenjo really is an excellent GK, Atletico probably wouldn't have been so persistent in keeping him previously. And wasn't he dropped for favor of De Gea previously as well??Courtois is slightly better and De Gea was excellent at Athletico. I've watched Sergio many times, he is very good and still very young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Courtois is slightly better and De Gea was excellent at Athletico. I've watched Sergio many times, he is very good and still very young. Seems like Atletico aren't too keen on him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Seems like Atletico aren't too keen on him...Disagree. If they don't want him they could have sold him and got a very good price. He was very much wanted in Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Tbh whenever i have watched falcao in action live he certainly has not been that impressive.A lot of his goals are penalties,tap ins etc.I would rather sign lewandowski for 20m then falcao for 48m. Miguelito, zolayes, Stingray and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito 459 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Tbh whenever i have watched falcao in action live he certainly has not been that impressive.A lot of his goals are penalties,tap ins etc.I would rather sign lewandowski for 20m then falcao for 48m.I'd rather sign lewandowski for 48m then falcao for 48m. Really not a fan of falcao. As great as he is, I don't want a striker like himBut with this being the courtois thread, it would be genuinely stupid to let him go. He can be a cornerstone in our team for the next 10-15 years if we play this out right Stingray and KamikazeBlue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Atletico are ahead of Real more down to Courtois keeping them in games rather than Falcao finishing off games. Even to them Courtois seems to be the bigger asset. Doesn't that say a lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Cech has more experience and does somethings better than Courtois but Courtois's ceiling is higher. He's the best Belgian goalkeeping talent I've seen and I got to see both Pfaff (FIFA 100, Goalkeeper of the Year in 1987, 1986 world cup team) and Predu'homme (Goalkeeper of he year in 1994) in their primes. This guy has the potential to be the best in the world year in and year out. He's already top 10 in the world at 21. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Why don't we just offer 30 million and Torres, surely they will accept 30,000,500 no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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