Marko Marin

[yuvala 2,167]

Oh Marin .. German Messi they said.

Although its sad TBH, he really looked like he had actual talent. Shame..

[Styles 9,790]

I believe that your opinion and Styles' opinion on the matter, doesn't nulify eachother.

Let me explain. I am agree with your previous post — one of our biggest problem is the fact that our starting XI lacks quality (no striker and no players suited to play in the pivot). Even tough, Styles is also right. It's not necessarily because of Marin, that's rather because we have players such as Marin on the bench. Just as our starting XI, our bench cruelly lacks quality ; sometimes it looks so poor that you want to cry. And it appears that Marin embodies this problem.

As you say, Marin is the eighth option for the attacking midfielder spot ; behin Benayoun and Ramires, but also to a lesser extend behind Bertrand. Even though, on the paper, Marin should be (with Moses) the "squad player" for this spot. However, he is so poor that a RB, a B2B and a unwanted player are getting picked-up ahead of him. This is a genuine problem - it just shows how much our bench is weak.

You are saying that it's our managers' fault if the likes of Hazard and Mata are not rested because they have pressure to win trophies. Though, is this fact the origin, or the outcome ? This season, with that poor squad, we reached the FA Cup semi, the Cup League semi, the Europa League and we will likely finish in the top four. In my honest opinion, it does mean that with a proper squad depth, we should not have such a problem regarding players playing time.

In my view, it worked this way : the manager had pressure to win trophies ; but our squad is not good enough ; so the manager was forced to overuse our key players. Had Marin been as good as Moses, then Mata probably wouldn't have had to play 10 domestical cups games and to play against poor team. Had we had a Moses2.0 instead of Marin, then Mata and Hazard would have probably played 10 less games each one.

Finally, I do not think that your example regarding ManU, Buttner and Wooten is a good one. You can play with one or two poor players in your team — as long as it's not at a key spot, then you won't suffer too much. For instance, Barcelona has an average defense, but against 90% of their opponents they don't don't suffer of it. Why ? Because they put the emphasis on their midfield and on the attacking side of the game. Therefore, because of the big possession, their defenders don't have to do that much, and even if they fail, the attacking players (I mean Messi) make up for it. That's why they can play Adriano as a CB and still win ! That's the same with United. For instance, against us they were able to play with Wooten, because they still had Giggs, Nani, Welbeck and Hernades as their forwards (= they had performing players at their key area, the attack). However, we cannot play Marin because the AMs is our key area — and playing Marin there would mean weakening this area too much. And that's also why we have been able to win with the ladyboy in the side : because the striker in our systeme is marginalized.

The bottom line is that Marin is not at fault because for what he has done, but because of what he has not done. And yes, our bench (and thus the likes of Marin) is one of our biggest problem. It's just simply not good enough. United have Cuntarito and Welbeck to replace Rooney and RvP ; we have Moses, Marin and Bena-fucking-youn to replace Mata and Hazard — that's partly where lies the 17 points gap, in my honest opinion.

100% agreed. Benayoun, who the club has been trying to get rid of for nearly 2 years, is trusted more than Marin. That says it all.

[Jase 43,479]

To think we let go Kalou, froze out Malouda for this guy

Those 2 are frustrating players yes, but they would offer something in the squad and from the bench, especially the Ivorian and they would be fit and healthy most weeks.

A dozen lucky tap ins off the bench doesn't sound too bad a proposition right now, does it?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

[Jype 6,398]

I was there when Marko Marin scored a goal, maybe I should get that printed on a t-shirt.

[Jase 43,479]

Is Marin really injured right now? Have seen him in training with other players in pictures and videos but yet he's hardly ever made it to the matchday squads!

I know he hasn't done too well so far here but for goodness sake, if he's available, Benitez should at least have him on the bench as opposed to flooding it with 3-4 defenders! Marin could come on in games, if needed, and potentially turn a game in our favor.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Think that was Hazard who watches Naruto..

.....I love Eden even more now.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Is Marin really injured right now? Have seen him in training with other players in pictures and videos but yet he's hardly ever made it to the matchday squads!

I know he hasn't done too well so far here but for goodness sake, if he's available, Benitez should at least have him on the bench as opposed to flooding it with 3-4 defenders! Marin could come on in games, if needed, and potentially turn a game in our favor.

The thing is, we don't know the nature of his reoccurring injuries. Only the medical staff do. I've noticed often he would be on the bench for one match, then two days later, without even playing, we'd read that he's unavailable due to injury.

[Jase 43,479]

The thing is, we don't know the nature of his reoccurring injuries. Only the medical staff do. I've noticed often he would be on the bench for one match, then two days later, without even playing, we'd read that he's unavailable due to injury.

Or maybe Benitez just wants his favorite boy Benayoun to be there. He must be like Messi in training...

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Who gives a shit if it's Marin or yossi. Neither are going to be able to do jack shit. I actually rate Yossi higher than marin, at least he has some PL experience and is not a dude my 10 year old cousin could beat up.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Or maybe Benitez just wants his favorite boy Benayoun to be there. He must be like Messi in training...

I actually remember reading somewhere that terry apperently said that benayoun is the best player he has ever seen in training

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

I actually remember reading somewhere that terry apperently said that benayoun is the best player he has ever seen in training

didn't know they trained givng blowjobs to managers

[Ankit 3,176]

I actually remember reading somewhere that terry apperently said that benayoun is the best player he has ever seen in training

How high were you when you read that? And no lying!

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

I actually remember reading somewhere that terry apperently said that benayoun is the best player he has ever seen in training

I'd believe that too. Yossi is a pure testament to where hard work will get you. His abilities are greatly limited, and physically he rarely bring anything special to the table.

I feel he gives his all though. While clearly not being good enough for us, I think he would be a great player for a lower championship or league one side.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

How high were you when you read that? And no lying!

High enough to read terry call benayoun the best player in training ever

[DONI. 1,291]

Marin > Benayoun

Anytime.

[Jase 43,479]

I actually remember reading somewhere that terry apperently said that benayoun is the best player he has ever seen in training

*speechless*...............

I'll just pretend this all never happened..

[DJames 729]

Think that was Hazard who watches Naruto..

It was on Marin's instagram (or twitter) Hazard watching it and Marin approving. Pretty fair to say Marin watches it as well

I want to give Marin a bit more of a chance for some reason. He really has not been given a fair amount of time to prove to us how good (or shit) he really is. He is a bit of a dud with all his injuries and inability to put in a proper shift for us. He use to have a good combination play with Ozil in Bremen hopefully he can get back to that quick with us. I'm willing to give him another half season if he does not improve by then he should be sold.

[lucio 5,418]

lmao