Chelsea Sack Andre Villas-Boas

[chrismada9 1,948]

And the FA Cup

indeed... a double in his first season in charge... better than what Mourinho managed!

[zolayes 14,489]

I find this funny.

Last season over half this forum were slagging Carlo off saying he is past it and fluked the double and that AVB is the man we need to guide us into a new era.

Now under AVB things are not going entirely to plan Carlo is now the messiah.

it is black humour ,,but probably saying that is a racial slur these days.

[Laylabelle 9,535]

And Carlo lasted 2 years...longest had for a while!..

And agree when it clicked it worked bloody well..those 7-1,7-0,8-0 wins...just shame towards the end of the season the meh attitude from the players was back and everything went crap

[francozola 2,040]

With Ancelotti when his teams click they are a joy to watch, Stoke 7-0 was the best ive ever seen us play.

But last season he did let the grass grow under his feet a bit, and why did he name lineups in the press conference? straight away gave managers the upper hand.

I did want him to get this season to turn it around but he didn;t get the chance and whether he would have and whether we would have done better this season then what we are right now well i guess were never know.

Plus his man-management was kinda off especially with the whole Torres hoop-la and the way he made Luiz a scapegoat after the Utd game was infuriating.

[chrismada9 1,948]

he did very well to squeeze one last title winning performance from that squad.

He didn't just 'squeeze' one last title winning performance from that squad though.. he was getting us scoring more than 6 goals a home game for a majority of the end of that winning season... 7-1 against Villa, 7-2 against Sunderland, 7-0 against Stoke, 8-0 against Wigan.... suddenly at the beginning of next season we get back to back 6-0 wins against West Brom and Wigan.... the question is.. how do you go from that, to what we have now??

[Tomo 21,751]

I wonder what would have happened had Hiddink came back and we were in the same position as we are now.

I could just imagine the responses

"Hiddink is the same as Carlo, too stubborn to change things"

"overrated by four good months in the job before, we should have got the young, hungry AVB while we had the chance"

and so on.

[Liquidator 5,176]

once again AVB will get it in the neck for the players not giving a fuck

[zolayes 14,489]

once again AVB will get it in the neck for the players not giving a fuck

true ..you can be sure the players won't be hurting as much as the fans

[Laylabelle 9,535]

I wonder what would have happened had Hiddink came back and we were in the same position as we are now.

I could just imagine the responses

"Hiddink is the same as Carlo, too stubborn to change things"

"overrated by four good months in the job before, we should have got the young, hungry AVB while we had the chance"

and so on.

Defintly! And you gotta wonder what he'd think if was offered chance to be manager 'been back here twice now to replace sacked managers...how long will i last'

[Liquidator 5,176]

How can you put all the blame on the manager so easily?

If you've actually watched the match(s), you'd know who's really at fault the most.

for example:

who gave the ball away for Villa's third goal?

Frank Lampard. Not AVB

[chrismada9 1,948]

once again AVB will get it in the neck for the players not giving a fuck

sadly, I agree with you

[Hd123 5]

Once Carlo was sacked, the mistake was paying 13m + huge wages for a mediocre scout.

If this sort of run continues for another month or two, he's gone.

[osgoodisgod 150]

More than anything or anyone, we miss Wilkins - especially for his knowledge of other teams. Clarke is also a huge miss.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

I honestly can't wait till the summer when nico Alex Malouda probably drogs Nd lamps will all come out and slam avb for his man management. They will all say how it was like under his rule as compared to Carlo and Jose. Especially nico after he was snubbed from some party the squad had and he wasnt invited. I know we all wish we were that fly on the wall being able to get inside that dressing room but we'll definitely get a feel by next year.

[eldo 868]

I find this funny.

Last season over half this forum were slagging Carlo off saying he is past it and fluked the double and that AVB is the man we need to guide us into a new era.

Now under AVB things are not going entirely to plan Carlo is now the messiah.

The messiah is someone else now. When he fails to win every match with this squad he will need to get a sack.

[Hd123 5]

There is no messiah apart from Mourinho, who could take a chunk of shit and turn in into CL spot contenders.

I'd gladly have Hiddink or Carlo atm though, both would do better jobs than AVB but unfortunately we have shot ourselves in the foot and are now stuck with a mediocre scout and a fear of being the laughing stock of the media (again)

Sad that the compo is going to cost another 15m should the axe fall, Roman once again proving that he just cannot make the correct decisions.

[blue out west 27]

I think AVB is a good manager but he has too much pressure from the board and ownership...

Think about it, he was brought in to not just bring the biggest trophies but to also do it iwth the style that is fashionable right now, lots of flair and passing... but we don't have that kind of squad! We have a FANTASTIC squad of super athletes with tremendous mental assets and also strong technique... but they are not the best at playing 1 strict style perfectly whether it is negative or postiive possession style. Our players are all similar in the way that they are best playing direct and aggressive, and adapt to the style of the opponents.The players we have can win 1v1 battles when we can match the tactics, because the strength and speed we have can win most challenges in the first instances. Then once the first battle for the ball is won, we have a shot or pass.. but we arent pass-pass-pass players... its different.

I don't know if that makes any sense but what I'm trying to say is whats needed are practical tactics or our players can't perform, if we continue forcing this barcelona style possession style on the team then we will have to replace at least half of the squad to make it work.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

AVB definitely isn't helping himself. I do not want him sacked, because I feel if he is given time to stamp his own style on the team then we could have some long-term success as a result of our short-term mediocrity. However he needs to start mashing things up during games, because we are becoming a very one-dimensional team with a single style of play that is becoming easy to defend against.

[Henrique 9,133]

I wonder what would have happened had Hiddink came back and we were in the same position as we are now.

I could just imagine the responses

"Hiddink is the same as Carlo, too stubborn to change things"

"overrated by four good months in the job before, we should have got the young, hungry AVB while we had the chance"

and so on.

I dont think its fair to compare Hiddink with AVB. The later is only a small manager with a very small cv in Portugal and in Europa League.

First thing: Hiddink would have bought more players, would have took the best from players like Luiz. Luiz for example is the kind of guy that has a huge potential, but needs one good manager to teach him some things before turning into a world class manager, or a manager to discover a better position for him.

I really dont think any player will learn anything with AVB. Management is more than tactics, you also must improve the team spirit, the players must feel confortably with the coach. Villas Boas was unfair with Alex and Nico, and is too arrogant, which make him looks a schyzophrenic guy, with a big mouth and a poor form.

Besides games against Valência and City, our season is a disaster. I wonder until when this guy will survive.

You are comparing a huge manager with one that nobody really knows what is.

[The Big Drog 1,110]

He didn't just 'squeeze' one last title winning performance from that squad though.. he was getting us scoring more than 6 goals a home game for a majority of the end of that winning season... 7-1 against Villa, 7-2 against Sunderland, 7-0 against Stoke, 8-0 against Wigan.... suddenly at the beginning of next season we get back to back 6-0 wins against West Brom and Wigan.... the question is.. how do you go from that, to what we have now??

I like how you have managed to look only at the positives and have closed your eyes entirely to the negatives. Remember how comprehensively we were beaten by Inter Milan? How about the drubbing against Wigan at the DW? Then in his second season it all went downhill fast, remember that series of games against Man Utd? Horrific.