The Big Drog 1,110 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 btw maybe Gary Neville should consider that defenders who look like they are "being controlled by a 10-year-old playing on his Playstation”. generally don't start for the most successful country in football history, David Luiz does so somebody must see something worthwhile in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 btw maybe Gary Neville should consider that defenders who look like they are "being controlled by a 10-year-old playing on his Playstation”. generally don't start for the most successful country in football history, David Luiz does so somebody must see something worthwhile in him.Don't be silly. Gary Neville knows more than Villas-Boas, Ancelotti, Menez, ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I did criticize AVB in the Arsenal game, but in this game I can't find any real fault with him. Apart from his starting line-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Don't be silly. Gary Neville knows more than Villas-Boas, Ancelotti, Menez, ect.Not only Neville but Redknapp too, much like they have done with Per Mertersacker (before he even played a game in an Arsenal jersey) they have earmarked Luiz as a player to constantly criticise. His performance today didn't warrant criticism, it was generally good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Apart from his starting line-up. And where did he actually make a mistake there?Cech, fine.Ivanovic at RB, fine.Luiz and Terry? Our best CB partnership, fine.Mikel, fine, risk was too big to start Romeu.Ramires, fine.Lampard, In great form, fine.Malouda, Works well with DD and did alright, fine.Drogba. The pressure on Torres would've been to big, and if he had an another bad performances against Liverpool it would shatter what's left of his confidence. So Drogba, fine.Mata, fine.Sure, Meireles should've started, but it was to risky to play him as a DM and he had a tough 2 games with Portugal while Ramires stayed at Cobham.Sturridge? Perhaps, but he didn't do well against Arsenal and Jose Enrique is one of the best LBs in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 And where did he actually make a mistake there?Cech, fine.Ivanovic at RB, fine.Luiz and Terry? Our best CB partnership, fine.Mikel, fine, risk was too big to start Romeu.Ramires, fine.Lampard, In great form, fine.Malouda, Works well with DD and did alright, fine.Drogba. The pressure on Torres would've been to big, and if he had an another bad performances against Liverpool it would shatter what's left of his confidence. So Drogba, fine.Mata, fine.Sure, Meireles should've started, but it was to risky to play him as a DM and he had a tough 2 games with Portugal while Ramires stayed at Cobham.Sturridge? Perhaps, but he didn't do well against Arsenal and Jose Enrique is one of the best LBs in the world.I didn't want Meireles as DM, i wanted him instead of Ramires.My main problem though was the changes up front. One is maybe understandable, but two changes in a big game?? and this 2 players have hardly played well this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,443 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Apart from his starting line-up. The line-up was fine and almost worked actually. Malouda and Drogba came quite close to putting us in front..but once again, as has been the case several times this season, its taken the team an opposition goal (while in other games a red card) to get really fired up...And there are these defensive errors..The high line leaves them exposed yes, but most of the goals have come from situations which you would otherwise consider harmless...like today when Cech takes a goal kick, or when Johnson comes up against JT and Cole all alone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Apart from his starting line-up. I agree I was also shocked to see the starting line up today . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Scolari lost four of his 25 PL games before being fired, AVB has lost four of his 12.Cool story bro!Scolari inherited one of the most talented Chelsea squad ever, they were a penalty away from wining the ultimate prize in europe. This squad is the worst side in the Roman era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Its kinda bad when soon as we hit a bad patch the talk from pundits and other fans is when it the manager gana get the sack.For other clubs that never seems to happen!..But from BBC site anyho..little point there:Dale Wright on Twitter: "Abramovich has only got to look at Man United and Arsenal to see faith in managers pays off. Romeu, McEachran, Lukaku - future stars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Its kinda bad when soon as we hit a bad patch the talk from pundits and other fans is when it the manager gana get the sack.For other clubs that never seems to happen!..But from BBC site anyho..little point there:Dale Wright on Twitter: "Abramovich has only got to look at Man United and Arsenal to see faith in managers pays off. Romeu, McEachran, Lukaku - future stars!That is the fickle world of football , at the end of the day where ever we finish in the league it wont stop my passion for the team , they could be fighting in league one and i would still be as happy for a win. As said before Roman has spoiled us in terms of success over the seasons and when things go bad we just chuck money at the situation to right it , but now with the FFP we need to think of other ways to bring success like a long term manager who will create his own team here.2005/2006 seems so long ago now and i would even go as far out and say the league was easier to win back then , we never had to worry about the likes of City , Spuds and even teams like Newcastle. Times are Changing we need to change with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Some of the threads are just embarrassing on this thread. The fans have gotten used to the owners style of handling the managers. AVB Out? Seriously..Get a grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Some of the threads are just embarrassing on this thread. The fans have gotten used to the owners style of handling the managers.AVB Out? Seriously..Get a gripExactly give the guy a bit of time and a break, plus think logically - how much would sacking him and his staff cost us??....a shit load of money...people need to remember our history, we are not a massive club and have been punching above our weight for a while....I can remember us getting relegated to he 2nd tier of english football when I was a kid....we need patience....even if we dont get top 4 this year, aslong as AVB can get old big earners off our wage bill that now contribute little (Malouda, Anelka, Drogba maybe even Lampard) and buy exciting technically gifted players(Mata, Romeu, Mierlies) at a fair cost i will be happy...Sure he is making mistakes and not everyone will agree with all his decisions but we are heading in the right direction longterm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Dark and Difficult times lies ahead AVB, Soon we must all make the choice between, whats right and the high line ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Exactly give the guy a bit of time and a break, plus think logically - how much would sacking him and his staff cost us??....a shit load of money...people need to remember our history, we are not a massive club and have been punching above our weight for a while....I can remember us getting relegated to he 2nd tier of english football when I was a kid....we need patience....even if we dont get top 4 this year, aslong as AVB can get old big earners off our wage bill that now contribute little (Malouda, Anelka, Drogba maybe even Lampard) and buy exciting technically gifted players(Mata, Romeu, Mierlies) at a fair cost i will be happy...Sure he is making mistakes and not everyone will agree with all his decisions but we are heading in the right direction longtermIts the usual kneejerk reaction we get when we loose a big game , Liverpool are always up for it against us then they will go and loose 3-0 to Swansea. as you say we need to get rid of the big wage earners and build a foundation for the years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Its the usual kneejerk reaction we get when we loose a big game , Liverpool are always up for it against us then they will go and loose 3-0 to Swansea. as you say we need to get rid of the big wage earners and build a foundation for the years to come.For me that is the main thing that needs to be addressed this year - getting our house in order......the contracts that we dished out for alot of our existing squad is disgraceful - Malouda and Anelka on 100k a week longterm deals, off the back of 1 good season...JT and Lamps 150k a week on 4/5 year contracts...if reports are true then Ferraira and Kalou are on more money than Mata!!.We have the second highest wage bill in the league and we definately do not have the second best squad in the league...I also read with dismay and pray that it can't be right that Kalou has been offered 90k a week for a new deal???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 For me that is the main thing that needs to be addressed this year - getting our house in order......the contracts that we dished out for alot of our existing squad is disgraceful - Malouda and Anelka on 100k a week longterm deals, off the back of 1 good season...JT and Lamps 150k a week on 4/5 year contracts...if reports are true then Ferraira and Kalou are on more money than Mata!!.We have the second highest wage bill in the league and we definately do not have the second best squad in the league...I also read with dismay and pray that it can't be right that Kalou has been offered 90k a week for a new deal????If Kalou is offered 90k a week i will have lost faith in our board , im not slating Kalou we all have are opinions on him. but he is not worth 90k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I think we need to go for a squad revamp next season. With AVB at the helm. The players e has brought have been the best performers and the only thing that's stopping us from playing well is the old guard.Out: Drogba, Anelka, Kalou, Malouda although he has said he wishes to see off his contract, Terry although I am in two minds. Mikel needs to go. His habit of not releasing players and taking more than two touches hurts us time and again. Essien is crock. That's 7 players on sale next season. Unless try go and AVB brings in his players we won't be seeing the Porto football. He may bring in: Hulk, Hazard, KDB, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 If Kalou is offered 90k a week i will have lost faith in our board , im not slating Kalou we all have are opinions on him. but he is not worth 90k a week.The ONLY player worth 90k a week in our squad is Mata......it never used to matter as Roman would always write off our debt but now because of the new rules we can't do that anymore...that self righteous prick Platini has ruined our plans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Thats the thing time is needed.And yes Hiddick is avilable and seems a likely option but doesnt always work out.Besides he has had the chance to be our Manager it seems and yet has never taken it..maybe he knows deep down things goes wrong he's out sorta thing who knows!One thing for sure is the squad needs a major revamp,new blood needs to come in and all heck even if its our younger players coming through...they'll no doubt have a willingness to prove to the fans and the Manager and themselves etc that they can be here.Mean Man U didnt add majorly to their squad the last couple of years and were written off but proved doubters wrong sadly....There are defintly difficult times ahead,teams that werent a threat before are a threat now,Spurs etc and City thought take longer but they've come together and are off and away.Scum and Arsenal dodgy starts to the season but now up they're.The usual teams in the Top 4 isnt a definate thing anymore,hard to predict who it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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